Post-Game Talk: A successful season?

[gordonhught]

Please delete these MFKRs app off your phone.. Classless ..

Did better than the Leafs or any other team in Canada. In Canada, it is any team but the Oilers apparently.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Just responding to the last part. Its a problem on the team to play favorites. Everybody is a team mate, and it has gone on. This is a club that gets on its own players sometimes. All of Pulju, Smith, Koski, Bouchard have been in that spotlight, have seen the glares, some tongue lashings. Its a troubling aspect that its taken guys from outside the org like Keith, Kane, Hyman to be remedying this and remembering to not be hard on their brothers.

BOTH these players have lacked scoring confidence at times. They're not different in that regard. I find it troubling in present day that we get to such evaluation that one player is smiling a lot and one isn't. People are different and respond to bad luck or play differently. But Pulju this season, on the whole, has been a better player, and harder to play against. but I feel the team under Woody is moving well away from Pulju again. Woody of course would have more allegiance for Yama, he's coached him a lot. he hasn't had Pulju a lot and Pulju has REALLY had minutes severely curtailed since the coaching change. from the coach that is always saying that you have to play players to build their confidence to play. Except that seems to be just words. I dunno. Maybe we find out Pulju is reinjured. Its possible.

Gonna say as well that some shifts Yama is blasted out of a cannon. particularly if he's being sat or dropped a line. But there are lots of shifts where you don't see Yama either.

If I'm the Oilers I get comprehensive evaluation on Pulju bill of health and prospects before deciding what to do. Pulju has good 200ft instincts and attributes. When he's healthy and able to play pain free. Not sure whats going on.

Pulju is a weird player compared to Yams
Both have had struggles. Yamamoto, when he struggles, he reacts well to demotions, he busts his butt and fights for that too 6 spot back. Pulju just plays worse. Woodcroft did give him a bunch of chances but it wasn’t working and he just dropped.
I do think he has a nagging injury but man, you get demoted a line, force the coach to put you back up, don’t sulk.

 

[Mr Kot]

Please delete these MFKRs app off your phone.. Classless ..

AHAHAHAHA NOBODY WATCHES THE SCORE!

 

[gordonhught]

Pulju is a weird player compared to Yams
Both have had struggles. Yamamoto, when he struggles, he reacts well to demotions, he busts his butt and fights for that too 6 spot back. Pulju just plays worse. Woodcroft did give him a bunch of chances but it wasn’t working and he just dropped.
I do think he has a nagging injury but man, you get demoted a line, force the coach to put you back up, don’t sulk.

JP is an enigma. He is just a big soft player with bad hands and little hockey sense. If he was 5’ 10”, I am not sure he gets drafted.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Or anyone with a mental illness.

Man can we see an ounce of f***ing compassion on this board?

I literally have ADHD. I TAKE MEDICATION EVERY DAY FOR IT! LOL. OMG

 

[TheNumber4]

Classy stuff here:

Didn’t know Sports Networks did troll posts like this. What did Sportsnet post after the Leafs lost for the 100th time? Anything close to this? If not the bias is even more obvious.

 

[nafrelio]

Great season. What a fun ride with you all. This stings to get swept. Just needed a save and some better puck luck which the Avs seemed to get in spades.

 

[Oilhawks]

Please delete these MFKRs app off your phone.. Classless ..

I’ve never used their app, even though they have ads begging me to download it everywhere. They had some during the playoffs that were “cheering for Edmonton” themed (because they probably were too cheap to pay for the rights to advertise the Oilers).

Unprofessional garbage that fits right in with the abortion that is the twitterverse

Glad I haven’t supported Sportsnet / Rogers for years, what they posted was shit cringe as well

 

[McAsuno]

Sucks that they lost, but we’ll be back next year and the boys will be even more hungrier. Get this team a better goalie. Was fun af to celebrate with you all. Hope everyone sleeps well tonight.


PS: Go bolts/rangers

 

[CrazyJoeDavola]

Did better than the Leafs or any other team in Canada. In Canada, it is any team but the Oilers apparently.

Salty ass eastern sports networks that want Edm to fail in order to convince them that Matthews is just as good or better than McD. What a bunch of losers

 

[OfCorsiDid]

That’s society. Someone is always offended.

Thick skin went out of style about 20 years ago.

Edit - when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s, we said horrible things to each other. No one was really offended. Instead, you gave it back.

Yes I remember when we use to insult people over major life-altering illnesses they have.


...not

 

[gordonhught]

I literally have ADHD. I TAKE MEDICATION EVERY DAY FOR IT! LOL. OMG

Do you ever forget stuff due to ADHD? I know a woman with ADHD and she is high all the time.

I always wondered if people with ADHD lose focus and forget to put their shoes on and leave the house. Stuff like that.

 

[sepHF]

sucks to get swept but they could've won the past few games with an extra bounce or two. Proud of how the boys did this season, please get them a new goaltender.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Yes I remember when we use to insult people over major life-altering illnesses they have.


...not

Back in my day we insulted people all the time and nothing bad happened! No one cared! /s

Sigh.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Pulju is a weird player compared to Yams
Both have had struggles. Yamamoto, when he struggles, he reacts well to demotions, he busts his butt and fights for that too 6 spot back. Pulju just plays worse. Woodcroft did give him a bunch of chances but it wasn’t working and he just dropped.
I do think he has a nagging injury but man, you get demoted a line, force the coach to put you back up, don’t sulk.

Its my take, and this is speculation, that Pulju burned some bridges here so he has less rope with the team and its players. I get it. But this is a club with something wrong with the team mojo where guys like Keith, Kane, and Hyman had to step in at times and remind that EVERYBODY be supported and accepted on a club and that you don't play that game of lacking patience with other players. Pulju works hard when given minutes. he works a 200ft game. He has about the lowest GA of any forward on the team. Not by accident. The guy works all zones more than given credit for and the first guy that will fly back on back checks.

Theres a real distortion in what people see in big vs small players. People often feel the smaller player is more effective working harder, doing more. It isn't always the case and hockey tends to be a big boy game. the upside of Pulju is still significant. There would be interest in him.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

I literally have ADHD. I TAKE MEDICATION EVERY DAY FOR IT! LOL. OMG

Sorry to hear about that. That does provide some needed context.

I'm sorry to be rather sensitive on the topic of mental illness, but I have seen the worst of what can come to pass.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Do you ever forget stuff due to ADHD? I know a woman with ADHD and she is high all the time.

I always wondered if people with ADHD lose focus and forget to put their shoes on and leave the house. Stuff like that.

You lose focus a lot. Very easily distracted but always busy.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

I’ve tried to tone down my disdain over Nurse’s play until the season was over (I wasn’t always successful). I figured if he really was hurt we’d hear about it immediately and if he wasn’t we’d hear nothing. We’ve heard pretty quickly so I guess that’s a reason for optimism. I still think our defensemen as a group are terrible and changing that is where the focus needs to be this off season.

I think we saw what a healthy Nurse can do for this team that last playoff game against Winnipeg. Clearly he was deficient this playoff series and we now know the severity of his injury. Despite that, the coach still called his number most often for team high d-corp minutes and critical PK time. I don't fully understand why he was put into that situation which was exposed especially so against the super elite Aves with their speed and aggressive counter attack play. However this defense without Nurse is a weakness that must get better for hope of getting back to this third series of Stanley Cup playoff grind.

There will be better opportunity to dissect this team's future and what is needed to get back to this level of Cup play. Tonight closes the book on a great run where this team broke through entry level playoffs, smoked their arch rival and hit a team built to win this year.

 

[MessierII]

They were missing their 3rd best defender, a top 6 winger and their starting goalie.

Kuemper played like shit in game 1 cause he was still having blurry vision from his injury. If he is healthy we don’t score near as much.

2 of those injuries were blessings in disguise. Francouz has been better than Kuemper this playoffs. Kuemper was on the bench tonight he’s back and they’re still playing Francouz. Also Girard has sucked in the playoffs for the Avs. He gets destroyed in down low battles this time of year Byram came in and played unreal.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Its my take, and this is speculation, that Pulju burned some bridges here so he has less rope with the team and its players. I get it. But this is a club with something wrong with the team mojo where guys like Keith, Kane, and Hyman had to step in at times and remind that EVERYBODY be supported and accepted on a club and that you don't play that game of lacking patience with other players. Pulju works hard when given minutes. he works a 200ft game. He has about the lowest GA of any forward on the team. Not by accident. The guy works all zones more than given credit for and the first guy that will fly back on back checks.

Theres a real distortion in what people see in big vs small players. People often feel the smaller player is more effective working harder, doing more. It isn't always the case and hockey tends to be a big boy game. the upside of Pulju is still significant. There would be interest in him.

He definitely doesn’t have the most rope, defensively he is quite strong but offensively, I have never seen a player waste so many chances. I think his big issue is he sees himself as an auto top 6 player while with his knack of wasting glorious chances constantly, he is more of a 3rd liner right now and he clearly hates not being given that top icetime.

I definitely don’t think he should be given away or traded for whatever. But if we had a change of scenery trade for an equal player I wouldn’t hate it. He should at least get another season. Woodcroft is a smart guy and I think he can get a lot out of Pulju but I think he needs more time with him in the summer to get him to watch tape and learn what he needs to do.

I think at minimum give him a full year here again to see if he can be more consistent.

I think with Pulju he isn’t the fastest learner and doesn’t adapt the fastest to a coach. So it was hard on him having a mid season change, and cause Woodcroft was trying to salvage the season, he couldn’t help Pulju as much as he needed too

2 of those injuries were blessings in disguise. Francouz has been better than Kuemper this playoffs. Kuemper was on the bench tonight he’s back and they’re still playing Francouz. Also Girard has sucked in the playoffs for the Avs. He gets destroyed in down low battles this time of year Byram came in and played unreal.

Kuemper has been better than Francouz but struggled after he got the stick to the face.

 

[RalphKing]

Stings now, but this was a successful season for sure. Making the conference finals is a big deal.

I do worry about how we can get better next year considering our cap situation, but I’m hopeful. I can’t see how we possibly re-sign Kane.

 

[Useless plug]

Think you only get a Makar by drafting or when they are past their prime. Our tanking was poorly timed. Actually not really, we got McDavid and Drai Just needed 1 more though!!

Fix the damn goaltending should be doable if we are still not determined to make Smith the starter.

JP was drafted in the same spot as Makar, just one year earlier.

 

[DarksideGhost]

Me thinks that's JPs last game as an Oiler

one of the worst Oilers draft pick next to Yakapov

 

[Dirt McGintty]

On a more serious note. Cupshe ads are so much better than tow fungus ads.

 

[Captain Fantastic]

Classy stuff here:

Pos SN or 66.. Which to choose from this point forward. Hmmm