This 2022 draft could end up being as good as any draft in Habs history.He's also a quicker study. Everytime I watch him he adds something to his game. Heck, sometimes he does it from one shift to the next.
Norlinder though, eeesh.
This 2022 draft could end up being as good as any draft in Habs history.He's also a quicker study. Everytime I watch him he adds something to his game. Heck, sometimes he does it from one shift to the next.
Norlinder though, eeesh.
This 2022 draft could end up being as good as any draft in Habs history.
You are spot on...the 84 draft led to the 86 Cup without a doubt. The 87 draft was instrumental in the 93 Cup win84, 87 and 07 are the three drafts that really jump out to me as the gold standard.
If we go by hall of fame production. Only 84 has one with Patrick roy, but the first 4 rounds in 87 all produced top line players, which is crazy.
Some good points, but I would not compare 5 ft 9 Mete to 6 ft Norlinder, size wise.Norlinder was always inconsistent, everywhere. The idea that he was some great defenseman in Europe is bogus. He had some great stretches, but he was never consistently very good. The prospect pool was much weaker back then, and the regime at the time was eager for some successful prospects. He's back in Europe now so maybe he puts it all together. But as a prospect he was always a small offensive D-Man who had never consistently produced offensively, so in other words, he was always a longshot.
Engstrom has a better frame and a much more solid base of skills than Norlinder. The only reason anyone is comparing them is because they are both Habs drafted Swedish defensemen. Their games aren't similar, and Engstrom had a much better Euro career pre-ELC.
Norlinder should be compared to guys like Victor Mete or other small offensive dmen who haven't ever had great success offensively, like Corey Schueneman or Kale Clague. Problem is, they are harder to find because most of those guys never make the NHL...
For sure. Norlinder's more similar to guys like Clague and Schueneman in terms of smaller skilled dmen who never really excelled anywhere consistently offensively. Mete was all speed and skating (and was ultimately a better prospect and NHLer).Some good points, but I would not compare 5 ft 9 Mete to 6 ft Norlinder, size wise.
84, 87 and 07 are the three drafts that really jump out to me as the gold standard.
If we go by hall of fame production. Only 84 has one with Patrick roy, but the first 4 rounds in 87 all produced top line players, which is crazy.
Maybe slaf and hutson hit as top liners then we can look back and talk. I hope so.I believe that 2022 can be better than 2007 if Slaf, Hutson, Beck and Engstrom reach their full potential, Slaf and Hutson are elite//star talent, Beck can be a elite 3C and Engstrom top 3-4 two-way D, maybe top pairing D.
Maybe slaf and hutson hit as top liners then we can look back and talk. I hope so.
What we do know is that 2007 produced three top liners.
Right now Subban > Hutson and McDonagh is taking Beck Engstrom to lunchIt's going to be depend of Beck and Engstrom. I prefer Slaf to Pacioretty and Hutson to Subban. Beck and Engstrom vs McDonagh ?!?!
Right now Subban > Hutson and McDonagh is taking Beck Engstrom to lunch
You might be be right but I think far too premature to conclude anything.It's going to be depend of Beck and Engstrom. I prefer Slaf to Pacioretty and Hutson to Subban. Beck and Engstrom vs McDonagh ?!?!
Pacioretty over Slaf right now though.It's going to be depend of Beck and Engstrom. I prefer Slaf to Pacioretty and Hutson to Subban. Beck and Engstrom vs McDonagh ?!?!
YepPacioretty over Slaf right now though.
Easily. Early MP67 use to drive to the net like he had to collect somebody's rent.
Shot was money. 30 G average.
Until Slaf gets there, its Pax, easily.
so we're gonna trade him before he blossoms into a top d?This kid is really good. His skating is impressive. He needs NA experience. He reminds me of Gustav Forsling, I player written off not that long ago.
I sure hope not...didn't he get waived and picked up?so we're gonna trade him before he blossoms into a top d?
Quietly having a solid AHL rookie season
oh yeah, even worse lolI sure hope not...didn't he get waived and picked up?
Early Patch? The first successful moment by Patch he was 21 which is 1 year older than Slaf and his first full successful season he was 22. Before that he was not a very effective NHLer. You say until Slaf gets there but at the same age Patch was not there yet. Patch had 6 goals in his first 86 NHL games age 19, 20 and 21.Pacioretty over Slaf right now though.
Easily. Early MP67 use to drive to the net like he had to collect somebody's rent.
Shot was money. 30 G average.
Until Slaf gets there, its Pax, easily.
And Slaf could stall there for all we know.Early Patch? The first successful moment by Patch he was 21 which is 1 year older than Slaf and his first full successful season he was 22. Before that he was not a very effective NHLer. You say until Slaf gets there but at the same age Patch was not there yet. Patch had 6 goals in his first 86 NHL games age 19, 20 and 21.