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PGT: 9/21 North America vs Sweden - North America wins 4-3 in OT but Sweden advances

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so much complaining in this thread its unreal

most exciting team in the tourney by a long shot... if they miss out then so be it. They did their best and provided non stop entertainment for everyone
 
Signed said:
Hes a good 2 way defender but he is NOT anywhere close to being the GOD the Arizona fans think he is.

I thinks its kind of endearing for a fanbase to love their guy but they take the prize for homer worship of any player in the league by their own fans.
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He is great in arizona, he just do not come anywhere close to that level in the swedish jersey. But he hasnt been bad in this tournament either.
 
Divine said:
Instead, Sweden went 2-1 and they're advancing. While (potentially) another 2-1 team won't be.
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2-0-1

Divine said:
They all played 3 in 4. Team NA had less rest than Russia in their game (Team NA played the late game).

Most people prefer 3 point regulation games. It rewards teams for trying to win in regulation, rather than clogging up the neutral zone for the extra point.
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No they didn't. Finland will have played 3 in 5. Czechs and Canada 3 in 6. Russia and North America had back to backs, but against each other (meaning not much more/less rested), as opposed to Sweden being the only team except Canada to play a b2b against a rested team - with Sweden playing 3 in 4 days and Canada 3 in 6. No way you can argue anyone came even close to having a worse schedule than Sweden.

Confucius said:
Cool you're in the Semis! Big day in Sweden. Maybe someday you'll win a tournament. Then buckle up party time.
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Last 5 Olympics: Canada 3 wins, Sweden 2 wins, Czech Republic 1. We'll take it.
 
Clark4Ever said:
It is going to be a travesty if North America doesn't advance. The kids have earned it.

Finland has nothing but pride and a hatred of Russia to play for...hopefully that will be enough to motivate them tomorrow.
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What? The only travesty when it comes to NA is that they are in the tournament, it would be a even bigger travesty if this joke team take a spot from a real team even in the playoff.
 
Clark4Ever said:
It is going to be a travesty if North America doesn't advance. The kids have earned it.
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Earned it.. They're the only team granted a pre-rested game against a team playing back to back. If you can't even finish in the upper half with an advantage like that you haven't earned smack.
 
ulvvf said:
What? The only travesty when it comes to NA is that they are in the tournament, it would be a even bigger travesty if this joke team take a spot from a real team even in the playoff.
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Lol you mad because Swedeon lost to kids
 
ulvvf said:
What? The only travesty when it comes to NA is that they are in the tournament, it would be a even bigger travesty if this joke team take a spot from a real team even in the playoff.
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Sweden lost to a joke team then, that's pretty embarrassing
 
490 nm said:
Lol you mad because Swedeon lost to kids
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I don't agree with his point, but the loss meant absolutely nothing. The only thing keeping Sweden from putting out a bag of pucks as goalie in OT was that Russia would've invaded Gotland.
 
490 nm said:
Lol you mad because Swedeon lost to kids
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Not really, since sweden won the group, so that I do not care much about. But it is a joke team and it is shame for the whole sport that this joke teams is in the tournament at all and the more succesfull they are the bigger the travesty becomes, since that would on expense on real teams. All star team do not belong in a so called international tournaments. It do not matter if they are good or not or if they play a fun hockey or not etc, that is besides the point.
 
BetterOffWithFedorov said:
Sweden lost to a joke team then, that's pretty embarrassing
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I do not think you understood the point.

What made them a joke team has nothing to with them being bad or good, it is a all star team, and all star team do not belong in a so called international tournament. It do not make it better if they are the best in the tournament and play the most fun games, none of that make it betters, it only make the joke worse, because then it become more in your face. the shame only falls on those that have created them.

Wonder why we do not have tons of all star teams in football world cup? They could probably fix alot of different all star teams that played better and more fun the most of the real national teams there too.

I can see it little bit as karma that USA goes out by losing against one of this joke teams
 
ulvvf said:
He is great in arizona, he just do not come anywhere close to that level in the swedish jersey. But he hasnt been bad in this tournament either.
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He definitely plays with much more intensity in the NHL games. OEL likes a physical game, it seems to get him going.
 
Yakushev72 said:
Regardless of who wins tomorrow, 3 of the 4 best European nations will be eliminated by tomorrow night. This only goes to illustrate the massive disadvantage that European teams play under in this tournament. Hostile crowds, hostile refs, all games on the road. The hybrid teams like NA and Europe can cherry pick players and have obvious advantages in talent and depth over national team programs in countries that are either small of lack resources. That has to frustrating for the Czechs, Finns, Swedes ands Russians who participate in this tournament. It is an unfair competitive balance.
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The refs favoured the Swedes today. Grasping for something that isn't there.

Overall the reffing has been solid, far better than IIHF reffing.
 
Fossy21 said:
Or I pressed a key millimetres from another key that would've made sense there. 6 olympics. 6. Need help comprehending anything else?
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But there's only been 5 best on best Olympics. Why include the 94 Olympics?
 
snipes said:
The refs favoured the Swedes today. Grasping for something that isn't there.

Overall the reffing has been solid, far better than IIHF reffing.
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They started the game giving Canada 2 PP's (one which wasn't enforced since they scored on the delayed) and a penalty shot (weak call). They missed a few calls in Sweden's favour (and a few going the other way), but then called 3 additional PP's in Canada's favour in the second period (to none for Sweden), including giving Söderberg 2 minutes for trying to get his stick in the crease, barely nudging Gaudreau, who flew as if he was hit from behind by Chara.

Strålman could've had matching two's at the end, but Trochek could easily have got 5 for his boarding play. OEL's penalty was clear as the day, but it didn't make sense for him to attack Eichel out of the blue. Made more sense when it was revealed Eichel had elbowed a teammate of his. Refs were equally bad both ways. So you're both wrong.

snipes said:
But there's only been 5 best on best Olympics. Why include the 94 Olympics?
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The guy said "come back when you've won something". The Miracle on Ice wasn't "something" because it wasn't best on best? Canada still had a more talented team than Sweden that year (94).
(he actually said "Maybe someday you'll win a tournament", same difference, or marginally worse)
 
Fossy21 said:
The guy said "come back when you've won something". The Miracle on Ice wasn't "something" because it wasn't best on best? Canada still had a more talented team than Sweden that year (94).
(he actually said "Maybe someday you'll win a tournament", same difference, or marginally worse)
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Yeah I went back and read that, Sweden always has a strong team. No need for a comment like that.
 
voiceofreason666 said:
I agree. His defensive abilities are abysmal compared to the latter two...
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You must be new to the sport of hockey. He was easily the best defenseman for Sweden this tournament.

And those Sedins....boy, they have some kind of radar to find each other anywhere on the ice. Amazing. But when it comes to locating the other 3 members of their team on the ice - especially the defensemen - they are as blind as bats. Dozen of great chances this tournament wasted.
 
Sooo that final (=last) game in Calgary 1988... do we like totally owe the Silver to the Red Machine who handed it to us, or were we just that good?

A friend needs to know before tonight's game.
 
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