Value of: Adam Henrique at 50% retained

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No you are talking bout trading drysdale for scraps


Carolina was a team i could see being interested if they miss out on a bigger name
He would fit the Trocheck type of trade we usually do. The FO has been hard after a top tier player, Eichel and Tkachuk lately. So a move on Meier and then getting someone like Henrique as more depth, then a d move. We are going into the playoffs ready.
 
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He would fit the Trocheck type of trade we usually do. The FO has been hard after a top tier player, Eichel and Tkachuk lately. So a move on Meier and then getting someone like Henrique as more depth, then a d move. We are going into the playoffs ready.
What kind of dmen? we got Kling/Shatt/Kulikov

and in my dream scenario we look to move on from Fowler
 

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John Mandalorian

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He play well as a #6 def in the team bring leadership.
For Colorado: they will keep him and put him at the right spot when Byram and Manson will be back


3rd Rd pick and a low to mid range prospect

This could be wrong, of course. But you have to wonder about the degree of posturing in here.
 

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What’s your end game plan? That’s four second round picks. And likely more with Shattenkirk and Klingberg.

Do you want Anaheim drafting the entire second round? Or are you planning to use them to move up.

And I didn’t mean to reiterate, but what’s your final position in this draft. Just give me a perspective.

For instance, I’m gonna trade all second round picks for Brayden Yager at the six spot
This is not realistic.
 

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3rd Rd pick and a low to mid range prospect

This could be wrong, of course. But you have to wonder about the degree of posturing in here.
If that article is right and thinks we can get a 1st for Klingberg, and a 2nd for Shattenkirk, I’m all for it. Will just keep Henrique who has been very good for the kids.
 

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If that article is right and thinks we can get a 1st for Klingberg, and a 2nd for Shattenkirk, I’m all for it. Will just keep Henrique who has been very good for the kids.
The article is almost two months old...except for Henrique, the value of the other 4 players mentioned has probably declined a bit.
 

John Mandalorian

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The article is almost two months old...except for Henrique, the value of the other 4 players mentioned has probably declined a bit.

Is Henrique still 32?

If that article is right and thinks we can get a 1st for Klingberg, and a 2nd for Shattenkirk, I’m all for it. Will just keep Henrique who has been very good for the kids.

Like I said: posturing.
 

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3rd Rd pick and a low to mid range prospect

This could be wrong, of course. But you have to wonder about the degree of posturing in here.

Then he doesn’t get traded. It just makes no sense for the Ducks.
 

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3rd Rd pick and a low to mid range prospect

This could be wrong, of course. But you have to wonder about the degree of posturing in here.
Idk if I’d call it “posturing”. Also depends on the rest of the market and retention/cap dumps

Majority of duck fans don’t even really want to move him, and if the price is just a 3rd we could just wait till next year where it’ll likely be higher.
 

John Mandalorian

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Idk if I’d call it “posturing”. Also depends on the rest of the market and retention/cap dumps

Majority of duck fans don’t even really want to move him, and if the price is just a 3rd we could just wait till next year where it’ll likely be higher.
Yeah, I agree about being meh on a 3rd. A 2nd is fair, however. I think some of this thinking takes place in a vacuum. If you focus on age, you can see where he might come up with a 3rd as his value. But when you consider other variables taking place in the trade market, him being an alternative option to the more expensive guys drives his price up somewhat.

I didn't provide that link as a gotcha to say, that he's only worth a third. I think there are a lot of people here who default to "everything is worth a first (or it's not worth it)".

I don't think Anaheim benefits to wait a year for a player who's 32. The situation likely changes next year with the salary cap being on the verge of going up a decent amount. Teams will be less hesitant to overpay for rentals in that scenario. Henrique is perfectly positioned as a trade piece this year. When his deal ends, the salary cap will likely be going up (so he provides a bridge of cost certainty to teams valuing that). I can see the Avs being one of them. Last year, the Avs kept most/all of their acquisitions (I don't count Sturm since he was part of a trade requested by Jost).
 

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Yeah, I agree about being meh on a 3rd. A 2nd is fair, however. I think some of this thinking takes place in a vacuum. If you focus on age, you can see where he might come up with a 3rd as his value. But when you consider other variables taking place in the trade market, him being an alternative option to the more expensive guys drives his price up somewhat.

I didn't provide that link as a gotcha to say, that he's only worth a third. I think there are a lot of people here who default to "everything is worth a first (or it's not worth it)".

I don't think Anaheim benefits to wait a year for a player who's 32. The situation likely changes next year with the salary cap being on the verge of going up a decent amount. Teams will be less hesitant to overpay for rentals in that scenario. Henrique is perfectly positioned as a trade piece this year. When his deal ends, the salary cap will likely be going up (so he provides a bridge of cost certainty to teams valuing that). I can see the Avs being one of them. Last year, the Avs kept most/all of their acquisitions (I don't count Sturm since he was part of a trade requested by Jost). So I can see the Avs having interest.

If he's only going to fetch chump change at this deadline, then it makes more sense for the Ducks to just keep him. The goal isn't to give our young players absolutely nothing to play with and create as much futility as possible. They need a solid veteran leader more than another middling pick.

He either returns something of real consequence or he stays put. It's not posturing (none of us have any say in what happens) but just the reality of the situation. Not interested in trading him for the sake of a trade.

Anaheim has a top five pick, three second rounders and two thirds, with one of the deepest prospect pools in the game already. They don't need to trade their better players for more picks in that range.
 
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