Post-Game Talk: A Swayman shut you out, Jets lose 3-0

[Jets 31]

I guess so, but..

What is sobering to me is that the current Jets seem to be emulating last years' Stars - in particular, a lack of offense. *If* this is the fallout product of Bonesian coaching, I don't know what to say.

Bowness has some to do with it that's for sure but he isn't telling Connor not to score anymore or Wheeler or Lowry or ect . We have too many guys not scoring more than once every 15 games. I love our PK though, maybe we should ask if we can play a man down all game.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Last Week Tampa benched their top line and they have won 2 out of the last 3 cups. Several coaches around the league have been critical of their teams play. And why be so focused on what May happen in the playoffs and just enjoy 13 games of meaningful hockey in late March and early April and see what happens? When we get there you can then tell everyone we have no chance.

Being critical and actually holding them accountable are two different things. If players aren’t doing what they are supposed to do, then bench them or healthy scratch them, don’t just complain to the media.

 

[kanadalainen]

Bowness has some to do with it that's for sure but he isn't telling Connor not to score anymore or Wheeler or Lowry or ect . We have too many guys not scoring more than once every 15 games. I love our PK though, maybe we should ask if we can play a man down all game.

I get that Bones is not actively squashing scoring productivity, simply suggesting that his systems are indirectly influencing the offensive productivity of those players we normally rely upon to put up the key points. We had similar output with half of our good players injured.

 

[hockeyarena]

so much of the issue is the power play, which i'm fairly certain the assistant coach runs. It's just way too slow moving the puck, no player movement at all, with no real point shot threat.

 

[Gm0ney]

Oh for sure. Neither team is mathematically eliminated. The thing is with Calgary, in addition to being only 3 points behind, they're also terrible and of course, when it comes to uncertain future probabilities, there's a wide open room for all of us fans to belly-up to the soap box and bicker. I can only speak for the percentages; if given a chance to bet on the Jets making the playoffs at even-money odds, I'd divert every discretionary dollar and ask the wife to float me an advance off my (err, 'our' ) next invoice to boot.

Calgary is not terrible...but they've had terrible goaltending this season, and they're almost as bad as the Jets when it comes to SH%.

 

[CorgisPer60]

so much of the issue is the power play, which i'm fairly certain the assistant coach runs. It's just way too slow moving the puck, no player movement at all, with no real point shot threat.

Isn't that coach off with a compressed disc and unable to coach right now? That coincides with their relatively flaccid PP as of late.

God, they've been dreadful.

 

[Stumbledore]

I get that Bones is not actively squashing scoring productivity, simply suggesting that his systems are indirectly influencing the offensive productivity of those players we normally rely upon to put up the key points. We had similar output with half of our good players injured.

And yet the same systems and the same good players were racking up points before Christmas.

 

[Slimy Sculpin]

Calgary is not terrible...but they've had terrible goaltending this season, and they're almost as bad as the Jets when it comes to SH%.

Although I’ve got a lot of family and friends in Cowtown, who are Flames fans, I loathe the Flames. However, give the Flames a goalie of Helly‘s quality and they’re well ahead of the Jets in the standings.

 

[Slimy Sculpin]

Playoff odds for the Jets are getting close to 50/50. Considering they were up around 97% only a few weeks ago, I think the writing is on the wall my friends.

Last night I saw a Bruins team who played "fast" and played that way with confidence. The Jets, on the other hand, looked like they were trying but we're playing a heck of a lot slower than the Bruins. There is/was a hesitancy in their game, an extra pass when a shot would have been the better play, stuff like that.

There may be a lot of talent on the Jets but it appears that hockey IQ is in short supply. Pionk, Ehlers and Connor come immediately to mind.

The Jets are a frustrating team to watch and support. It gets exhausting at times.

However, I’m in to the end, bitter as it might be.

Go Jets Go!

 

[Jack7222]

so much of the issue is the power play, which i'm fairly certain the assistant coach runs. It's just way too slow moving the puck, no player movement at all, with no real point shot threat.

True. If we had a good powerplay we'd be comfortably in the playoffs and seen as a dark horse imo.

 

[BoneDocUK]

Good lord -- those numbers are absurd. So much for in-game adjustment.

Our inability to score on the PP has been killing us and is going to ensure a quick exit in the POs if we don't sort it out.

Missed this one. Did PP1 look like they were getting chances at least?

 

[BoneDocUK]

I guess so, but..

What is sobering to me is that the current Jets seem to be emulating last years' Stars - in particular, a lack of offense. *If* this is the fallout product of Bonesian coaching, I don't know what to say.

Agree.

I'm a bit wary of "systems" coaches at this point.

It seems clear that the Jets score better off the rush than the cycle at this point. It also seems clear -- as it has for much of the season -- that we are being let down by a PP that is STILL based around KFC as triggerman and Wheeler as distributor.

You have the players you have. Past time to play them where and as they play best.

FFS.

 

[WolfHouse]

Good lord -- those numbers are absurd. So much for in-game adjustment.

Our inability to score on the PP has been killing us and is going to ensure a quick exit in the POs if we don't sort it out.

Missed this one. Did PP1 look like they were getting chances at least?

Not really no.

Nino is the only one crashing the net - Connor won't shoot for some reason and Scheif is a glide by guy now... we had some good 'one off' chances but there's no follow up.

Basically if we replace Scheif with a guy like Kopitar or Bergeron last game, we would have had 3 goals from their extra effort... Scheif was close but he chooses to avoid contact rather than bury the puck

 

[gojetsgo]

Good lord -- those numbers are absurd. So much for in-game adjustment.

Our inability to score on the PP has been killing us and is going to ensure a quick exit in the POs if we don't sort it out.

Missed this one. Did PP1 look like they were getting chances at least?

it looked better had chances and maintained zone time which is why pp1 got so much of the time as there was no point in changing when we had control of the puck in their zone

 

[BoneDocUK]

And yet the same systems and the same good players were racking up points before Christmas.

Definitely.

They seemed to play with much more fluidity at that point. I just don't think this team is at its best playing cautious hockey. And it seems like Bones like Maurice reverts to cautious hockey.

 

[gojetsgo]

Not really no.

Nino is the only one crashing the net - Connor won't shoot for some reason and Scheif is a glide by guy now... we had some good 'one off' chances but there's no follow up.

Basically if we replace Scheif with a guy like Kopitar or Bergeron last game, we would have had 3 goals from their extra effort... Scheif was close but he chooses to avoid contact rather than bury the puck

dude.. he literally sat in the crease and mcavoy got a stick on the puck he was shooting in a wide open net...

 

[WolfHouse]

For some perspective... our PP converted 21.1% of the time last year and 21.0% this year... it seems like our system has not changed at all - that's now three coaches that can't get these guys to play hard and net front...

 

[WolfHouse]

dude.. he literally sat in the crease and mcavoy got a stick on the puck he was shooting in a wide open net...

I know you're a Scheif defender and I'm not going to spend the rest of the season answering reactionary posts... but Scheif actually had three sure thing chances like that and didn't convert any of them - good 1Cs score those goals...

Scheif can get in position and anticipate the play but he does not make that critical second effort - I also see that in Connor now too...

I guess you'll say we played a great game and got goalied because we outshot the Bruins 36-23? We will just have to agree to disagree - I saw a team that was never in control and shooting from the perimeter - one and done...

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

What an absolute collapse if we blow this.

Have to beat Nashville.

 

[gojetsgo]

I know you're a Scheif defender and I'm not going to spend the rest of the season answering reactionary posts... but Scheif actually had three sure thing chances like that and didn't convert any of them - good 1Cs score those goals...

Scheif can get in position and anticipate the play but he does not make that critical second effort - I also see that in Connor now too...

I guess you'll say we played a great game and got goalied because we outshot the Bruins 36-23? We will just have to agree to disagree - I saw a team that was never in control and shooting from the perimeter - one and done...

rofl, the mcavoy play was extremely unlucky... oh that critical second effort like that ot goal he just scored vs florida...


maybe I seem like a scheifele defender because your default position is to go after scheifele every chance you get... or make up random conspiracy's


please post where I said we got goalied? all I said about this game is that the effort was there but the finishing wasn't...

 

[GeorgeJETson]

I guess my JoMo signed puck arriving yesterday jinxed the team. Sorry folks

At this point, if the Jerts miss the playoffs, I don't know whether to laugh or cry ...

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[Stumbledore]

Good lord -- those numbers are absurd. So much for in-game adjustment.

Our inability to score on the PP has been killing us and is going to ensure a quick exit in the POs if we don't sort it out.

Missed this one. Did PP1 look like they were getting chances at least?

Anybody else angry to see Wheeler at the top of this list?

 

[Inanna]

RE: Bowness on PLD:

What kind of injury does a player have that they, and not the coach or doctor, get to decide whether they want to play?

Crumbling backbone? Ailing enthusiasm? Disappearing gumption? Constipated competitiveness?

Whatever happened to a player being eager to get into the lineup and help their team?

(Yeah, I'm bitchy today. Deal with it.)

 

[WolfHouse]

rofl, the mcavoy play was extremely unlucky... oh that critical second effort like that ot goal he just scored vs florida...


maybe I seem like a scheifele defender because your default position is to go after scheifele every chance you get... or make up random conspiracy's


please post where I said we got goalied? all I said about this game is that the effort was there but the finishing wasn't...

One of your go to arguments is that the jets outshot the other team so there's no reason to criticize

Its always a weak forum argument when someone starts generalizing - like I go after Scheif every chance I get... blah blah. You can check my posts this season - I was stoked that Scheif was back to his 200' game.

If you DON'T think something changed in that Montreal/Toronto weekend then I guess I'd suggest you're a bit naive. The team including Scheif was playing Bowness system to a tee before those losses... and now we are freewheeling... and losing.

Its a shame to get dragged into one poster sitting like a chicken hawk waiting... most of this forum is super enjoyable debate.

Anybody else angry to see Wheeler at the top of this list?

More like numb.