This 2022 draft could end up being as good as any draft in Habs history.
Prospect Info: Adam Engstrom
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JianYang
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84, 87 and 07 are the three drafts that really jump out to me as the gold standard.
If we go by hall of fame production. Only 84 has one with Patrick roy, but the first 4 rounds in 87 all produced top line players, which is crazy.
You are spot on...the 84 draft led to the 86 Cup without a doubt. The 87 draft was instrumental in the 93 Cup win
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Norlinder was always inconsistent, everywhere. The idea that he was some great defenseman in Europe is bogus. He had some great stretches, but he was never consistently very good. The prospect pool was much weaker back then, and the regime at the time was eager for some successful prospects. He's back in Europe now so maybe he puts it all together. But as a prospect he was always a small offensive D-Man who had never consistently produced offensively, so in other words, he was always a longshot.
Engstrom has a better frame and a much more solid base of skills than Norlinder. The only reason anyone is comparing them is because they are both Habs drafted Swedish defensemen. Their games aren't similar, and Engstrom had a much better Euro career pre-ELC.
Norlinder should be compared to other small offensive dmen who haven't ever had great success offensively, like Corey Schueneman or Kale Clague. Problem is, they are harder to find because most of those guys never make the NHL...
Engstrom has a better frame and a much more solid base of skills than Norlinder. The only reason anyone is comparing them is because they are both Habs drafted Swedish defensemen. Their games aren't similar, and Engstrom had a much better Euro career pre-ELC.
Norlinder should be compared to other small offensive dmen who haven't ever had great success offensively, like Corey Schueneman or Kale Clague. Problem is, they are harder to find because most of those guys never make the NHL...
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Don D
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Some good points, but I would not compare 5 ft 9 Mete to 6 ft Norlinder, size wise.
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For sure. Norlinder's more similar to guys like Clague and Schueneman in terms of smaller skilled dmen who never really excelled anywhere consistently offensively. Mete was all speed and skating (and was ultimately a better prospect and NHLer).
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I believe that 2022 can be better than 2007 if Slaf, Hutson, Beck and Engstrom reach their full potential, Slaf and Hutson are elite//star talent, Beck can be a elite 3C and Engstrom top 3-4 two-way D, maybe top pairing D.
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Maybe slaf and hutson hit as top liners then we can look back and talk. I hope so.
What we do know is that 2007 produced three top liners.
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It's going to be depend of Beck and Engstrom. I prefer Slaf to Pacioretty and Hutson to Subban. Beck and Engstrom vs McDonagh ?!?!
Right now Subban > Hutson and McDonagh is taking Beck Engstrom to lunch
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Yeah right now, but Hutson have talent and potential to have similar or better career than him.
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You might be be right but I think far too premature to conclude anything.
Slaf was getting slammed here until the last half of last season, and I still have enough fingers on my hands to count the number of games that Hutson has played..... it seems at times that you are as good as your last game around here, but I don't think it's the way to go.
They will have their ebbs and flows, but time will tell.
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Pacioretty over Slaf right now though.
Easily. Early MP67 use to drive to the net like he had to collect somebody's rent.
Shot was money. 30 G average.
Until Slaf gets there, its Pax, easily.
I sure hope not...didn't he get waived and picked up?so we're gonna trade him before he blossoms into a top d?
Redux91
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Quietly having a solid AHL rookie season
This guy was always going to be a bonus too, a surplus of LD riches, keep up the right track
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Early Patch? The first successful moment by Patch he was 21 which is 1 year older than Slaf and his first full successful season he was 22. Before that he was not a very effective NHLer. You say until Slaf gets there but at the same age Patch was not there yet. Patch had 6 goals in his first 86 NHL games age 19, 20 and 21.
And Slaf could stall there for all we know.
Until I see he's a consistent threat out there (it could be as soon as this year) and there's a 66 pts next to his name its still Max Pac to me.
We never know. Who wouldve known back then that 3rd overall Alex Galchenyuk would be out of the league before Brendan Gallagher? Who wouldve even thought Brendan wouldve been a multiple 30 G seasons player and not Alex?
Its just a little early for me to certify Juraj is a better player than Pac, who was a top 5 sniper in the league.
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For those who have watched the Rockets games, how good has he been defensively?
