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Confirmed with Link: Adam Fox for 2019 2nd (NYR), 2020 3rd (cond.)

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Sign me up for this hypothetical d-corps in 21-22:

Skjei/DeAngelo
Hajek/Fox
Miller/Keane

Rykov/Lundkvist waiting in the wings, with the chance that Day or Lindgren turn into something.

Full of guys that can (hypothetically) all skate and move the puck - when could you say that about a Rangers d-group?
 
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Rangers gave a bit too much, but if that's the cost for not letting the Islanders get in, its probably worth it. Also with how Makar has looked coming from NCAA to NHL, you have to think that helped expedite things. Not saying Fox is Makar, but Rangers clearly didn't want to risk losing out on Fox.
 
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bl02 said:
Yeah I think Gorton is realizing its gonna be impossible to move up in the draft (7-14 range)
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Not sure there's a connection.

I think he realized that, at the very least, he had 3 second round picks to work with. He used one to get a player who will turn pro immediately.

At a minimum, he still has 21, 50 and 58 to work with, and that doesn't take into account what the Rangers might do with Kreider.

It's also worth noting that if certain players climb a little, that also means guys like Zegras and Newhook could be available outside the top 10.

But I think it goes back to what's been said for a year, I think the Rangers view this draft being about quality and not quantity. I could see a scenario where coming away with Kakko, Zegras/Newhook/whoever, a prospect, and Fox is worth Kreider, the Jets pick, and all our second rounders.

I think they'll take that exchange rate.
 
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Savant said:
Rangers gave a bit too much, but if that's the cost for not letting the Islanders get in, its probably worth it. Also with how Makar has looked coming from NCAA to NHL, you have to think that helped expedite things. Not saying Fox is Makar, but Rangers clearly didn't want to risk losing out on Fox.
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It's the cost of getting him a year earlier than waiting for him to be a UFA.
 
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Ian said:
Sign me up for this hypothetical d-corps in 21-22:

Skjei/DeAngelo
Hajek/Fox
Miller/Keane

Rykov/Lundkvist waiting in the wings, with the chance that Day or Lindgren turn into something.

Full of guys that can (hypothetically) all skate and move the puck - when could you say that about a Rangers d-group?
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I mean it probably won't work out like that but it's fun to dream. I actually think Skjei might get moved in a few years and it'd be more like Miller, Hajek, Rykov down the left if we're assuming it all works out magically
 
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After my initial knee jerk reaction, I'm ok with this. The Rangers will likely recoup both 2nd rounders after liquidating Namestnikov, Fast, and Vesey within the next calendar year.

Pionk should be the one dealt, but I wouldn't be surprised if DeAngelo was the one dealt.
 
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Tony is basically a lock to start the year in the top 4, can Fox push into the lineup and will Pionk and Shattenkirk recover?

Pionk should be moved at the draft now. Pick up a mid-late rounder and let him help a team that needs his skill set
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I would package Pionk in a Kreider deal.
 
I love it. We get Fox, and we didn’t even have to give up a 1st. In a weak draft, nonetheless. Add in Kakko, and this offseason is amazing.

Edit: Also, I would much rather give up a bit more and play him in the pros ASAP, than risk stunting his development in the NCAA.
 
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I’m happy he’s in the fold and think the trade was not great, but fair. I worry a bit that his game won’t translate as well to the pros, but he is an incredibly talented dman with quick thinking and very strong puck skills.

The makeup of the right side of the D still needs some work, but they’ve greatlt improved their ability to control the flow of the game from the backend. Fox performing well in the USDP structure is a bonus, especially if Quinn can get the team to take on that identity this year. Don’t discount Fox’s leadership potential either.
 
Of course people would complain about this lol.

I'd call this a home run. At best you pray the guy you took at that draft spot will one day become the prospect we just got...that's at best.

We just skipped a 2 or 3 year developmental curve for essentially a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Fox at worst is a 3rd pairing defenseman with offensive upside.

The price was totally acceptable.
 
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I Eat Crow said:
After my initial knee jerk reaction, I'm ok with this. The Rangers will likely recoup both 2nd rounders after liquidating Namestnikov, Fast, and Vesey within the next calendar year.

Pionk should be the one dealt, but I wouldn't be surprised if DeAngelo was the one dealt.
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In fairness I don't think nowadays Names or Vesey are worth second rounders. I could be wrong but see more third/4th rounder returns
 
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Another nugget of info:

Cale Maker scored 49 points last season in 41 games
Adam Fox scored 48 points in 33 games.

Another nugget:

Adam fox led the entire NCAA in points per game with 1.45.
Also was 4th in points in the entire NCAA.

Yes that includes all forwards too.
 
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so I feel like we gave up a lot. there's no way this kid is signing here and not promised a roster spot ala Vesey was. he'll get his 30 games and then its two 2nds one at 37 overall and the other in a very good draft. don't like that one bit.

having said that the rangers throw away their second round picks religiously. and when they do make them they waste them on terrible players. so maybe better off.

having said that they probably had to do it. Carolina has no reason to grant this kid a year early exit to his favorite team IN their division. I would have made him sit. so people saying they had no leverage well not really true. they didn't have to do anything and still could have gotten something next summer for the rights. So I'm sure Gorton had to pay more than he wanted to.

Having said ALL THAT..... I do not think for a second this kid is a top pairing dman. he doesn't skate well AT ALL. he's very heady makes great plays ala tony but doesn't come close to the skating ability. undersized offensive dmen that don't skate well have an up hill battle ahead of them. It will be interesting to see if he can still succeed at the nhl pace.

but he's a way better player than pionk who imo should be gone or in the minors next year. maybe they recoup a second for him or shattenkirk at some point.
 
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