Adam Larsson potential

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I still think it is weird that they played him 25 minutes a night to start his career last year, including some 1st PP time, then they started babying him. soemthing isnt right about that.

 

[aboriginal]

I still think it is weird that they played him 25 minutes a night to start his career last year, including some 1st PP time, then they started babying him. soemthing isnt right about that.

deebo. everything they said in science books is about to come true. and by science books, i mean panther fans. there is NOT A SINGLE valid reason why they could not rotate 3-4 dmen on both pp units. hes a capable pmd with a great deflectable shot and prob one of the best stretch passers on the team. theres no reason he shouldnt be parked on the left side, behind kovys wheelhouse and across from zids to feed him as well. yeah we can attribute the pp to personnel, but that falls on deebo when hes not using the right horses. hes gotta smarten the **** up and stop being stubborn. the 2 min kovy show does not ****ing work. and i wont get u started on clarkson taking offensive zone pp faceoffs over our supposed #1 center. lunacy.

 

[apice3*]

Brodin is 40 games into his career and loging heavy minutes for a team that made the post season. Hamonic is very underated and got heavy minutes when he cracked the Islanders lineup as well.

Tyler Myers had a solid rookie campaign himself, did he not?

You are also talking about two players with awful defenses. Our D, with Greene, Fayne, Tallinder and Zidlicky is miles ahead of either of those two teams.

 

[aboriginal]

i cant say i hate tally. hes miles ahead of volch as well. yeah he can look spotty, but i expect that when his playing time is according to deebos pregame dartboard roster decision.

 

[Devils731]

There have been plenty of reasons given why Larsson isn't a good fit on the PP right now. Slow decision making, slow acceleration, poor at changing direction, not great at backwards skating, slow shot release, and his best offensive asset, the stretch pass, doesn't come up all that often on the PP.

His vision is really nice and his passing is good, but you can't have a guy on the PP, who may end up on an island, who other teams will attack with reckless abandon and Larsson hasn't shown he'll be able to handle those situations through his even strength play.

For the Devils last season, I think Zids and Greene would definitely be better PP options at the point, then Harrold when he is playing is likely a better option. Tallinder and Fayne are also both likely better options. There was just too much risk of Larsson getting burned on the PP to make up for the fact he wasn't going to bring markedly better offense to it than 5 guys who are most trustworthy on an island.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Tallinder is a fine #5 DMan.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

you can't tell me Harrold, Fayne, or Tallinder are better options than Larsson on the PP, sorry. its a push at best.

 

[Bleedred]

I thought Tallinder was solid for most of the season. He looked like he was done during that 3 game stretch earlier in the season after he was taken out of the lineup. He came back in, and was solid ever since, I thought so at least. I still wouldn't mind seeing if we can trade him to open up $3.4 million in roster space though, but I'm fine if he has to stay. Volchenkov can get bought out by Medvedev, and I would consider it one of the greatest gifts we've ever received.

 

[Devils731]

you can't tell me Harrold, Fayne, or Tallinder are better options than Larsson on the PP, sorry. its a push at best.

Offensively it's a push, defensively those guys are all way more reliable than Larsson in PP situations.

I know it was only about 2 shifts, but both times Larsson got on the PP this season it highlighted why he wasn't there all year. He isn't mobile enough or quick enough to patrol the top of a PP yet.

 

[Bleedred]

If Zidlicky isn't back I keep seeing a lot of Tallinder on the PP. Especially if Larsson is given a chance, and the PP isn't doing anything.

 

[Volodya Krutov]

It's not only being productive and showing off some superb ice-vision but firstly to not give shorthanded chances in and out. Tallinder and Harrold are better than Larsson at holding the zone ATM, which is the key for playing the point on PP.

 

[Volodya Krutov]

But there's no doubt Larsson will improve. He's stil miles away from his full potential

 

[Unknown Caller]

And this post means what exactly?

The bottom line is that a 20 year old kid shouldn't be tired after 67 games and he should be playing more minutes over certain veterans who can't handle a bigger work load cause they're just not good enough.

It means that he had plenty of playing time given the circumstances so stop *****ing. You would think they sent the kid on vacation to an island for a year and told him not to touch a puck. If he doesn't improve because he sat 10 games then he never would have developed anyway.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

you can't tell me that they have told Larsson to just play how he wants. I don't believe that at all. he is being sheltered.

 

[apice3*]

you can't tell me Harrold, Fayne, or Tallinder are better options than Larsson on the PP, sorry. its a push at best.

you can't tell me that they have told Larsson to just play how he wants. I don't believe that at all. he is being sheltered.

What can I tell you? :paulrus:

 

[Volodya Krutov]

They maybe played it a bit safe with him and also him having a small of a sophomore slump.
I see Larsson close to drastically improving though. Truth is, he already finished his season quite strongly, especially offensively getting 18 SOG in his last 11 games. He previously registered 12 SOG in his first 26 games (!!!).

 

[Saugus]

It's just consistency with Larsson. Pete has said it and Devils fans should have seen that there were games when he was a defensive wall making great outlets. I'm not too worried about him. I was intrigued by what Gelinas was bringing though.

Agreed on everything here. Larsson's consistency will come and then we'll wonder why anybody ever wanted to trade him. This kid is the future of our defence folks. Learn to love him, he'll be around a while.

I also really like Gelinas too. I think he'll be a good middle pairing guy in the future.

Larsson will be fine eventually. I do wonder though if the same people who defend him so forcefully are the same one's who thought Parise was staying

The two have no correlation whatsoever. Being right or wrong then has nothing to do with our opinions on Larsson.

you can't tell me Harrold, Fayne, or Tallinder are better options than Larsson on the PP, sorry. its a push at best.

They are right now, but Larsson can't improve at it if he never gets any time on the PP. I'd like to ease him into it.

 

[NC107*]

I am sorry to say that Larsson will not be the Devils defensive saviour.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I am sorry to say that Larsson will not be the Devils defensive saviour.

damn! guess they should just cut him

 

[Unknown Caller]

I am sorry to say that Larsson will not be the Devils defensive saviour.

This is all kinds of stupid for multiple reasons.

In terms of his development, people need to understand that the type of player Larsson is takes much longer to develop and surface than a Doughty, Karlsson, or Ekman-Larsson. Offensive defenseman with speed and skill show their talent quickly because of their style of play. A player like Larsson who relies on a two-way game, positioning, and stick work takes much longer to develop than an offensive defenseman. The lack of patience is ridiculous.

 

[aboriginal]

I am sorry to say that Larsson will not be the Devils defensive saviour.

based on what? hallucinogens?

 

[apice3*]

There's a certain character that Danny Devito plays in The Nightman Cometh episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia that applies to the situation, but that I can't say because it's frowned upon.

Don't pay the toll of said character.

Larsson is very good for his age.

 

[Devils86]

Yes. Erik Karlsson is a once in ten years type of player. If you're using that as your benchmark good luck ever being satisfied with Adam Larsson.

If everyone knew EK was generational player would he have lasted to 15th??? ..Plz read what I wrote, I didnt say he should be EK I said it was not out of expectation that we should expect more out of our 4th pick. I for one do not think he will be a bust but unless his skating improves he will never reach that next level

 

[Devils86]

Exactly. People who were expecting a dynamic offensive defenseman were never understanding Larsson's game in the first place. That was never what he was about.

This is exactly what was being sold. 99% of us never saw him play much. We are judging in what we see now, Its amazing how we all see the player and see such different things. Some think he'd played great, alas I'm not on the side that see that, Potential is a great thing and he may reach that I hope he does,

 

[Unknown Caller]

This is exactly what was being sold. 99% of us never saw him play much. We are judging in what we see now, Its amazing how we all see the player and see such different things. Some think he'd played great, alas I'm not on the side that see that, Potential is a great thing and he may reach that I hope he does,

That wasn't what was being sold. Ryan Murphy was being sold that way. If you watched a single game of the world juniors that year or read one scouting report it was evident that he wasn't a dynamic offensive defenseman, but a strong two-way, positionally sound pmd.