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Yes. Erik Karlsson is a once in ten years type of player. If you're using that as your benchmark good luck ever being satisfied with Adam Larsson.
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Yes. Erik Karlsson is a once in ten years type of player. If you're using that as your benchmark good luck ever being satisfied with Adam Larsson.
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It's very fair for us to expect to see a whole lot more from Adam next season.
The coaches have to stop coddling him and let him join the rush and make plays in the offensive zone too.
I recall seeing a poll a few seasons ago on who will be a better pro, Adam or Karlsson, and I think Larsson won it. He had very high expectations as an all around defensemen-including offense.
Let's hope he does not turn into Craig Wolanin Part-2.
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Larsson should have high expectations. But not based on some arbitrary comparison with Erik Karlsson.
I hope to the hockey gods we'd be able to get a better forward than Eberle for Larsson.
We'd be lucky to get Eberle for Larsson, so I don't know why we'd be getting a "better player" for a kid who has nothing else to his name other then potential.
Eberle is a prove player and is still very young.
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Eberle is a legit top winger and still hase room for improvement. Eberle for Larsson is a very fair deal. id just rather have Larsson
I don't think he sucks or anything, but I think his season last year wasn't indicative of his true talent. Taylor Hall is gonna make a lot of players look better than they are throughout his career.
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Eberle for Larsson is more than a fair deal ATM. But we don't know what we have in Larsson yet. A dman is likely to peak around 27. Patience.
Patience is one thing but when are going to give our kids a shot at proving themselves?
Larsson needs to play top minutes, period, cause the veterans players on our roster aren't as good as him. We also have up and coming prospects that can't stay in the minors for another 2 to 3 years, so they need to a legit shot at cracking the team as well.
With that said, there's some dead weight that needs to be moved to make room in favour of some young and new faces.
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PDB is too kind with his veterans boys, I won't argue that at all.
But that doesn't make AL a worse player in the absolute. The day AL will be too good to be overlooked, PDB will shut his favoritism down and he'll give AL the key of our defence. Book it. PDB is stubborn, but stupid he ain't.
Hall and Eberle don't play on the same line. And when they do see time together, it's a 1A and 1B thing.
Eberle is the real deal. Attributing his success to Taylor Hall is silly.
Yeah, that really worked out for Tyler Myers, Luke Schenn, and Zach Bogosian.
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So you're saying Hall draws the toughest assignments, and Eberle gets to play against weaker defensmen?
First of all, I think that weaker assignment argument is ridiculous when comparing 1st and 2nd line, regardless of the player or team. It's not like every single shift Hall takes, he's facing Jesus and skates and everytime Eberle takes a shift, he's facing a bunch of Mike Mottau's. When it comes to 1st and 2nd lines, I think opponents ideally want their 1st pair out against the 1st line but it's not like that's going to happen every single shift anyway.
Not to mention, some teams are going to send out their top offensive line to try to outscore Edmonton's top line while other teams are going to send out more of a checking line.
I think the assignment argument comes more into play when discussing something like how Kovalchuk facing top competition opens opportunities for Clarkson on the 3rd line. It also comes into play when saying CBGB is better suited as a 4th line playing against other 4th liners.
Also, for what it's worth, Eberle techincally plays on Edmonton's 1st line while Hall plays on the 2nd.
Point being, it's a ridiculous argument.
Also, let it be known that in their 3 years together, Eberle has outscored Hall twice. This shortened season was the first time Hall outscored Eberle.
AfroThunder396
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It's not a ridiculous argument at all, but that discussion is for a different thread.
I'll leave it at this - I'm skeptical that Eberle's production would translate to our team. He'd easily one of our best forwards but I wouldn't expect +70 points out of him.
It's also the first time Taylor Hall wasn't a teenager.
Who cares what other players are doing on other teams. I don't see you talking about Doughty, Pietrangelo, Karlsson, Hedman, OEL, Brodin, Hamonic, etc since it's way easier to valid your point with guys that had a hard time living up to expectations.
Bottom line is that Larsson needs to play more minutes, especially with the veterans who are earning heavy minutes and can't handle them properly, like Salvador for example.
There's no valid reason IMO, that Salvador should be playing a full 3 minutes more then Fayne or Larsson but that's exactly what's going on atm. Adam looked real solid in his rookie season and was guided by Big Bird and actually looked better then he did this year.
The fact that both our youngsters got caught in Pete's musical chair fiasco didn't help either and I might be wrong about this but didn't Adam speak out about how nerv wracking it was for him to play his game, knowing that the slightess little mistake will result in him missing the next game?
You can't hold your kid by the hand 24/7. You have to let him walk and if he falls down, it's up to him to get back up on his own and for us to give him the proper guidance afterwards but I just feel he's getting the raw end of the deal over certain players who've been in the league longer but aren't a better option for the good of the team.
Brodin is 40 games into his career, Hamonic is meh, and some of the other guys you named weren't 25 minute D-men when they first jumped into the league.
I'm fine with how many minutes Larsson gets. My two complaints are him being healthy scratched which I don't think should ever happen, and I think he should get sheltered PP time.
I'm fine with how many minutes Larsson gets. My two complaints are him being healthy scratched which I don't think should ever happen, and I think he should get sheltered PP time.
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It won't be the last time.
Eberle's best year (by far) was the year he DID play with Hall, no?
EDIT: http://www.coppernblue.com/2012/8/1...ments-results-aka-hemsky-hall-are-really-good
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Jets fan here.
I believe it's working out well for Bogosian. IMHO he is our number 1 D asset. The shut down guys get no love but Zach has been very good since he has been in Winnipeg. I could bore you with stats but this is a devils thread so I will stand down
Larsson is a Beauty.....I am a huge fan.
Brodin is 40 games into his career and loging heavy minutes for a team that made the post season. Hamonic is very underated and got heavy minutes when he cracked the Islanders lineup as well.
I just don't know why Larsson's minutes went down when looking at his rookie season and his sophmore year, especially with the cast we have on the blueline, plus the fact that he get's zero PP time when he's the one that has the best on ice vision out of our 8 blueliners is still a headscratcher to me.
I mean, when you throw Salvador on the PP over Larsson (it happend once but I still remember my reaction when I saw Sal on the point, I was like WTF is going on here ?!?!?!), that's just a bonehead move cause the entire world knows that our captain has no business being on the ice when we're up a man.
And this post means what exactly?
The bottom line is that a 20 year old kid shouldn't be tired after 67 games and he should be playing more minutes over certain veterans who can't handle a bigger work load cause they're just not good enough.
