Traded Alex DeBrincat (signs 4 years, $7.875M AAV) for Dominik Kubalik, Donovan Sebrango, cond. 2024 or 2025 1st (DET or BOS), 2024 4th

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Honestly he can score all the points he wants in Detroit, I don't think hes the type of player you want in your top 6 as a playoff contender. Maybe that is sour grapes, but I firmly believe every team in this league who is a true Cup contender or favorite has a full top 6 of guys who blend skill with some jam/grit. Debrincat has no jam or grit.
 

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Honestly he can score all the points he wants in Detroit, I don't think hes the type of player you want in your top 6 as a playoff contender. Maybe that is sour grapes, but I firmly believe every team in this league who is a true Cup contender or favorite has a full top 6 of guys who blend skill with some jam/grit. Debrincat has no jam or grit.
DeBrincat has jam and grit. He is a great player, and I don't think Sens fans got to see that great player last season for whatever reason. I wish it had have worked out but it didn't, unfortunately.
 

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How do people feel about the DeBrincat acquisition as it was at the 2022 Draft now?

Do it again.. or Make another deal like for another more affordable player e.g. Kirby Dach or Take the picks

Would make a different deal. Cat was never a fit here, both in style of play and attitude.

Honestly he can score all the points he wants in Detroit, I don't think hes the type of player you want in your top 6 as a playoff contender. Maybe that is sour grapes, but I firmly believe every team in this league who is a true Cup contender or favorite has a full top 6 of guys who blend skill with some jam/grit. Debrincat has no jam or grit.

Agree 100%. Cat will have a few good months. Maybe an outstanding year or two. But something about him just feels like he's the kind of guy who will disappear in the playoffs or whenever things aren't exactly to his liking.
 
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He didn't want to play here at all. He gave little to no effort during his time here.

Dude is a punk, can't wait to boo him.
Disagree, he looked fine mostly, not different than with the Red Wings today and last game – but Larkin is better than either Pinto or Greig.

He was one of the best players against the Red Wings last year as well with 3 points in those two games, heavy checks and forechecking.

Again, doesn't matter because he simply didn't want to be here.
 

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DeBrincat is a 1st liner no doubt, but he was not what was needed. We obviously needed to go after a Top-4 RHD, or well Chychrun more exactly.

But it seems that me and Pierre Dorion never see things the same way
 
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“No, I never asked for a trade,” DeBrincat told The Athletic. “I said I wasn’t going to sign long-term. And they took that as writing on the wall.”

If you are refusing to sign, aren't you saying you won't stay? Isn't that the "writing on the wall"?

Most teams won't play out the last year with a UFA, so it's usually a no brainer that you're getting dealt if you won't sign.
 
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I really don't get all of the vitriol directed his way.

He set a career high in assists while playing with a rookie in Pinto and a admittedly worse Drake Batherson.

He certainly wasn't misplaced on a PP unit that helped to score the 2nd most PP goals in the NHL last season.

If he had wanted to stay, I would have given him another kick at the can, provided the terms weren't ridiculous. I don't think he was pleased with his own contributions and admitted it publicly.

Maybe Tarasenko works out better for us here than ADB would have, but he's also a lot older.

It wasn't a good situation for him here, slotting in behind the Captain in the line-up, and he clearly wanted to pursue other opportunities that would serve him better personally, professionally and ultimately economically.

He never signed up to be here, and what, we're going to pull the old Godfather "your brains or your signature on this contract" move to keep him here?
 
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I really don't get all of the vitriol directed his way.

He set a career high in assists while playing with a rookie in Pinto and a admittedly worse Drake Batherson.

He certainly wasn't misplaced on a PP unit that helped to score the 2nd most PP goals in the NHL last season.

If he had wanted to stay, I would have given him another kick at the can, provided the terms weren't ridiculous.

Maybe Tarasenko works out better for us here than ADB would have, but he's also a lot older.

It wasn't a good situation for him here, slotting in behind the Captain in the line-up, and he clearly wanted to pursue other opportunities that would serve him better personally, professionally and ultimately economically.

He never signed here, and what, we're going to pull the old Godfather "your brains or your signature on this contract" move to keep him here?
I think his comments are overblown. But If he’s an ex player. You boo him. f***’em. He decided to not be here essentially I don’t care what his reasons are this is sports. I expect the boos to rain down.
 
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I think his comments are overblown. If he’s an ex player. You boo him. f***’em. He decided to not be here essentially I don’t care what his reasons are this is sports. I expect the boos to rain down.

People can do what they like, they paid their money for tickets.
 

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I really don't get all of the vitriol directed his way.
If you're referring to my post, I'm just wondering more than caring and I'm ecstatic about the direction it went in hindsight anyways.

Of course ya boo the guy, but that parts just good fun.

The quote just seems a little confusing. If you're a pending UFA and refuse to sign, you're basically asking for a trade, so I don't see much importance in specifically saying I didn't ask for a trade as if the circumstances didn't dictate it. Is he implying he was open to a short term deal, just not long term, or implying that they could have kept him for one more season and let him go.
 

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The quote just seems a little confusing. If you're a pending UFA and refuse to sign, you're basically asking for a trade. Is he implying he was open to a short term deal, just not long term, or implying that they could have kept him for one more season and let him go.

I think he's saying that he would have continued to play for the Senators until his contract expired and then would have pursued his right to sign with another team.

In some ways, at least he was being honest with Ottawa about his intentions as opposed to waiting until the last minute only to leave the team with even less, or nothing.

John Tavares convincing the Islanders that he was going to stay as a negotiation tactic to drive up his salary demands from Toronto is a whole different story.
 

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People can do what they like, they paid their money for tickets.
Right. I actually do believe as a fan base we should rally together to boo. But this is Ottawa. The only guy that ever got it was Yashin because he wanted to get paid and was like going against the establishment at the time. So government town Ottawa jjst absolutely hated that guy
 

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He's saying that he would have continued to play for the Senators until his contract expired and then would have pursued his right to sign with another team.
That's what I would assume. The inclusion of "Long term" made me question if he meant he was open to a short term deal, since that's all he signed in Detroit anyways.
 
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Right. I actually do believe as a fan base we should rally together to boo. But this is Ottawa. The only guy that ever got it was Yashin because he wanted to get paid and was like going against the establishment at the time. So government town Ottawa jjst absolutely hated that guy

One thing I do know from attending games religiously for 20 years now is that Ottawa has a negatively-fuelled fanbase.

They would much rather boo than cheer.

A boring weekday game against Columbus or Carolina or something shakes the sleepy public servants well out of their comas if a player on the other team takes liberties or the ref makes a bad call.

That's when you'll actually see the passion.

Whereas scoring a goal leads to the usual rise and applaud before returning to your Tim's double double.
 

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One thing I do know from attending games religiously for 20 years now is that Ottawa has a negatively-fuelled fanbase.

They would much rather boo than cheer.

A boring weekday game against Columbus or Carolina or something shakes the sleepy public servants well out of their comas if a player takes liberties or the ref makes a bad call.

That's when you'll actually see the passion.

Whereas scoring a goal leads to the usual rise and applaud before returning to your Tim's double double.
Weekday game. Yeah wakes up all 8 000 of them.
 

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I think he's saying that he would have continued to play for the Senators until his contract expired and then would have pursued his right to sign with another team.

In some ways, at least he was being honest with Ottawa about his intentions as opposed to waiting until the last minute only to leave the team with even less, or nothing.

John Tavares convincing the Islanders that he was going to stay as a negotiation tactic to drive up his salary demands from Toronto is a whole different story.
Mark Stone
 

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Mark Stone

Well, I wasn't going to bring him up because I tend to think he actually had a desire to stay but organizational issues made that difficult.

I think Dorion said on the Cam and Stick Podcast:

Mark Stone wanted an 8 year deal and I was prepared to give it to him, but Melnyk said no, given that the latter years of the contract might not fit the rebuild

Maybe Melnyk would have been right, I don't know.

Would having Stone have impacted our capacity to draft Stutzle and/or Sanderson?

 

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In some ways, at least he was being honest with Ottawa about his intentions as opposed to waiting until the last minute only to leave the team with even less, or nothing.

John Tavares convincing the Islanders that he was going to stay as a negotiation tactic to drive up his salary demands from Toronto is a whole different story.
For sure. I much prefer a guy that just says no now and lets the team decide. Nobody needs to be a villain in that scenario, especially in a case like this where he wasn't even approached about it until after he was traded.

I remember thinking through the Tavares debacle that maybe he just didn't want to have to move and live in flux away from family for ~3 months when they traded him at the deadline, so he did all that to avoid that specifically.
 

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I'm doing my part.
Me as well. Always have

The only player I didn’t boo was hossa. Because I was young and he was my favourite player. And I mean. There was no holdout. Or anything.

I even booed alfie. I don’t give a f***. Opposing fan bases already are way too comfortable in our building. Opposing players should not be comfortable especially ex players
 

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Me as well. Always have

The only player I didn’t boo was hossa. Because I was young and he was my favourite player. And I mean. There was no holdout. Or anything.

I even booed alfie. I don’t give a f***. Opposing fan bases already are way too comfortable in our building. Opposing players should not be comfortable especially ex players

I think booing can be inspirational to those players. I wonder how productive it is.

But anyway, it's about entertainment and people like to boo.
 
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