Rumor: Adrian Dater - Sakic looking to add a C with a bit of term and Goalie insurance- Mentions JT Miller

[Avs44]

Dater used to have some sources. He’s lost any ins he had with the organization over the last few years, though. Getting fired from the Denver Post 7 years ago was really the beginning of the end of him having anything useful to ever say. At least when he was with the Post he had access to the organization just due to his status.

 

[Canuck Luck]

The Canucks have both those for ya. Halak + miller 50% retained for Barron + Foudy + helleson + 2023 1st

 

[John Mandalorian]

Newhook sounds like a great piece for a Miller trade. I imagine that and a first + a small add would get it done. Probably Barron

Nope.

 

[Perratrooper]

Newhook sounds like a great piece for a Miller trade. I imagine that and a first + a small add would get it done. Probably Barron

Lmao that’s arguably more than what Eichel got.

 

[UrbanImpact]

I dunno. I like the Miller + Halak option but I think our strongest trade chip right now is Sam Girard and I don't think Vancouver needs a Sam Girard

A 1st round pick + Justin Barron is interesting, Barron has looked solid in brief time

Ya Canucks already have Hughes and have high hopes for Rathbone. Both are undersized puck movers. There's no way the Canucks would add Girard into that small Dcore already.

1st + Barron would be something worth it to the Canucks if Miller was a UFA this year. So maybe next year the Canucks take that offer if they dont move Miller this year. Even then, it doesnt sound enough for Miller.

Miller + 2 playoff runs will cost a lot more than a 1st and Baron.

Look what Blake Coleman got.

Coleman's career high was 36 points. Before the Tampa trade he had 31 pts in 57 games.
He was under contract for the next year too like Miller.

Now take a look at Miller's stats. Something like 156 pts in his last 160 games.

Coleman got Foote and 1st

 

[Perratrooper]

The Canucks have both those for ya. Halak + miller 50% retained for Barron + Foudy + helleson + 2023 1st

Take out Helleson and put in Kaut or a second and I’d consider it

 

[dbaz]

1st + Barron is the offer

and im sure a laugh and a simple good luck in the playoffs is the response from the gm.

 

[Petey O]

Yep, Miller and Halak this sounds like. Miller can be retained at 50% for cap flexibility if need be.

Barron, 1st + a piece equivalent to a 1st would be what it would likely take.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Well it’s going to be more than what Coleman got from Tampa to get JT Miller. At his contract for this year and next year he’s significantly underpaid. A lot of teams will be interested if he’s moved and the price will be high.

 

[Shinjuku Calling]

Dater used to have some sources. He’s lost any ins he had with the organization over the last few years, though. Getting fired from the Denver Post 7 years ago was really the beginning of the end of him having anything useful to ever say. At least when he was with the Post he had access to the organization just due to his status.

I can't believe that was 7 years ago...

 

[UrbanImpact]

If Canucks retained 50% on Miller he would only cost 2.6 mil. Thats crazy. Every legit contending team will be in on that.

There seems to be a lot of smoke surrounding Miller lately. Perhaps Trader Jim has put the word out there that Miller is available.

 

[Avs44]

Newhook sounds like a great piece for a Miller trade. I imagine that and a first + a small add would get it done. Probably Barron

I do like how Barron, who the Avs took in the first round two years ago and whose value has gone nowhere but up since, is a "small add." You're suggesting a package equal to what Eichel got.

I'm not going to post more in this thread, but I don't think that's going to happen. As a final point: if we're talking 2022 Dater seriously (we shouldn't), then it also needs to be pointed out he said the organizational plan is to keep Newhook to be the #2 centre of the future, and they're looking for a stop gap for the next 1.5 seasons as he matures into that role. So, if we take Dater seriously, the Avs' plan isn't to trade the future #2 centre for the stopgap forward

 

[Nucker42]

Barron and 1st is a start

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Adamn Henrique is your guy, you dont want miller

Adam Henrique + Stolarz

 

[BCNate]

My offer would be:

Miller @ 50%
Halak


2023 1st
Barron
Helleson/Kaut/Olausson

 

[Perratrooper]

Adamn Henrique is your guy, you dont want miller

Adam Henrique + Stolarz

What’s his injury situation? See that he’s banged up right now. If Anaheim ate $1-1.5m I think it would be a reasonable target.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Interesting and I could see the Avs being a good fit for Miller for another year while Newhook develops.

Barron and a 1st would be a good start but clearly that first is going to be low low low.

 

[Boondock]

Newhook sounds like a great piece for a Miller trade. I imagine that and a first + a small add would get it done. Probably Barron

If you think Newhook, Barron and a 1st is the return for Miller - you will be disappointed. I would be willing to bet Newhook is a non-starter, and I'm a Canuck fan.

 

[Peter Griffin]

As a final point: if we're talking 2022 Dater seriously (we shouldn't), then it also needs to be pointed out he said the organizational plan is to keep Newhook to be the #2 centre of the future, and they're looking for a stop gap for the next 1.5 seasons as he matures into that role. So, if we take Dater seriously, the Avs' plan isn't to trade the future #2 centre for the stopgap forward

I didn’t hear the radio spot but it could also be interpreted as Sakic knows they have a good thing going now and swapping Newhook for Miller is a HUGE upgrade for this post-season and next while the team still has Kadri and MacK is still on a sweetheart deal. Do you wait a couple years, hope Newhook becomes as good as Miller is or do you load up for this season and next?

 

[franste Perreault]

If Colorado want to trade for a center before deadline
Yes Miller is interesting but i am pretty sure Vancouver want a lot for him.
Sakic can find someone who cost less in assets to move.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

What’s his injury situation? See that he’s banged up right now. If Anaheim ate $1-1.5m I think it would be a reasonable target.

Not 100% sure... seems like theyve been hush hush about it. Just labeled lower body injury. Hopefully hes back before deadline, and can show he is healhty.... i think a few playoff teams would love to add his center depth(can also play wing).... and is a pretty good leader/locker room guy. And i agree if we retain 1-1.5 a team like Colorado might be very interested.

Would be a lot cheaper than a guy like Miller, asset wise. And you could prob manage to get Stolarz as part of the deal who is a solid back up(dostal looks ready, and honstly ericksson ek prob deserves to get a look in the not too distant future)... ducks are in a position to move stolarz i think

 

[John Mandalorian]

I didn’t hear the radio spot but it could also be interpreted as Sakic knows they have a good thing going now and swapping Newhook for Miller is a HUGE upgrade for this post-season and next while the team still has Kadri and MacK is still on a sweetheart deal. Do you wait a couple years, hope Newhook becomes as good as Miller is or do you load up for this season and next?

This guy floats rumors that are almost always erroneous. He has no connections with the team. He even had his press credential revoked.

 

[Overrateprospects]

If that's true, Miller + Halak makes so much sense. But the price would obviously be high, and I'm not sure what the Avs would be willing to part with. I believe their first is already gone this year, and I can't imagine losing Miller without a firs coming back.

I’ll be shocked because like Stevie Y Sakic seems very conservative and won’t go all in. Tampa doesn’t win if they don’t go all in 2020 getting Coleman Goodrow which made it easier to do the same in 2021 with Savard

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

Lmao that’s arguably more than what Eichel got.

Nobody factors in the two players they are going to have to lose due to salary cap for basically nothing in order to fit in Eichel.
So add those two, say Smith and Dandonov to the trade. Everyone knows they are in trouble and will have to unload them with a potential kicker or two.

 

[AslanRH]

Avs need at Center is an upgrade on Helm/Jost/Maltsev. A great faceoff guy who can skate and improve the PK rotation. I think any offense improvement is just icing on the cake.

Miller would be an awesome luxury add at C/W but likely too pricey for the long term organizational plan.