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PGT: 9/21 North America vs Sweden - North America wins 4-3 in OT but Sweden advances

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Yakushev72 said:
Regardless of who wins tomorrow, 3 of the 4 best European nations will be eliminated by tomorrow night. This only goes to illustrate the massive disadvantage that European teams play under in this tournament. Hostile crowds, hostile refs, all games on the road. The hybrid teams like NA and Europe can cherry pick players and have obvious advantages in talent and depth over national team programs in countries that are either small of lack resources. That has to frustrating for the Czechs, Finns, Swedes ands Russians who participate in this tournament. It is an unfair competitive balance.
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Yakushev72 said:
Regardless of who wins tomorrow, 3 of the 4 best European nations will be eliminated by tomorrow night. This only goes to illustrate the massive disadvantage that European teams play under in this tournament. Hostile crowds, hostile refs, all games on the road. The hybrid teams like NA and Europe can cherry pick players and have obvious advantages in talent and depth over national team programs in countries that are either small of lack resources. That has to frustrating for the Czechs, Finns, Swedes ands Russians who participate in this tournament. It is an unfair competitive balance.
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Umm when Russia wins tomorrow and advances I'd love to know which 3 European nations are eliminated. It would only be Finland and the Czechs
 
Sorey said:
Sweden beat russia and got more points. Team gimmick has themselves to blame.
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Well again the Kidz didn't understand how crucial winning in regulation was...cause nobody who should have known communicated that to them...obviously

The Boyz are all thinking hey we won, we got it done...BUT NO...it took a Sportnet guy to explain what a precarious position they put themselves in to MacKinnon...

P.S: Those YG's did themselves proud and were the talk of the tourney...they lost one game, by one goal, to Russia who they outshot 46-25...and must have fired about 50 shots at King Henrique today , who surely saved 3kr's bacon

I think the disparaging gimmick moniker should be out the window...if they haven't earned your respect who cares?...Cause the whole hockey world -- leastways all those who matter --- sure stood up and took notice!!!
 
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BruinsBtn said:
Listening to MacKinnon, he didn't know they needed a regulation win. That tells me the coaches didn't know either. That's a big fail.
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Really? It is not a real team anyway, but how can they not be informed about that? That is pretty bad.
 
Yakushev72 said:
Regardless of who wins tomorrow, 3 of the 4 best European nations will be eliminated by tomorrow night. This only goes to illustrate the massive disadvantage that European teams play under in this tournament. Hostile crowds, hostile refs, all games on the road. The hybrid teams like NA and Europe can cherry pick players and have obvious advantages in talent and depth over national team programs in countries that are either small of lack resources. That has to frustrating for the Czechs, Finns, Swedes ands Russians who participate in this tournament. It is an unfair competitive balance.
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Did team Europe cherry pick any swedes? Or Russians? Or Finns
 
Yakushev72 said:
Regardless of who wins tomorrow, 3 of the 4 best European nations will be eliminated by tomorrow night. This only goes to illustrate the massive disadvantage that European teams play under in this tournament. Hostile crowds, hostile refs, all games on the road. The hybrid teams like NA and Europe can cherry pick players and have obvious advantages in talent and depth over national team programs in countries that are either small of lack resources. That has to frustrating for the Czechs, Finns, Swedes ands Russians who participate in this tournament. It is an unfair competitive balance.
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Yeah......no. :laugh:
 
Scotty B said:
Well again the Kidz didn't understand how crucial winning in regulation was...cause nobody who should have known communicated that to them...

The Boyz are all thinking hey we won, we got it done...BUT NO...it took a Sportnet guy to explain what a precarious position they put themselves in to MacKinnon...
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Stop making excuses for them. They are profelssional hockey players. If they dont check the rules before the game it is their problem.
 
Sorey said:
Stop making excuses for them. They are profelssional hockey players. If they dont check the rules before the game it is their problem.
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They're only problem is playing hockey. It's the management's responsibility to make clear expectations. Their expectations should have been a regulation win.
 
Clark4Ever said:
It is going to be a travesty if North America doesn't advance. The kids have earned it.

Finland has nothing but pride and a hatred of Russia to play for...hopefully that will be enough to motivate them tomorrow.
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Nonsense. They have earned just about nothing at this point. They lost against Russia and failed to win against Sweden in regulation. All they can hope for is for Russia to choke against Finland.
 
slobbergob said:
They're only problem is playing hockey. It's the management's responsibility to make clear expectations. Their expectations should have been a regulation win.
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Team NA messed up. There are no excuses really. The fans knew the rules before the game and so should the players. It is not exactly noble prize equations.
 
They had a fun run while it lasted. It's a shame we'll likely never get to see McDavid and Matthews together ever again, they were both fantastic this tournament.

Ah well, now we get to look forward to an exciting 1-0 game in the finals between Canada and Sweden that has a grand total of 5 scoring chances. Yay.
 
Scotty B said:
Well again the Kidz didn't understand how crucial winning in regulation was...cause nobody who should have known communicated that to them...obviously

The Boyz are all thinking hey we won, we got it done...BUT NO...it took a Sportnet guy to explain what a precarious position they put themselves in to MacKinnon...

P.S: Those YG's did themselves proud and were the talk of the tourney...they lost one game, by one goal, to Russia who they outshot 46-25...and must have fired about 50 shots at King Henrique today , who surely saved 3kr's bacon

I think the disparaging gimmick moniker should be out the window...if they haven't earned your respect who cares?...Cause the whole hockey world -- leastways all those who matter --- sure stood up and took notice!!!
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That's terrible on the coaching staff then. The dying minutes of regulation could have had a much more hectic pace.
 
Have to say, the call by ESPN on the game winner was just awesome. Better than Sportsnet.
 
leafsfan1234 said:
They had a fun run while it lasted. It's a shame we'll likely never get to see McDavid and Matthews together ever again, they were both fantastic this tournament.

Ah well, now we get to look forward to an exciting 1-0 game in the finals between Canada and Sweden that has a grand total of 5 scoring chances. Yay.
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Canada is a real team with tradition.
 
erikk3 said:
has mclellan cemented himself as the worst coach in the tournament? honourable mention to torts of course
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the coaching took a team of young hot shots and got them to play as a cohesive team, and win against veteran teams, many of which have had player combos that have lots of experience playing together. The NA team has exceeded expectations.

As for MacKinnon not knowing about the stakes, I agree that it's coaching's job to communicate that, but at any rate the team was still pushing hard to score in the third while Sweden played shutdown hockey, and if you can't show how a factor affected on-ice play then it's not a factor. I don't think him knowing or not made much difference, and there was still a signficant consequence to losing in regulation so doing crazy gambles at the end could have cost them.

I know that if Russia advances tomorrow, it will look bad on NA coaching and that's inevitable. However if NA lost in regulation today, and then Finland won in OT tomorrow, then coaching would also be raked over the coals if it happened because they did something like pull the goalie.
 
Sorey said:
Team NA messed up. There are no excuses really. The fans knew the rules before the game and so should the players. It is not exactly noble prize equations.
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Most fans that knew likely spend more time thinking about these things than the guys who play. Most NHL players don't look at corsi numbers, don't know the CBA inside and out, and likely aren't 100% on the rules of who advances in what situation in a brand new tournament.

It's management's job to inform them.

KCC said:
Have to say, the call by ESPN on the game winner was just awesome. Better than Sportsnet.
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I've heard this a couple times, anyone with a video?
 
slobbergob said:
Most fans that knew likely spend more time thinking about these things than the guys who play. Most NHL players don't look at corsi numbers, don't know the CBA inside and out, and likely aren't 100% on the rules of who advances in what situation in a brand new tournament.

It's management's job to inform them.



I've heard this a couple times, anyone with a video?
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Check ESPN and scroll down a little. They have the call.
 
slobbergob said:
Most fans that knew likely spend more time thinking about these things than the guys who play. Most NHL players don't look at corsi numbers, don't know the CBA inside and out, and likely aren't 100% on the rules of who advances in what situation in a brand new tournament.

It's management's job to inform them.



I've heard this a couple times, anyone with a video?
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sweden collected more points. So sweet that my sweden will play semis! I am so happy right now!!!
 
Sorey said:
Canada is a real team with tradition.
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I'm Canuck and I was way more enamored by team Young Gunz then Team Canada...Now that they're probably out...the game coming up feels anti-climactic...

Team Euro meh...they'll probably get steamrolled...
 
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