Confirmed with Link: Adam Fox wins the Norris Trophy

[Edge]

If you told me 3 years ago that a Ranger would win the Norris this season I would've laughed in your face loudly and in an aggressive manner.

And what’s interesting is how scouts had him pegged coming into the NHL as well. There were very few people who saw him every becoming this good, let alone this soon.

For as highly thought of as Fox was, he’s shattered most expectations.

 

[Inferno]

I was told he was meh defensively.


Which is the strange part considering I'd say he's elite defensively.

 

[Doctyl]

I was told he was meh defensively.


Which is the strange part considering I'd say he's elite defensively.

I think the funniest take I read on the main boards was that he’s just a right winger being covered defensively by Ryan Strome

 

[Sockosensei]

I think the funniest take I read on the main boards was that he’s just a right winger being covered defensively by Ryan Strome

For me the funniest was one saying how he's always caught up ice.

I've really seen a defenseman who jumps into the play as often as Fox does who also gets caught up ice as rarely as Fox.

 

[savebyrichter94]

I think the funniest take I read on the main boards was that he’s just a right winger being covered defensively by Ryan Strome

That was an absolutely ridiculous post, I couldn’t believe what I was reading until I realized who posted it and then it all made sense

Potvin Sucks!

 

[kovazub94]

Two 2nd round picks was an overpayment, amiright?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

That was an absolutely ridiculous post, I couldn’t believe what I was reading until I realized who posted it and then it all made sense

Potvin Sucks!

Was it PB?

 

[Pidto Files]

Next up, Jimmy Vesey to announce the Ted Lindsey Award, sponsored by Ambien.

Sick.

 

[savebyrichter94]

Was it PB?

Nah some Piles fan with Potvin in his name so nobody should be surprised his opinions suck too

I think PB was actually in there defending Fox against the trolls

 

[kovazub94]

Did Fox earned a bonus for winning Norris? With ELC bonus penalties the Rangers had to worry last season - there shouldn’t be a cost carryover into 21-22 season, right?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Did Fox earned a bonus for winning Norris? With ELC bonus penalties the Rangers had to worry last season - there shouldn’t be a cost carryover into 21-22 season, right?

Fox' max bonus is 850k

Miller was selected to the All Rookie team, earning him $212,500.

That's a total of 1.1m added to the cap.

I think they had enough to fit that under the cap. The big risk pre-season was in Lafrenière (2.85m), Shestyorkin (2.85m) and Kakko (2.65m) who had much higher max performance bonuses

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

And what’s interesting is how scouts had him pegged coming into the NHL as well. There were very few people who saw him every becoming this good, let alone this soon.

For as highly thought of as Fox was, he’s shattered most expectations.

For sure. I knew he was a special type of player but he really took off.

He doesn't really have to, but can you imagine if he begins scoring more goals in the next stage of his development? I think if he does it will be him figuring out how to perfectly time wristers through to the net ala Brian Rafalski, the years he scored 8-13.

Just realized with the shortened season his numbers this year extrapolate to about 7G, 62A.

 

[Doctyl]

And what’s interesting is how scouts had him pegged coming into the NHL as well. There were very few people who saw him every becoming this good, let alone this soon.

For as highly thought of as Fox was, he’s shattered most expectations.

When we made the trade I was just hoping for a solid top 4 guy. After his first year, he made it clear he was going to be good enough to be a #1, maybe a McDonagh type top 10 guy for a few seasons.

this year from him was just wow. The stuff he was doing was insane. His IQ is nuts and the confidence and poise he had dangling guys all year was dazzling to watch. Getting that #1PPQB time really helped the point totals for him. He just looked like a panarin caliber dman all year which is something this team hasn’t had since Leetch.

 

[duhmetreE]

And what’s interesting is how scouts had him pegged coming into the NHL as well. There were very few people who saw him every becoming this good, let alone this soon.

For as highly thought of as Fox was, he’s shattered most expectations.

IQ matters.

We tend to drool over physical tools. Watching players process the game at a Fox level is truly enjoyable.

 

[romba]

For me the funniest was one saying how he's always caught up ice.

I've really seen a defenseman who jumps into the play as often as Fox does who also gets caught up ice as rarely as Fox.

Guy recognizes when to hold em and when to fold em. Once a rush breaks down he's back in position, doesn't press when it's not there. And often causes a turnover that way to get the rush going again.

 

[cheech70]

Adam Fox named hockey's top defenseman, first Jewish player to win a major NHL award - Jewish Telegraphic Agency

never would have guessed ...awesome

 

[LetsGoRangers2021]

Where are the “Quinn ruined the kids crowd”? Raise your virtual mitts.


Those who proclaim that Fox was a finished product when he arrived are spouting nonsense. They are ignorant, willfully so or not.
Quinn constructed the Ryan Lindgren-Fox pair. Both improved. Both thrived under increased responsibility. Pavel Buchnevich improved under Quinn. Mika Zibanejad had the best year of his career playing for Quinn. So did Panarin. So did Ryan Strome. K’Andre Miller made the all-rookie team playing for Quinn.
That is worth remembering.

 

[Synergy27]

IQ matters.

We tend to drool over physical tools. Watching players process the game at a Fox level is truly enjoyable.

This, 100%. It’s interesting that a lot of Ranger fans don’t seem to recognize this, even when we’ve been watching the trajectories of players like Chris Kreider (low IQ) and Derek Stepan (high IQ) for most of our recent memory.

Fox is on another level entirely when it comes to IQ though. He might have HOF level IQ.

 

[Synergy27]

Fox' max bonus is 850k

Miller was selected to the All Rookie team, earning him $212,500.

That's a total of 1.1m added to the cap.

I think they had enough to fit that under the cap. The big risk pre-season was in Lafrenière (2.85m), Shestyorkin (2.85m) and Kakko (2.65m) who had much higher max performance bonuses

Really makes you think that there may have been a concerted effort made by the team to suppress their numbers. Conspiracy thinking for sure, but it explains a whole lot of things that didn't make much sense (ice time, line combos, PP2, etc.).

 

[MysticLeviathan]

Two 2nd round picks was an overpayment, amiright?

i mean it is when you would’ve gotten him for free the following year.

 

[Harbour Dog]

i mean it is when you would’ve gotten him for free the following year.

I haven't got the drive to argue for this anymore haha. People just hear what they want to.

In hindsight, seeing what he is now, obviously we make the trade 10/10 times, just in case we would lose him. But I don't think the chances of us losing him were ever more than negligible, and it was a very arguable decision at the time, whether eliminating any and all chances of losing him was worth two second rounders.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

I haven't got the drive to argue for this anymore haha. People just hear what they want to.

In hindsight, seeing what he is now, obviously we make the trade 10/10, just in case we would lose him. But I don't think the chances of us losing him were ever more than negligible, and it was a very arguable decision at the time, whether eliminating any and all chances of losing him was worth two second rounders.

I still don’t think its worth it. in a vacuum I get the argument, but it was so abundantly clear that the only team he wanted to play for was the Rangers. And it’s not like we were competitive at the time. We could’ve saved a year with his extension, though he’d be a year older and wouldn’t have the year of true NHL seasoning.

I’m happy we have him but the next few years are going to be extremely complicated with regards to the cap.

 

[Harbour Dog]

I still don’t think its worth it. in a vacuum I get the argument, but it was so abundantly clear that the only team he wanted to play for was the Rangers. And it’s not like we were competitive at the time. We could’ve saved a year with his extension, though he’d be a year older and wouldn’t have the year of true NHL seasoning.

I’m happy we have him but the next few years are going to be extremely complicated with regards to the cap.

Agreed. I don't think I would have the nerve to pass up on the trade now, in hindsight, but odds are it would still work well for us if we did. Fox would still be Fox, but with one later year of ELC, and we'd potentially have another two Robertson-level prospects on the way up.

 

[Doctyl]

Where are the “Quinn ruined the kids crowd”? Raise your virtual mitts.


Those who proclaim that Fox was a finished product when he arrived are spouting nonsense. They are ignorant, willfully so or not.
Quinn constructed the Ryan Lindgren-Fox pair. Both improved. Both thrived under increased responsibility. Pavel Buchnevich improved under Quinn. Mika Zibanejad had the best year of his career playing for Quinn. So did Panarin. So did Ryan Strome. K’Andre Miller made the all-rookie team playing for Quinn.
That is worth remembering.

No.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Really makes you think that there may have been a concerted effort made by the team to suppress their numbers. Conspiracy thinking for sure, but it explains a whole lot of things that didn't make much sense (ice time, line combos, PP2, etc.).

That would by far be the dumbest thing this franchise have done in over a decade if true.

If you can get Lafrenière, Kakko and Shestyorkin at a level where they hit their performance bonuses, you take it. That makes you a better team. It's that simple.