Player Discussion Alex DeBrincat

[saskriders]

What if Matthew signed a 1 year deal and we just signed him next year.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

"Never really been downtown"

Dude has been in the league for 4 seasons in which the Hawks would have come to town and never seen the downtown area. His entire impression of Ottawa is based on highways and suburbs. This is why the downtown arena is so important for bringing in talent.

I mean the Byward Market, Old Hull and our CBD aren't particulatly exciting either.

I want a downtown arena but I doubt it does anything to help attract players.

 

[GCK]

Hypothetically if we could get Matthew T for the Cat 1 for 1 next year
Do you guys do it?
Knowing RW vs LW etc..

No

 

[Micklebot]

I mean the Byward Market, Old Hull and our CBD aren't particulatly exciting either.

I want a downtown arena but I doubt it does anything to help attract players.

All it does is remove a barrier, it doesn't create a draw, but the fewer barriers there are the better.

You've currently got guys like Forsberg making jokes about not even believing Ottawa has a downtown, that's not because our downtown is uniquely bad among other NHL cities, it's because visiting teams fly in, take a 30 min bus ride through Nepean and greenbelt to the hotel, play their game, then bus back to the airport. That's the majority of NHL player's first impression of Ottawa, long bus rides though fields and suburbs.

It's not hard to see how a 15 min bus from the airport to a downtown hotel would drastically improve the visiting team's experience and impression of the city even without a particularly exciting downtown,

 

[Tuna99]

What if Matthew signed a 1 year deal and we just signed him next year.

Not electing for arbitration means he can go into the seasons without a co tract and force Calgary to trade him by the Dec signing deadline or he’ll be a FA. Calgary in deep doodoo.

Am I right to say Matthew I’ll become a FA even if he doesn’t sign a contract, it doesn’t slide another year?

 

[Wondercarrot]

Nice pull lol

 

[Silencio]

"D.J., it's your cousin Marvin....Marvin Smith. You know that 40 goal scorer you were looking for? Well check this out!"

 

[Gil Gunderson]

What if Matthew signed a 1 year deal and we just signed him next year.

We can't afford both him and Debrincat.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Congrats Sens fans. Your team made a amazing trade. I really like your team on paper!

 

[Senscore]

Congrats Sens fans. Your team made a amazing trade. I really like your team on paper!

Been a while since we made a trade that we knew was good right off the bat.


Then we had like 2 others within days.

 

[saskriders]

We can't afford both him and Debrincat.

What if we bridge Pinto and Sanderson and trade Joseph and Formenton (for a Greig-Pinto-Giroux third line.

 

[Nova Stutzlia]

ADB starts at 14:00.
(talks about TS at 27:45)

 

[JD1]

"definitely open to signing a long contract"

I like it!

 

[Sweatred]

"definitely open to signing a long contract"

I like it!

Nice to hear - same thing Duschene said …

 

[Hale The Villain]

"definitely open to signing a long contract"

I like it!

Don't buy into such lip service.

Every player that isn't outright requesting a trade says they want to stay, right up until they leave.

 

[Cosmix]

Nice to hear - same thing Duschene said …

Yes indeed. I won't be really happy with the trade & acquisition until Debrincat signs a longer term contract with the Senators or he is traded for a return similar to what we paid to acquire him. He might turn out to be a short term rental that cost us a high first round pick.

 

[King Karl]

Nice to hear - same thing Duschene said …

For all we know he might've been. Team kind of crumbled unexpectedly during him time here though, so that might've changed things.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I think it's a slam dunk if we meet his demands, just comes down to whether we meet them or not imo.

 

[JD1]

Don't buy into such lip service.

Every player that isn't outright requesting a trade says they want to stay, right up until they leave.

You just can't stomach anything positive about the team can you

I think it's going to be a difficult year for a few guys on here

Yes indeed. I won't be really happy with the trade & acquisition until Debrincat signs a longer term contract with the Senators or he is traded for a return similar to what we paid to acquire him. He might turn out to be a short term rental that cost us a high first round pick.

I'm happy with it regardless of any potential future outcome

It signalled a shift in our operating mode. It brought life to the franchise. Generated excitement.

 

[Hale The Villain]

You just can't stomach anything positive about the team can you

I think it's going to be a difficult year for a few guys on here

You're embarassing yourself.

 

[PlayOn]

@Hale The Villain isn’t wrong, everyone does say that. Matthew Tkachuk said it literally a month before forcing his way out of Calgary.

That said, this team is nowhere near where it was in 2018 and I don’t think it’ll be too difficult to convince DeBrincat to stay provided we pay him.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Whether he had his ticket punched out regardless is up for debate, but who the f would have re-signed with that team in that state? Both Duchene and Stone were faced with giving up almost the entirety of the remainder of their prime on the outside of the playoffs and you can't fault either of them for moving on instead.

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

The nice thing is we get a 24 year old for at least two years, both of them being contract years. We know he is going to give it his all as he will be working for a big pay day.

 

[swiftwin]

Whether he had his ticket punched out regardless is up for debate, but who the f would have re-signed with that team in that state? Both Duchene and Stone were faced with giving up almost the entirety of the remainder of their prime on the outside of the playoffs and you can't fault either of them for moving on instead.

Exactly this.

Yes, players always do lip service like "I want to stay" and " I want to re-sign". But it's really not hard to read between the lines. DeBrincat says multiple times in the interview that he likes the direction of this team, he likes that the core is young and roughly his age, he likes the moves the team made after acquiring him (Giroux, Talbot & Norris contract). It's really not hard to see how different the circumstances are between DeBrincat and Duchene. The players themselves can also see the difference in these circumstances. They aren't stupid.

 

[Hale The Villain]

The nice thing is we get a 24 year old for at least two years, both of them being contract years. We know he is going to give it his all as he will be working for a big pay day.

We shouldn't even consider keeping DeBrincat for the second year of his contract if he isn't willing to re-sign long-term by next off-season.

If he isn't extended by next summer we should trade him for a package of young assets, hopefully as much or more than we dealt to acquire in this major buyer's market, and then try to replace him via UFA or by trade with a top 6 forward that will be here for more than one season.

Walking him to UFA at 25 with a 1 year deal or his 9M qualifying offer to try to extend a contending window by only a single season would be a horrible decision that would blow up in our faces much like what happened to the Isles with Tavares and the Flames with Gaudreau.