I would hope he can hit 35 points in a league where 10+ players are breaking 100 points, in a situation where he's not getting 3rd line minutes like Datsyuk was.
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I would hope he can hit 35 points in a league where 10+ players are breaking 100 points, in a situation where he's not getting 3rd line minutes like Datsyuk was.
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And to loop back around, all these arguments your trying to make are to show that 23 year old Zegras is not REMOTELY as good as 23 year old Datsyuk, not just that he was simply better?
You're also bypassing Zegras putting up more than twice as much points in the best league in the world than Datsyuk put up in a tier 2 or 3 league.
Ill be shocked if zegras every reaches datysuk's ceiling but Zegras was the better player in their early career.
Comparing scoring between two different leagues is quite the argument.
Anthony Mantha was a two time 50 goal scorer before he was 20!*
*In the QMJHL.
And to loop back around, are we still ignoring that Datsyuk on his worst day is still miles ahead defensively than Zegras at his best?
Ahh yes. Comparing two professional leagues is the same as comparing a pro league to a junior league. Give me a break.
It really is ironic that you bring up a player putting up big numbers in a lower level of hockey because datysuk was putting up lesser numbers than zegras in a lesser league.
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Nate Danielson.
Just thought I'd start a tangent.
Just thought I'd start a tangent.
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You're right, comparing NHL scoring to KHL scoring (Two completely different leagues) is totally rational.
Kotkaniemi was better than Raymond at 18 years old because he scored more in the NHL than Raymond in the SHL.
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There was a 7 game span in 2001 when Datsyuk was -6 with 0 points and a total of 2 shots.
Very sure that on his WORST day Datsyuk was not MILES better defensively than Zegras at his BEST
You're right, comparing NHL scoring to KHL scoring (Two completely different leagues) is totally rational.
Kotkaniemi was better than Raymond at 18 years old because he scored more in the NHL than Raymond in the SHL.
From a points per game angle they put up similar numbers albeit Kotkaniemi did it at a higher level of hockey so I would say it was more impressive.
From a points per game angle Zegras was quite a bit better in a better league than datysuk for the ages of 20-22. Development isn't linear and being the better player at a younger age doesn't mean he will be the better player in the long run.
But I am done with this. TIL putting up lesser points in a lesser league is better than putting up more points in a better league. Fascinating stuff.
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this smells like Rory Fitzpatrick ad featuring Nicklas Lindstrom. Someone needs to add it.
sepster
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Take it to the Compher thread, nerd!
sepster
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I would love if he were to stick with 89.
29 will always be a goalie number in my eyes. Plus, every Wings forward (Jason Williams, Landon Ferraro, Steve Ott, Brendan Perlini) who has worn it has been garbage.
Who amongst us hasn't gotten sucked into a weird tangent that you don't really care about while bickering about sports.
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19 and 91 for Yzerman and Fedorov.
29 and 92 for Danielson and Kasper. I’m just waiting for the photos on ice.
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Yep. Comparing stats at specific ages tell us that Zegras > Datsyuk and Zadina is > Kucherov.
sepster
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I remember when this photo came out (I have a copy) and it was such an exciting time for Wings' fans. The cool part about this photo (aside from it being Yzerman and Fedorov) is that WAS 1991!!
I certainly hope we're not waiting until 2992 for Danielson and Kasper to make an impact.
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I remember when this photo came out (I have a copy) and it was such an exciting time for Wings' fans. The cool part about this photo (aside from it being Yzerman and Fedorov) is that WAS 1991!!
I certainly hope we're not waiting until 2992 for Danielson and Kasper to make an impact.
Really nice picture.
Especially that 19+91 thing at 1991.
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Man, the ducks have been bad but I think they'd hold up pretty well against a 2001 KHL team
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I doubt highly that Zegras would put up 35 pts playing 3rd/4th line and no pp time on the 01-02 Wings. If Datsyuk put up 35 pts with no pp time and low minutes, imagine he cruises to 50 at least and probably more with higher usage and pp time.
