The Lindgren-Fox pair struggled a lot last year, I felt, and it seemed like most of the blame was directed towards Lindgren. I think defensively, though, Fox has been having some issues for a while.
Player Discussion Adam Fox
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Fox was arguably our best skater in the playoffs.
HFsNumber1Heel
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Eh, he signed the extension right after the Seattle game which was nearly a year ago. (I was at that game and on my way back from the airport when they announced the extension on the Michael Kay Show).
He was great most of last season until the injury, and he was very good in the playoffs (he was money in both game 7s).
It's really early, the team hasn't gelled. He'll probably end up with somewhere between 65-80 points.
Imagine if every1 could post a thread aboit a player and why x poster thinks a small sample is representative of their entire career going forward? We'd have every thread buried. You even immediately came here bc u know you're supposed to use the players actual thread. Cmon u know it has nothing to do w oversensitivity otherwise your post would be removed here too
I think he's been great for the most part. Defense tends to be a position that gets overly criticized. As a defenseman so much of what you're doing is mitigation and in the other direction, it's so dependent on what's available to you--ie what your forwards are doing. Fox has been pretty much vintage, dominant by any statistic you want to start the year (except, oddly enough PP points).
I think playing less than he did his Norris year effects his perception. There's just less volume of jaw dropping plays to watch now. That's a good thing overall though, as millers ascendence will only help the team. I also think that deep down people still want fox to be everything he isn't (big and fast). His strengths, like any player, are exactly what burn him when he gets burned (happens to every player). He sometimes waits too long, sometimes he makes a read that was correct until a bounce changes the outcome he was anticipating. Idk I think he's pretty much continued to be a superstar, top 3 player at his position. But jmo.
I think playing less than he did his Norris year effects his perception. There's just less volume of jaw dropping plays to watch now. That's a good thing overall though, as millers ascendence will only help the team. I also think that deep down people still want fox to be everything he isn't (big and fast). His strengths, like any player, are exactly what burn him when he gets burned (happens to every player). He sometimes waits too long, sometimes he makes a read that was correct until a bounce changes the outcome he was anticipating. Idk I think he's pretty much continued to be a superstar, top 3 player at his position. But jmo.
Rongomania
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He looked like what we all wanted bread to look like in the PO's, sans the D of course.
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Foxy trying to get himself another Norris?
3rd in points among Dmen with 16 points in 15 games.
He's looked fantastic as of late again(not that he was playing poor beforehand either).
Defenseman scoring on the team:
Fox - 16 points
The rest - 14 points
Miller - 4
Trouba - 4
Jones - 2
Lindgren - 2
Schneider - 1
Hajek - 1
3rd in points among Dmen with 16 points in 15 games.
He's looked fantastic as of late again(not that he was playing poor beforehand either).
Defenseman scoring on the team:
Fox - 16 points
The rest - 14 points
Miller - 4
Trouba - 4
Jones - 2
Lindgren - 2
Schneider - 1
Hajek - 1
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The guy is an amazing talent, end of story.Foxy trying to get himself another Norris?
3rd in points among Dmen with 16 points in 15 games.
He's looked fantastic as of late again(not that he was playing poor beforehand either).
Defenseman scoring on the team:
Fox - 16 points
The rest - 14 points
Miller - 4
Trouba - 4
Jones - 2
Lindgren - 2
Schneider - 1
Hajek - 1
There will be those waiting for a slip up to tell us how he isn't "the same player".
Go watch some of the other "Norris" guys. You will have a new found appreciation of Fox.
I think Fox is certainly going to be in the Norris conversation if he keeps playing like this. I said it at the beginning of the year - he has a chance to be a 90+ point defenseman. His defense has really been excellent lately as well after a shaky start.
I think Fox is a generational talent for the reason that there is no other defenseman (or even forward for that matter) who can emulate some of the stuff he does on the ice. Makar if healthy will probably always be the front runner as his production is slightly higher but the healthy thing is a big caveat
SA16
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Has he surpassed K’Andre in “most likely Ranger to get Norris votes” at this point?
People are so dumb. They think size and speed is everything. The idea that K'andre was better than Fox either offensively or defensively was beyond stupid.
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KAM's rise hasn't been the leap off the lunar module type jump that some predicted so far. Or the Reavo call out of him pre season.
It's been a bit of a side step for me. Not worse. Not better. I think his game with get better but in slower increments than the pre season hype.
Fox has been absolutely outstanding. Some of those passes he made last night are elite types.
Not the kind of stuff that's in Miller's toolbox.
When you mention elite "vision", this cat has got it in spades.
It's been a bit of a side step for me. Not worse. Not better. I think his game with get better but in slower increments than the pre season hype.
Fox has been absolutely outstanding. Some of those passes he made last night are elite types.
Not the kind of stuff that's in Miller's toolbox.
When you mention elite "vision", this cat has got it in spades.
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This is also not a chin-friendly league
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Norris level offense in my opinion but I'd still like to see him improve in other areas at times. Still there are no perfect players. His good greatly outweighs the hiccups.
I think a lot of people forgot how good he really is because he played through injury for basically the entire second half of last season. He was easily our best skater in the playoffs once he finally looked healthy again.
HockeyBasedNYC
Feeling it
Was thinking in the first period how the Rangers could use more from Fox. We really hadnt seen him dominate play too much.
And then that happened.
He was Norris Adam last night.
Coincidence that Lindgren was back with him? I think not.
And then that happened.
He was Norris Adam last night.
Coincidence that Lindgren was back with him? I think not.
He was probably better in the Islander game tbh.
Not saying that Lindgren is bad (he isn't), but Fox's success isn't tied to him.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
Rocking a sweet 65% xG% so far. He's been the Rangers best player so far. Extremely lucky to have this guy anchoring our defense.
