Player Discussion Alex Newhook

[Kwikwi]

We over evaluate draft picks. We know what we are getting.
Fit the timeframe.
Dach 2.0
Lets hope

 

[Habidelidoo]

Hughes probably remembered the Mesar selection from last year, and told himself : **** it, you won't have me again this year.

 

[MadMslm]

Hughes probably remembered the Mesar selection from last year, and told himself : **** it, you won't have me again this year.

I guess remembering this one made him forget the Beck and Hutson picks…

 

[jrom]

From Marty's comments it doesn't sound like he's going to be playing bottom 6 minutes.

I wonder where they see him?

Tbh I was kind of hoping to give some of those top6 minutes to Slaf, but it's still early for him.

On Dach’s wing I think (and Monahan with Slaf).

 

[Habitant#1]

Habs don't have their 2024 2nd round pick, so they can't offer sheet anything that requires that pick

 

[Canadienna]

On Dach’s wing I think (and Monahan with Slaf).

Caufield - Suzuki -
Newhook - Dach -
Slaf - Monahan -

Mix and match the RWers?

 

[Treb]

Hughe was Newhook's agent and he's unsigned.

No one would have traded for him if they couldn't sign him.

You got to admit this was a dumb move to over pay this much

If no other team could sign him, why are you scared of him getting offer sheets now?

 

[Vachon23]

Hughe was Newhook's agent and he's unsigned.

No one would have traded for him if they couldn't sign him.

You got to admit this was a dumb move to over pay this much

Should have trade him for Mesar

 

[Naslund]

Caufield - Suzuki -
Newhook - Dach -
Slaf - Monahan -

Mix and match the RWers?

Caufield - Suzuki - Armia
Newhook - Dach - Anderson
Slaf - Monahan - Gallagher

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Steep price to pay, but who cares. Hes a player that I really liked. Unsure what happened in Colorado but it seems like Avs fans gave up on him.

You got your boy!

I wasn't a huge fan pre-draft and I absolutely didn't want him over Caufield but there's clearly something there.

He was highly touted and he's had some pretty impressive D+ years. Plus he's been pretty buried over in Colorado.

It's not like he's been a massive disappointment up until now with no upside.

Price is a bit steep but people are acting like Hughes hasn't been getting pretty stellar value out of a pretty big portion of his trades so far. (You may disagree here but I've been impressed and we can agree to disagree here)

If he has to overpay a bit once, it's not the end of the world. You gotta look at the bigger context of his work so far. Sometimes a GM is going to have to overpay a bit. You're not going to just fleece everyone all the time. Clearly Hughes wanted him and you're likely not to get a prospect with his pedigree with any of those picks.

It's definitely wait and see but people who are like '30 pOiNts?!? wUt aM I MisSiNg???' need to simmer. lol. He has real upside. And that 1st was practically a 2nd anyways. Deep draft or no. Definitely an interesting move and I'm low key pumped.

I wonder if we're trading down. If we trade down and get Reinbacher, I'll be happy. I haven't seen enough Michkov to be pissed if we pass on him.
But it could still be a pretty big mistake. I do like our forward group though and adding Reinbacher to an already pretty impressive D group of young players and prospects could put us in massive good shape.

 

[Mrb1p]

Caufield - Suzuki -
Newhook - Dach -
Slaf - Monahan -

Mix and match the RWers?

Caufield-Suzuki-Dach
Slaf-Newhook-RHP
Farell-Monahan-Anderson
Pezz-Dvorak-evans

Armia/Gallagher as 13th, best case is we flip Dvorak for a pick, Evans slides to C, one of Armia or Gally gets 4th line.

 

[Treb]

Caufield - Suzuki -
Newhook - Dach -
Slaf - Monahan -

Mix and match the RWers?

Caufield - Suzuki - Anderson
Slafkovsky - Dach - Newhook
RHP - Monahan - Ylonen
Pezzetta - Evans - Gallagher/Armia/Hoffman/Gurianov/Dvorak/Pitlick

I expect at least three of the last group to be waived/traded. Four if we keep 8D,

 

[Mrb1p]

You got your boy!

I wasn't a huge fan pre-draft and I absolutely didn't want him over Caufield but there's clearly something there.

He was highly touted and he's had some pretty impressive D+ years. Plus he's been pretty buried over in Colorado.

It's not like he's been a massive disappointment up until now with no upside.

Price is a bit steep but people are acting like Hughes hasn't been getting pretty stellar value out of a pretty big portion of his trades so far. (You may disagree here but I've been impressed and we can agree to disagree here)

If he has to overpay a bit once, it's not the end of the world. You gotta look at the bigger context of his work so far. Sometimes a GM is going to have to overpay a bit. You're not going to just fleece everyone all the time. Clearly Hughes wanted him and you're likely not to get a prospect with his pedigree with any of those picks.

It's definitely wait and see but people who are like '30 pOiNts?!? wUt aM I MisSiNg???' need to simmer. lol. He has real upside. And that 1st was practically a 2nd anyways. Deep draft or no. Definitely an interesting move and I'm low key pumped.

I wonder if we're trading down. If we trade down and get Reinbacher, I'll be happy. I haven't seen enough Michkov to be pissed if we pass on him.
But it could still be a pretty big mistake. I do like our forward group though and adding Reinbacher to an already pretty impressive D group of young players and prospects could put us in massive good shape.

Yeah I dont really mind. Anyway, i think the Habs should try to compete sooner rather than later.

Michkov is 100% worth it and at worst you just admit defeat on Newhook and trade him away/bury him. Its all inconsequential to Michkov whos a true superstar.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Yeah I dont really mind. Anyway, i think the Habs should try to compete sooner rather than later.

Michkov is 100% worth it and at worst you just admit defeat on Newhook and trade him away/bury him. Its all inconsequential to Michkov whos a true superstar.

If we stay healthy, we could surprise next year.

If Philly's the likely target in a trade down, I'd want them to add something pretty significant to those 2 firsts then.

 

[Mrb1p]

If we stay healthy, we could surprise next year.

If Philly's the likely target in a trade down, I'd want them to add something pretty significant to those 2 firsts then.

Im firmly against a trade down because theres nothing were getting that will come close to Matvei imo. Love Reinbacher, wood, benson, leonard but a true superstar is what this team needs. It has plenty of "good" players.

 

[jrom]

Caufield - Suzuki -
Newhook - Dach -
Slaf - Monahan -

Mix and match the RWers?

Caufield - Suzuki - Hoffman (barf)
Newhook - Dach - Anderson
Slaf - Monahan - RHP

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Im firmly against a trade down because theres nothing were getting that will come close to Matvei imo. Love Reinbacher, wood, benson, leonard but a true superstar is what this team needs. It has plenty of "good" players.

Philly's two firsts this year and next year's first?

 

[NotProkofievian]

Im firmly against a trade down because theres nothing were getting that will come close to Matvei imo. Love Reinbacher, wood, benson, leonard but a true superstar is what this team needs. It has plenty of "good" players.

Trade down for Benson, I hear he's basically the same thing as Bedard, there was stats and logic and stuff.

 

[Habaneros]

Yeah..........

I hope what they see, is what pans out..........

On the surface getting a 5ft10 winger for 1st, 2nd, and prospect is dicey.

Lets be honest here,...the pick at 31....the top scoring players drafted at 31
Big GEORGE LARAQUE...153 career pts....and Tyler Pitlick career points 87.
...so what did we give up here? You got to go all the way back yo
1974 to find a player drafted at 31 Dave TIGER Williams with over
500 career pts.

 

[Nicko999]

Are you expecting another injury record?

With normal injuries, we would probably be picking 10th or so this year and we will be better next year.

I am expecting less injuries but shittier goaltending. Apart from Suzuki and Caufield, there isn't anyone else to produce at top 6 level (Dach is not there yet).

Points wise, we should be where we were last year. Maybe even worse if Montembault falls back to earth.

 

[holy]

He looks kinda like a nerd but I dig it. I think having a high IQ team would be a great product, but they definitely need the D to become tough as nails.

Don’t want guys like Xhekaj risking injury fighting going forward though, just go smash around guys and let dummies get instigators or that extra penalty. If the opposition hurt our guys, bait them to the front of the net and bash the shit out of them. Fighting is so old school and clumsy, guys should worry more about hurting the other team out of fear of getting hurt on any play left in the game, not two guys just blowing off steam and punching each others helmets.

Throw in some miraculous goaltending and I’mma watch that.

 

[NotProkofievian]

He looks kinda like a nerd but I dig it. I think having a high IQ team would be a great product, but they definitely need the D to become tough as nails.

Don’t want guys like Xhekaj risking injury fighting going forward though, just go smash around guys and let dummies get instigators or that extra penalty. If the opposition hurt our guys, bait them to the front of the net and bash the shit out of them. Fighting is so old school and clumsy, guys should worry more about hurting the other team out of fear of getting hurt on any play left in the game, not two guys just blowing off steam and punching each others helmets.

Throw in some miraculous goaltending and I’mma watch that.

Newhook isn't a high IQ player IMO. He's a turn n burn grip it and rip it winger. Those are useful though. He has explosive speed in his first few steps, soft hands, and a lighting quick release. For him it's all about finding his niche at the NHL level, he has the tools to succeed.

 

[holy]

Newhook isn't a high IQ player IMO. He's a turn n burn grip it and rip it winger. Those are useful though. He has explosive speed in his first few steps, soft hands, and a lighting quick release. For him it's all about finding his niche at the NHL level, he has the tools to succeed.

I didn’t mean hockey IQ. Our team looks like it would ace a test on any subject.

I’m basing everything I know about him on those few seconds I just seen on a YouTube clip. He looks like he could actually be Dach’s brother too.

 

[NewDef]

Great trade. Clearly a very talented player. We definitely need quality over quantity, and the chances of getting a better player than him at 31 and 37 are very slim. Also, I doubt any of Heineman, Farrell or Roy are more promising prospects than Newhook.

The question is how good will he become. Obviously, playing behind great players is not easy, and being a young player on a mature team competing for the cup can be challenging. Thus, we can expect major improvement just from being in our environment. He will get plenty of minutes playing on the wing with Dach, and probably Anderson.

This is very exciting. HuGo strike again IMO. It's easy to see what they are doing. They are creating a window where a vast majority of our core players will be peaking at the same time.

Heineman might surprise. He's in the class of Beck as his floor feels to be 3rd line at worse. I feel he's 1 AHL year away from the NHL when we'll have a spot for him with Dvorak, Armia (wishful thinking) and Hoffman gone.

I like that they introduce guys progressively, test them and get a good feel of what they have. I expect Heineman to get some games late season to help him grasp what the NHL play level is and thus train accordingly in the summer.

There will be some displaying this year as we won't be able to keep all the recruits.

Ylonen I like but see no more than a gap fill 3rd and not suited for a 4th line. Gone he is at some point. Farell i don't see in the NHL, maybe an AHL star to call up as needed. Roy needs 2 year at least in the AHL but could become Pacioretty level.

That's where Newhook brings value as being ready to play now, likely to breakout under MSL and cost controled. A nice gamble while we hone the next batch and mix and match from what's available.

Really nice work here in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Newhook isn't a high IQ player IMO. He's a turn n burn grip it and rip it winger. Those are useful though. He has explosive speed in his first few steps, soft hands, and a lighting quick release. For him it's all about finding his niche at the NHL level, he has the tools to succeed.

I am not too sure that I agree with that, perhaps allow for him to surprise you this season when presented with more opportunity to showcase his complete skill set.

He was definitely on my radar as a prime candidate to take a significant step in the next year or two even before this trade. He has been buried in a deep lineup and has been used mostly as a checker.This results in scoring chances that are more typical of a counter attack off of the rush as opposed to having better linemates/matchups where he can work with sustained possession in the offensive zone.

This really could be a huge win if he blossoms, if not we have a legitimate top 9 speedster which is also a win when drafting in the area of the picks that we surrendered.