Confirmed with Link: Adam Fox wins the Norris Trophy

[Joey Bones]

Dope!!

 

[Machinehead]

I also think he loses because he doesn't wear a cool Dman number like a 77 like Hedman does. 23? Jordan? This pompous sophomore pro thinks he's Jordan?

But seriously, getting nominated is a win in itself. Gives him real legitimacy for future voting.

It could be worse. He could wear 79.

Not mentioning any names.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

He should absolutely win but Hedman will because he's a household name, made playoffs and is big.

 

[sbjnyc]

I also think he loses because he doesn't wear a cool Dman number like a 77 like Hedman does. 23? Jordan? This pompous sophomore pro thinks he's Jordan?

But seriously, getting nominated is a win in itself. Gives him real legitimacy for future voting.

Even Lebron doesn't like 23 anymore.

 

[Machinehead]

Fox will finish third.

Hedman is tall and Makar skates pretty.

Those are literally the top 2 ways people analyze defensemen.

 

[TominNC]

I think if they win the cup Hedman is a lock. Playoffs are big in his favor. If not I say it’s between him and fox 60-40 but fox should win. He was solid for a longer stretch. Makar has a great year, Hedman and Fox were just better

The voting is done before the playoffs. They playoffs have NO effect on the results other than knowing certain guys will be in the playoffs at time of voting.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

The voting is done before the playoffs. They playoffs have NO effect on the results other than knowing certain guys will be in the playoffs at time of voting.

I don't understand why this needs to be explained every year.

 

[Leonardo87]

Fox will finish third.

Hedman is tall and Makar skates pretty.

Those are literally the top 2 ways people analyze defensemen.

The chin should get him some votes though.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Travesty if he doesn't win it now. Hedman and Makar both had shotgun riders in Point/Stamkos and Mackinnon/Rantanen.

Fox had a adversely affected by COVID Mika and didn't have Panarin for half the year and out produced the other two while playing 25 minutes a night in all situations and being excellent in his own end.

The fix is in if he doesn't take it.

Fox has the highes quality of competition and lowest quality of teammates between the 3. Best defensive metrics too. And most points.

 

[TominNC]

I don't understand why this needs to be explained every year.

Are you kidding? I'll put money on it that it needs to be explained again this thread.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Are you kidding? I'll put money on it that it needs to be explained again this thread.

True story.

 

[Bob Richards]

The chin should get him some votes though.

When Adam Fox opens his mouth his chin hits the tops of his shoes.

 

[Edge]

There's no way he wins it with the Rangers missing the playoffs. Journalists are f***ing Neanderthals like GMs. Every freaking award that's based on voting is a mess.

Selke and Norris are probably the worst. Always goes to a player based on reputation, not recent performance.

I think Hedman gets it based on reputation and team success.

The silver lining is that this is potentially the first step for Fox to start getting credit for those same things and establish himself has a strong candidate moving forward.

 

[Irishguy42]

The voting is done before the playoffs. They playoffs have NO effect on the results other than knowing certain guys will be in the playoffs at time of voting.

I don't understand why this needs to be explained every year.

Technically speaking...the voting did end after the playoffs started this year. I believe May 20th, so a bunch of teams had already played at least two games in Round 1.

 

[will1066]

The chin should get him some votes though.

I think it'll work against him. Big chins haven't been an "in" thing since Leno retired.

 

[will1066]

I think Hedman gets it based on reputation and team success.

The silver lining is that this is potentially the first step for Fox to start getting credit for those same things and establish himself has a strong candidate moving forward.

Yes, this has been said, with the second point having been made by me personally. Yet when you say it, there's more believability.

The main thing is that Fox got his foot in the door. Now he will be in there forever.

 

[Machinehead]

The chin should get him some votes though.

Helped Girardi finish 6th!

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Technically speaking...the voting did end after the playoffs started this year. I believe May 20th, so a bunch of teams had already played at least two games in Round 1.

I stand corrected then.

 

[mike14]

The voting is done before the playoffs. They playoffs have NO effect on the results other than knowing certain guys will be in the playoffs at time of voting.

Is that not an effect though? Knowing that a defenceman helped his team make the playoffs (or almost certainly make the playoffs) could influence how someone votes, even if it is not supposed to.

As Machinehead said, the Norris winner is generally based on perceived reputation more than any thing else, but I think it would be short sighted to assume league position isn't a factor in voting - it just might not be the deciding one

 

[Irishguy42]

Imagine trading two second round picks for a Norris finalist?

Pog

 

[TominNC]

Is that not an effect though? Knowing that a defenceman helped his team make the playoffs (or almost certainly make the playoffs) could influence how someone votes, even if it is not supposed to.

As Machinehead said, the Norris winner is generally based on perceived reputation more than any thing else, but I think it would be short sighted to assume league position isn't a factor in voting - it just might not be the deciding one

Yes, but there were comments about Tampa winning the cup affecting the vote.

Ah why bother

 

[mike14]

Yes, but there were comments about Tampa winning the cup affecting the vote.

Ah why bother

Yeah that's fair enough then. I missed the 'cup' bit of the conversation.

 

[Edge]

Yes, this has been said, with the second point having been made by me personally. Yet when you say it, there's more believability.

The main thing is that Fox got his foot in the door. Now he will be in there forever.

I agree with the thought process.

I don't like the factors that likely come into play this season, but like you I have to acknowledge them as a distinct possibility.

It's fine, I'll trade 2021 Norris for two or three more in the 2020s, along with a Smythe.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Well Weeksey just picked Fox to win it so there’s that!

 

[RangerBlues]

Sell high, Get some centers