Very similar to DeAngelo with the puck in the offensive zone. Maybe a better shot, hard to tell against NCAA competition
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Very similar to DeAngelo with the puck in the offensive zone. Maybe a better shot, hard to tell against NCAA competition
LeetchisGod
This is a bad hockey team.
Hopefully he turns out better than Tim Erixon.
Mike in Houston
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I'm perfectly fine with this deal. We have a ton of picks. Giving up a pair of lottery tickets for a known commodity is good by me.
NYR Viper
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How concerned is anyone in here about his size and strength? He and DeAngelo are very similarly sized but DeAngelo definitely likes to play a rougher game.
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Bob Richards
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We have like a billion picks in the middle of this window.
Getting an asset with an actual name and less “magic beans” to it seems pretty cool to me.
Getting an asset with an actual name and less “magic beans” to it seems pretty cool to me.
The conditional part sucks yes not the trade as a whole. From what I hear next years draft is a good one and if we are in the bottom 10 again that pick could be 35ish. And those early second rounder can surely be used to trade up and grab a top defensive prospect. Again i'm not hating the trade just would have preferred a 2nd and 3rd at most not two picks around 35ish
Vinny DeAngelo
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JimmyG89
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Really like the move because we have so many picks anyway. Fox gets here a year earlier and you now have Fox and ADA as your potential top 4 RHD for the future. Not sure this lines us up for a Trouba trade, but I really think Shattenkirk is going to be shopped and shipped out sometime soon.
We potentially have two other 2nd rounders (Dallas and Tampa) and if Dallas wins the series, we have 3 1sts.
If we really want to trade down to the early 2nd, you can easily take the Dallas 1st (with 3 more wins) and move down and get more picks. Or package picks and move up.
Also, we have Vesey, Namestnikov, Fast and Strome who can be dealt and I'm pretty sure a team might be willing to look at those players for a 2nd or as ammo to move up into the early 2nd.
We have so many prospects. We need top end prospects. Our pool looks good, but we're now adding elite talent into it. Fox, Miller, Kravtsov, Kakko/Hughes, and Igor are top 50 NHL prospects. We have 5 of them. Nils, Libor, Rykov, Tarmo, Barron, WPG 1st have the chance to move into the top 50. All won't make it, but we have assets to move at some point. On top of our young players here now.
It's not unforeseen to see the roster flip that is about to happen with these young players and the ability to go out and make trades for established, young NHL talent that teams cannot sign. It's beginning to come together. The Fox signing is the tip of the iceberg. The next 7 weeks will be trade rumors leading into the draft.
That weekend is set to be the turning point for the rebuild. That's when the future will meet the present.
We potentially have two other 2nd rounders (Dallas and Tampa) and if Dallas wins the series, we have 3 1sts.
If we really want to trade down to the early 2nd, you can easily take the Dallas 1st (with 3 more wins) and move down and get more picks. Or package picks and move up.
Also, we have Vesey, Namestnikov, Fast and Strome who can be dealt and I'm pretty sure a team might be willing to look at those players for a 2nd or as ammo to move up into the early 2nd.
We have so many prospects. We need top end prospects. Our pool looks good, but we're now adding elite talent into it. Fox, Miller, Kravtsov, Kakko/Hughes, and Igor are top 50 NHL prospects. We have 5 of them. Nils, Libor, Rykov, Tarmo, Barron, WPG 1st have the chance to move into the top 50. All won't make it, but we have assets to move at some point. On top of our young players here now.
It's not unforeseen to see the roster flip that is about to happen with these young players and the ability to go out and make trades for established, young NHL talent that teams cannot sign. It's beginning to come together. The Fox signing is the tip of the iceberg. The next 7 weeks will be trade rumors leading into the draft.
That weekend is set to be the turning point for the rebuild. That's when the future will meet the present.
Tob
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This is the type of leadership qualities we need from our experience vets.
The Crypto Guy
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Just a nugget of info:
Fox scored 48 points as a defensemen last season, the 2nd highest point total on Havard only had 31...he WAS the offense.
Fox scored 48 points as a defensemen last season, the 2nd highest point total on Havard only had 31...he WAS the offense.
Fox has always struck me as being a very smart, savvy player. Very reminiscent of Ryan Ellis. No secret to anyone how I feel since I’ve been calling for this for a long time. This is a ten strike for the Rangers!
The future is now!
The future is now!
I hate the idea of trading two 2nds for him if Carolina had no leverage at all. I also have my doubts about him being top pairing material.
Do I like the idea of having him in the pool? Absolutely. Do I love the possibilities of trading two second rounders in the next two drafts that are looking very, very deep? Not at all.
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NYR Viper
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SingnBluesOnBroadway
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I get the idea/desire to "wait a year and just sign him" but getting him now does two things:
1) The Rangers can decide where he should play next year that's best for his develop. That control has value.
2) It gets him in the organization before the draft—so there's a clearer picture as to what they have in-house.
1) The Rangers can decide where he should play next year that's best for his develop. That control has value.
2) It gets him in the organization before the draft—so there's a clearer picture as to what they have in-house.
GeorgeKaplan
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Is that what trading for a kid with 0 pro experience means?David Quinn when he realizes Gorton is pushing to win sooner rather than later and Staal, Smith, and Shattenkirk are still signed for 2 more years at $16M
This board always pisses all over itself whenever these great NCAA players come to us. They always vastly under perform compared to expectations
This board always pisses all over itself whenever these supposed great Dmen come to us. They always vastly under perform compared to expectations. Doubly so if they're offensive defenseman
I'll believe we actually won this trade when I see him being a good dman for us.
This board always pisses all over itself whenever these supposed great Dmen come to us. They always vastly under perform compared to expectations. Doubly so if they're offensive defenseman
I'll believe we actually won this trade when I see him being a good dman for us.
Amazing Kreiderman
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Vinny DeAngelo
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Tony is basically a lock to start the year in the top 4, can Fox push into the lineup and will Pionk and Shattenkirk recover?
Pionk should be moved at the draft now. Pick up a mid-late rounder and let him help a team that needs his skill set
The Crypto Guy
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Does that mean you're going to be bitter about this trade now until he has 2-3 NHL years experience and is playing well?
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