A John Tavares Vegas Style Solution

[LeafSteel]

I thought your Vegas solution would have been giving away Tavares to Carolina.

I thought this was the Vegas solution being proposed.

 

[rumman]

Just a little trivia question.
Where do you think this scary bad centre who was near league leader in faceoffs finished for goals from the centre position? True centre so not including Willy, Verhaeghe, Nugent Hopkins types.

JT was 11th
points he was 15th

For those painting Tavares as a bad player you are incorrect.
Bad contract and bad players are very different.

at this point in his career he should be on the wing, or 3rd line C, that would be better utilization imo.........

 

[Stephen]

I thought this was the Vegas solution being proposed.

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Max Pacioretty.

 

[rumman]

Max Pacioretty.

Rather keep JT however overpaid he is he’s still a good player when you ignore his salary…….

 

[notDatsyuk]

Just a little trivia question.
Where do you think this scary bad centre who was near league leader in faceoffs finished for goals from the centre position? True centre so not including Willy, Verhaeghe, Nugent Hopkins types.

JT was 11th
points he was 15th

For those painting Tavares as a bad player you are incorrect.
Bad contract and bad players are very different.

At even strength, 35th in goals and 48th in points, despite playing mainly with the RW who was 3rd in goals and 5th in points, and sometimes with the RW who was 6th in points.

To look at it another way, while they were usually on the ice together at even strength, Willy had more goals than JT had assists, and more than twice as many assists as JT had goals.

Yes, he's good at faceoffs and at standing in the slot during PPs, but not much beyond that.

 

[Budz]

Doug McLean suggested the LTIR for Tavares today on Kyper/Bourne.

 

[rumman]

Doug McLean suggested the LTIR for Tavares today on Kyper/Bourne.

Great way to treat your players, we’ll agree to a deal until things go south, then we’ll jettison you like a used bandage and you’ll do as your told. Who in their right mind would want to work for a organization that would do that? I think a large amount of the posters here are due wfor a course in ethics……….

 

[HockeyVirus]

Tavares has 2 years left on his deal. We will be fine. Worst case he is a winger his last year of the deal and then we get a ton of cap space.

I also don't get talking about a PPG center as if he is a Vlasic who isn't an NHLer and needs to be dealt with. He is overpaid but nothing franchise crippling like some like to go on

 

[Rob Brown]

0% chance they just tell him to sit home until mid April when he isn't actually hurt.

 

[Arzak]

0% chance they just tell him to sit home until mid April when he isn't actually hurt.

This thread could hurt his feelings that much.

 

[Funk21]

not sure what is crazier, thinking a PPG C is a 3C or thinking you can just LTIR someone for fun.

If someone got injured and we can time it for game 1, I hope we do but we can't just do it because we want to.

Where does JT get his points? He is slow of
Foot. Yes he is elite level smart but he doesn’t do the things we need him to do like going to the dirty areas. At this point he is a LW that can fill in at C if needed and will play even strength and PP. Another 11 million dollar winger essentially.

 

[Gallagbi]

Where does JT get his points? He is slow of
Foot. Yes he is elite level smart but he doesn’t do the things we need him to do like going to the dirty areas. At this point he is a LW that can fill in at C if needed and will play even strength and PP. Another 11 million dollar winger essentially.

He's constantly in the dirty areas. Thats the reason he can still score

 

[Maple Leaf]

Nice production
Trade for a faster center

 

[AustonMarner]

Looks like the Leafs options are down to either Treliving "asks" Tavares to waive no trade/ stupid compensation trade occurs/ team flounders for the next 2 years or Leafs might need a Tanya Harding style solution

The only other option is that "Brad Treliving" is actually Kyle Dubas 20 years into the future coming back to right his wrongs and coupled with the ability to have now "seen the future" he's secretly here to help the Leafs finally win the Stanley Cup! Ala Biff from 'Back to the future II' lmfao

Poor Leafs fans

 

[WillyC]

Imagine the folks who take this seriously?

people actually think a perfectly healthy Tavares would agree to this nonsense?

I’m predicting JT scores 150+ points over the next 2 seasons… then signs a team friendly contract under $2 million.

the haters will continue to hate.

 

[Enniskillen]

“We don’t need you” chants will LTIR him for good.

 

[Gabriel426]

There is no way any players will voluntarily go on the LTIR for a WHOLE season.
If he is injured till March or something, I can see him being convince to take his time and come back in the playoffs.

 

[mapleleaf979]

1) Tavares cant be captain next year.
2) Leafs can not win in the next 2 yrs with that 11 million and that guy in the top 6.

The only solution is play a hard line with Tavares and essentially force him out, tell him he isnt the captain and ask him to waive his no trade. He wont go thru 2 years of being benched or placed on long term injury. He is a 5 million dollar 3rd line center as this point. BUsiness is business get him out of here, retain some salary and give Matthews or Reilly the "C"

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Good Lord.

This is crazy.

Tavares is the ball and chain, and his boat anchor contract is what set this team back. The moment he signed that contract it was over. Now he's got two years left on his deal while the team surrounding him continues to deteriorate every year.

But paying him $11M to sit at home as a healthy scratch is doing no one any favours.

The only way out of that contract is time.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Tavares is the ball and chain, and his boat anchor contract is what set this team back.

It was the first thing Dubas did.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

It was the first thing Dubas did.

That wouldn't have been a decision Dubas could have made himself.

It's pretty unbelievable they torpedoed the team that fast.

A lack of foresight is an indictment on everyone who sat at that table and decided there was a shortcut to success.

 

[the Mighty Oak]

That wouldn't have been a decision Dubas could have made himself.

It's pretty unbelievable they torpedoed the team that fast.

A lack of foresight is an indictment on everyone who sat at that table and decided there was a shortcut to success.

I blame Shanahan. for this mess.

 

[ULF_55]

LTIR him for the season.

Boom we get an awesome 3C in the playoffs.

It is gross negligence if you are a GM and not using the LTIR loophole to "play within the rules" (legally cheat)

Has to be strategic ...

I'm sure Tavares is going to be healthy until February 28th., 2024.

Stretching the wrong way 10:00 AM on the 28th., just 2 days before the deadline ... what a sad break ...

 

[therealkoho]

This could be an early contender for thread of the summer.
It certainly 'passes all the tests'.

Even the smell test?

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

I blame Shanahan. for this mess.

After the Montreal loss I've been pointing the finger at ownership.

The first couple years of the Dubas regime is on Shanahan.

After that it's on the moron who kept them all around do long.