Prospect Info: 9OA: Nate Danielson

[The Zetterberg Era]

Don't think there's any way they'd put Danielson on a line without another legit center. Most likely he's getting stapled to Compher's side whenever he makes the team.

I know this will upset people but it is more likely to be Copp for the face off advantages. I expect Compher will do something similar with Kasper as well when he breaks in. But if you stagger then this way you should own a massive advantage in the dot where they always have the dominant backwards draw.

 

[Gniwder]

I know this will upset people but it is more likely to be Copp for the face off advantages. I expect Compher will do something similar with Kasper as well when he breaks in. But if you stagger then this way you should own a massive advantage in the dot where they always have the dominant backwards draw.

Copp's career average is 51.7%, as is his Wings average. He had a good season as far as FO last season and Compher had a career worst year. The only way the kids improve FO is by doing it, Joey improve a lot last season.

Copp's FO abilities don't make up for his lack of offense, might as well let the kids learn how to take FOs. What I want to see this preseason is Nate lined up with a legit scoring winger (or two) so we can see where he's at on the offensive zone.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Copp's career average is 51.7%, as is his Wings average. He had a good season as far as FO last season and Compher had a career worst year. The only way the kids improve FO is by doing it, Joey improve a lot last season.

Copp's FO abilities don't make up for his lack of offense, might as well let the kids learn how to take FOs. What I want to see this preseason is Nate lined up with a legit scoring winger (or two) so we can see where he's at on the offensive zone.

I am talking about the handedness for the draw. Compher and Danielson are both right shot draws. Now if Ras is there you have the other side taken, but again then he takes minimum amounts and ideally Kane and Tank are split up in this world. The switching to dominant side is pretty popular around the league these days.

You also can tweak roles in zones while they continue to develop. The point was I saw the pre-planning as Copp with Danielson and Compher with Kasper. Now Copp core injury certainly seems to have changed that. But both players having extensive wing history as F1 forecheckers that also played heavy shutdown roles which seemed ideal for breaking in our younger centers.

 

[Gniwder]

I am talking about the handedness for the draw. Compher and Danielson are both right shot draws. Now if Ras is there you have the other side taken, but again then he takes minimum amounts and ideally Kane and Tank are split up in this world. The switching to dominant side is pretty popular around the league these days.

You also can tweak roles in zones while they continue to develop. The point was I saw the pre-planning as Copp with Danielson and Compher with Kasper. Now Copp core injury certainly seems to have changed that. But both players having extensive wing history as F1 forecheckers that also played heavy shutdown roles which seemed ideal for breaking in our younger centers.

If I'm bringing in a new center to be the future 2C, ideally I would want better wingers than Raz or Copp who are bottom 6 players. Joey got stapled to Gagner's hip when he entered the league, and now he looks like Sam V2.0.

I'm not sure how good they'll be in terms of scoring, but I'm not too concerned defensively with Nate or Marco. Need guys to teach them offense, not defense.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

If I'm bringing in a new center to be the future 2C, ideally I would want better wingers than Raz or Copp who are bottom 6 players. Joey got stapled to Gagner's hip when he entered the league, and now he looks like Sam V2.0.

I'm not sure how good they'll be in terms of scoring, but I'm not too concerned defensively with Nate or Marco. Need guys to teach them offense, not defense.

I feel you have a good point here, because if my memory serves me right, Larkin originally was on Zetterberg's wing and that certainly seemed to help him.

Problem is, Wings can't put every prospect we have with our only truly good center Larkin.

Danielson and/or Kasper might have to find success another way.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

Now Copp core injury certainly seems to have changed that

wait. did copp suffer another core injury? or are you talking about the one from 2 years ago?

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

wait. did copp suffer another core injury? or are you talking about the one from 2 years ago?

The same one from a while ago, not all guys come all the way back from it.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

Showing his offensive attacking very well today. These plays are like how he had done in junior - now he's adjusting and exploiting AHLers with his same strengths

First clip, forechecks with speed and the defender coughs it up just for Watson to fire it to Hanas for the goal

On the final clip in OT, I see he got stick checked but I wanna see that pass tape-to-tape next time. Anyways, very short time into his pro career I'm pleased with him gaining traction this quick

https://x.com/i/web/status/1850638110176198661

https://x.com/i/web/status/1850621248797110766

https://x.com/i/web/status/1850633265960341553

https://x.com/i/web/status/1850653869627367701

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

Our boy had a solid weekend, he is coming along nicely.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Good to see the adjustment is starting to come.

 

[Nnowski]

Looking good and not getting any points is the Danielson special

 

[JediOrderPizza]

WHL 199GP and 217pts. But sure no points is his specialty.

 

[jkutswings]

WHL 199GP and 217pts. But sure no points is his specialty.

Woah woah woah...199 games? What, are you crazy? That's WAY too big a sample size for HFB discussions.

Everybody knows that sweeping conclusions are best made when you can count the number of shifts on one hand.

 

[Oddbob]

WHL 199GP and 217pts. But sure no points is his specialty.

To be fair, those aren't all that great for junior hockey and top prospects. Not agreeing with his point, just that less than a ppg for any top pick isn't really amazing.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Well you guys can talk about that, I was proving the fact that he indeed did score points, when it was said he has a history of never doing it.

I wasn't expecting Bedard stat lines when I looked or anything.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

2pts in 3 games this last weekend.

Setting the world on fire? No

But no points? Not true.

 

[jkutswings]

To be fair, those aren't all that great for junior hockey and top prospects. Not agreeing with his point, just that less than a ppg for any top pick isn't really amazing.

To be fair, 217 points in 199 games is 1.09ppg. Still not amazing for typical junior production of high picks, but I have very low concern about how Nate's game will transfer to the NHL.

 

[Oddbob]

To be fair, 217 points in 199 games is 1.09ppg. Still not amazing for typical junior production of high picks, but I have very low concern about how Nate's game will transfer to the NHL.

I realize I misread it as 199 pts in 217 GP, which is why I mentioned ppg. Still not great either way. Though his other attributes are what is supposed to make him an NHLer one day anyhow.

 

[RedHawkDown]

2pts in 3 games this last weekend.

Setting the world on fire? No

But no points? Not true.

edit:
nvm i was wrong

 

[heyfolks]

I still see ND as better today than Kasper, but that discussion is now rear view mirror. What I don't get is the sour notes he strikes with some people on the board. The kid isn't going to be an offensive juggernaut but he plays a complete game and is an ideal #2 center with high scoring winger types.

I am not comparing him to Adam Oates, because he will be much better. Wait until January when this kid comes up and starts feeding Kaner and Tarasenko. It'll be magical.

 

[RedHawkDown]

They should really try playing Lombardi on Danielson's wing.

 

[lilidk]

The more I think about this pick, the more I hate it.

Late birthday, still not an overly impressive player in the WHL. There was so, so much talent on the board.

This one will probably feel even worse than Rasmussen and Zadina in a few years.

You are wrong about Zadina, not sure about Rasmussen, but I believe he will be better than him