Confirmed with Link: Alex Newhook: 4 years, 2.9 mill per

[SlafySZN]

so whos the next guy from that draft that Hughes will target

Zegras

 

[Ezpz]

Chris Johnston said to watch the Dallas Stars as a possible team interested in Petry. So with the precedent that has been set by Hughes, we should expect Thomas Harley in return.

I don't see the fit personally. The assets they can move are dmen and we certainly don't need dmen. I suppose Harley is waiver exempt still. Their forwards are old as heck. Not sure they'd part with Bourque. I would expect good value for retaining half on Petry for two years but I also think Hughes would target a prospect rather than a pick at this point as I would expect we won't be counting on picks in 2025 to be contributing to the prime of Nick Suzuki and Cole Caufield.

 

[Andrei79]

Chris Johnston said to watch the Dallas Stars as a possible team interested in Petry. So with the precedent that has been set by Hughes, we should expect Thomas Harley in return.

Don't see how they can make him fit with Seguin and Benn killing their cap.

 

[Montreal Impact FC]

hooky

The bait

 

[BaseballCoach]

I don't see the fit personally. The assets they can move are dmen and we certainly don't need dmen. I suppose Harley is waiver exempt still. Their forwards are old as heck. Not sure they'd part with Bourque. I would expect good value for retaining half on Petry for two years but I also think Hughes would target a prospect rather than a pick at this point as I would expect we won't be counting on picks in 2025 to be contributing to the prime of Nick Suzuki and Cole Caufield.

I don't think Hughes is contemplating retaining for 2 years at this time.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Zegras

I'm hoping that in a few seasons, Suzuki, Dach, Caufield, Guhle, etc... are able to convince a young player like Zegras to join our core. I'm sure Caufield will be on it.

Don't see how they can make him fit with Seguin and Benn killing their cap.

Agreed. And I don't see a 1 year cap dump they could send us to make their cap work. The only way I see us trading Petry is we retain 50% and are willing to take back a 1 year cap dump where the other team gets an upgrade and cap savings. Then we might get a 2nd on top.

That's the type of deal I see happening and I don't see it possible with the Stars. Trading Petry at 50% retention and not taking back salary seems very difficult.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I wouldn't want to use a late 1st and an early 2nd on a perennial 30 point player.

So Newhook will have to take his game to another level for the deal to work put in our favor, imo. I'm looking forward to seeing what he will become.

A 2nd rounder, you’re lucky if it’s a regular NHL player. I’d say Newhook is worth the gamble.

 

[26Mats]

A 2nd rounder, you’re lucky if it’s a regular NHL player. I’d say Newhook is worth the gamble.

I'd rather a 2nd rounder than many NHL players. We were all happy to get a 2nd for Kulak, even though Kulak is a solid bottom pair D that can play up in the lineup if needed.

But, I also am happy with the Newhook gamble. I just wouldn't consider the gamble to pay off if he's a 30 point player - unless he's exceptional defensively.

 

[The Great Weal]

Don't see how they can make him fit with Seguin and Benn killing their cap.

We would be taking back Faksa most likely.

 

[Scriptor]

Nothing is ever accomplished until it has happened, no need to state the obvious... That's kinda, silly, no

Why. Apparently it's a given that Michkov will have superstar stats once at the NHL level, no?

 

[BaseballCoach]

We would be taking back Faksa most likely.

Faksa is a negative value contract with same term as Petry. He had less points than Jeff for 6 straight years, despite being a C vs D.

We already have a Jake Evans much cheaper than Faksa.

If we retain $650k so that each team has the same cap hit, I would want a first rounder or a second plus good prospect in order to give up a 3D for a 10th F.

 

[tooji]

I don't see the fit personally. The assets they can move are dmen and we certainly don't need dmen. I suppose Harley is waiver exempt still. Their forwards are old as heck. Not sure they'd part with Bourque. I would expect good value for retaining half on Petry for two years but I also think Hughes would target a prospect rather than a pick at this point as I would expect we won't be counting on picks in 2025 to be contributing to the prime of Nick Suzuki and Cole Caufield.

pics are also currency for future deals. If we can grab a 2nd for petry (retained), that would be fantastic. Essentially 2 2nds for dumping Pitlick and Hoffman.

 

[The Great Weal]

Faksa is a negative value contract with same term as Petry. He had less points than Jeff for 6 straight years, despite being a C vs D.

We already have a Jake Evans much cheaper than Faksa.

If we retain $650k so that each team has the same cap hit, I would want a first rounder or a second plus good prospect in order to give up a 3D for a 10th F.

The point of getting Faksa is to get a worthwhile return.

 

[BaseballCoach]

The point of getting Faksa is to get a worthwhile return.

OK, but with little or no retention on Petry.

 

[BaseballCoach]

pics are also currency for future deals. If we can grab a 2nd for petry (retained), that would be fantastic. Essentially 2 2nds for dumping Pitlick and Hoffman.

Nah, that would be not fantastic. Take the one second plus the 2/3D and don't give him away.

 

[moody1122]

I'd rather a 2nd rounder than many NHL players. We were all happy to get a 2nd for Kulak, even though Kulak is a solid bottom pair D that can play up in the lineup if needed.

But, I also am happy with the Newhook gamble. I just wouldn't consider the gamble to pay off if he's a 30 point player - unless he's exceptional defensively.

Newhook is replacing Drouin, that is pretty much it,

Drouin had 29 points last season, in only 58 games, so he is a higher PPG than Newhook

And Drouin was playing on a worse team

 

[26Mats]

Newhook is replacing Drouin, that is pretty much it,

Drouin had 29 points last season, in only 58 games, so he is a higher PPG than Newhook

And Drouin was playing on a worse team

But Newhook was only 22. What he did at 22 may have nothing to do with what he's capable of at 23 or beyond. And, hopefully MSL can find the right seat for Newhook to succeed.

I think prime Drouin had more than what we see now. But I think his wrist injury still bothers him.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Newhook is replacing Drouin, that is pretty much it,

Drouin had 29 points last season, in only 58 games, so he is a higher PPG than Newhook

And Drouin was playing on a worse team

Drouin was also horrendous defensively which Newhook wasn't.

Newhook was also playing center, not wing, and was often playing a 3rd line role instead of the top 6 and PP time that Drouin got.

 

[JoelWarlord]

Newhook also had 14 goals to Drouin's 2.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Newhook also had 14 goals to Drouin's 2.

Yeah, he is such much a better goalscorer than Drouin. Newhook have a shot of a 25 goals scorer. Habs fan will be surprised by the offensive talent of Newhook... he is a good scorer, but very good playmaker aswell. 50-60 pts potential is there for sure... a really good top 6 player if he put all things together. MSL will help him like he did with Kirby Dach and Cole Caufield.

 

[26Mats]

Nah, that would be not fantastic. Take the one second plus the 2/3D and don't give him away.

Either would be fantastic.

 

[expy]

Sure it is,

Both are gambles,

We didn't trade a top D prospect for them. The trade was one of the worst of all time, the signing was extra crap on top.

 

[LaP]

Newhook is replacing Drouin, that is pretty much it,
Drouin had 29 points last season, in only 58 games, so he is a higher PPG than Newhook
And Drouin was playing on a worse team

There's no 1:1 correlation between the quality of a team a player plays with and the amount of points said player will do. Playing on a worse team often means more TOI, less defensive responsibility, facing opponents who are not well prepared by the coach, facing opponents who went Chez Paré and went to bed at 2AM the previous night, .... All this can lead to doing more points.

There's many examples of that but i'll use the more famous one. Chris "Pavel Bure" Kontos. A guy who did nothing in his career. Spent his time travelling between the AHL and bottom 6 in the NHL. End up in Tampa Bay an expansion team. Boom 27 goals and 51 points in 66 games. The guy even challenged Pavel Bure and Lemieux for the most goals until the mid season. December 1st Lemieux had 30 goals. Bure 24 and Kontos 22. It was a big story every god **** casual fans were rooting for him. He was the flavors of the month. And that was it for Kontos. Never heard of him again.

There was also Brian Bradley in that TB team. A career 50 to 60 points guy who was propelled as a number 1 center of an expansion team and boom he was a ppg and 40 goals guy all of a sudden ... until TB realized he really was not a number 1 center and replaced him by Chris Gratton and Daymond Langkow. There's many other example of guys who had lot of TOI playing for a bad team and did better than by playing a depth role on a good team. DD is kind of one. While the team was not bad the center line was terrible and he was playing a lot more than he should have.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Newhook is replacing Drouin, that is pretty much it,

Drouin had 29 points last season, in only 58 games, so he is a higher PPG than Newhook

And Drouin was playing on a worse team

Drouin was playing for a worse team but he still had far better linemates and more ice time and PP time than Newhook.

 

[Miller Time]

Why. Apparently it's a given that Michkov will have superstar stats once at the NHL level, no?

Touche

The Nostradamus posters certainly have posted about that ad nauseum