Ya don't say.
He also has a 13.5 goal per season average as a rookie and a sophmore compared to Jonathan Drouin's 8 goals per season average as a veteran and a Hab. Not to mention he won't be making any of those horrendous turnovers JD was known for.
Its surprising how so many here underrate Petry’s skill level even if he has regressed since he was our best defenceman. If Petry is on our roster at the start of the season he will easily be our second best defenceman after Matheson. Perhaps even our best. With Petry, we are a much more dangerous team as he can play in all high leveraged situations and play at a high level. If Petry can recapture any of his past successes, the return Montreal can garner near the trade deadline will be much more than a low second round choice if traded this summer as only a contender would want to acquire a veteran like Petry in the off season.
Agreed. But we didn’t trade for prime Petry. Prime Petry would have cost a lot more than Pitlick and the other ‘assets’ we traded. Nevertheless, the diminished Petry, if he remains on the roster, will be better and more important piece than any other defenceman not named Matheson.
His cap hit already takes care of the age factor.
If you retain 50% is his cap then it's not a problem. Look around the league you have nothing for 2.3 millions when it comes to vet dmen. Stay at home dmen who are not great defensively cost 3 millions. Petry at 2.3 millions if GMs are not interested i'm shocked. I'd almost line up to acquire him at this cap personally specially if my cup window was closing.
I hear what you're saying regarding Petry's age and value, but his point total really isn't that far off from the majority of this time in Montreal (obviously 20-21 being an exceptional year)
| 2014-15 | Montreal Canadiens | NHL | 19 | 3 | 4 | 7 | 10 | -3 | 12 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 4 |
| 2015-16 | Montreal Canadiens | NHL | 51 | 5 | 11 | 16 | 16 | -6 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| 2016-17 | Montreal Canadiens | NHL | 80 | 8 | 20 | 28 | 22 | 3 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 |
| 2017-18 | Montreal Canadiens | NHL | 82 | 12 | 30 | 42 | 28 | -30 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| 2018-19 | Montreal Canadiens | NHL | 82 | 13 | 33 | 46 | 28 | -5 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| 2019-20 | Montreal Canadiens | NHL | 71 | 11 | 29 | 40 | 26 | -10 | 10 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 6 |
| 2020-21 | Montreal Canadiens | NHL | 55 | 12 | 30 | 42 | 20 | 6 | 20 | 0 | 6 | 6 | 6 |
| 2021-22 | Montreal Canadiens | NHL | 68 | 6 | 21 | 27 | 36 | -11 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| 2022-23 | Pittsburgh Penguins | NHL | 61 | 5 | 26 | 31 | 24 | 2 | -- | -- | -- | -- | - |
No need to retain 50% unless the other team is desperate for cap space and pays handsomely for it.
Bro, do you even know that Slafkovsky is a bust?
This. Petry has at least positive value (like a 3rd) at 25% retention. If he can find his game, he could have considerable value at 25% retention.
The thing that is trending downward is games played and that is what has been factored in with the 25% retention IMO.
I think I've said it before we need an all encompassing off season thread where we talk about just about everything. I mean no big deal if we merged most of these threads. The topics that are hot or current would still get discussed the same way and the side-tracking wouldn't matter so much.
Some of that is misleading, only the last two seasons were truly a problem. Others were shortened seasons for COVID. PLus we know our medical staff left a lot to be desired, don't recall what injury he had in his last year here.
Didn't he carry the injury he had suffered in the playoffs on the way t the Cup final? Unfortunately, I can't recall exactly what it had been at the time...
Wasn't the injury the hand injury when he got it stuck in the photographer hole in the glass. And the whites of his eyes were bloodshot from the pressure from fixing the dislocation.
I really hope we can trade him beforehand. Petry is good enough for us to rise in the standings and at mid 30s isn’t part of our future. I’d rather we deal him ahead of time and avoid the injury risk while continuing to rebuild.
A rise in the standings is likely to happen with or without Petry. At this point the question should really be does he help the development of our young players or does he hurt it by taking up the needed ice time.
Sooner or later we have to start to get better and stop fearing that such improvement, however incremental it is, will adversely affect our draft position. I’m old enough to remember when the Canadiens were viewed as the ‘Yankees of Hockey’. How far have we fallen. Call me short sighted in wanting to see Petry play a significant role for us ( how ever short it may be) than having to endure watching opposing forwards skating around marginal players like Kovacevic and Wideman with ease. Its hard to re- establish a winning culture. We have been so irrelevant for so long that some fans are fearful of taking any steps that may effect that change. As if drafting 10th instead of 5th or 6th will impede that improvement.
LOL. Petry has more than 3rd rounder value as is, with NO retention. $4.688M for two years is a fine contract for a 2/3 RHD with size, skating, experience and some scoring. The only issue is the time of year - it is harder to trade a guy with a cap hit of ~$4.7M when teams already have their cap structure in place. You have to find a fit with a team that probably needs to give you back salary, and then you want to make sure what you get back actually helps your team advance.
We need to stop worrying about rising in the standings. Our GOAL now is to rise in the standings as fast as possible while still accumuating young assets and managing the cap by avoiding long-term overpay anchors.
