Confirmed with Link: 6 year extension for Kaiden Guhle (5.5m AAV)

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HabbyGuy

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He could of, completely, and negotiated a disagreement bridge.

You mean Guhle could have? I suppose he could have bet on himself, but why turn down a fair deal with security at this point to play on a team you're both comfortable and excited to play for?

It'd be hard to argue at this point that Guhle isn't trending to be a top 3 dman for either side.

It would seem to me a bridge deal would be the least favourable option for both camps.
 
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Yes, I think the jury is still out as to his ultimate upside, at this juncture he's sold as a 2nd pairing number 3 Dman with room to grow. Guhle gets a nice contract giving him security and Hughes gains a fair deal with upside of a bargain in the near future.

I prefer the 6 year deal in this current situation. Tidy work by Hughes.
Oh I'm not criticizing Hughes at all with this. I don't see how you give Guhle more than this based on what he's shown in the NHL. If he wanted more I would have bridged him.
 
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That's not what you saying at all, that's massive retreat from "a specialist player".

What I am saying:
Hutson has the PP engine
Hutson on the first pairing in 5 v 5

What you are saying:
Hutson has the PP engine
Hutson on the third pairing in 5 v 5

There is a difference of 8 million per year and 10-13 minutes of ice time per game between these 2 players.
Huston is gonna the be the #1 QB on the PP, but I don’t want to see him on the 1st pairing at 5 on 5. I’m fine with on the 2nd pairing on 5 on 5 with a defensive Dmen that can box out in front of the net and that is a good skater
 
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Oh I'm not criticizing Hughes at all with this. I don't see how you give Guhle more than this based on what he's shown in the NHL. If he wanted more I would have bridged him.

Yeah not sure how he could possibly ask for more at this point. He'd be silly IMO to pass on this deal.

A bridge deal was not in either's best interest. Glad it got done.
 

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That's not what you saying at all, that's massive retreat from "a specialist player".

What I am saying:
Hutson has the PP engine
Hutson on the first pairing in 5 v 5

What you are saying:
Hutson has the PP engine
Hutson on the third pairing in 5 v 5

There is a difference of 8 million per year and 10-13 minutes of ice time per game between these 2 players.
What the heck do you think a specialist is. Ozone starts PP not looked upon for defending.
Don't try to tell me what I mean or don't mean. WTF

Huston is gonna the be the #1 QB on the PP, but I don’t want to see him on the 1st pairing at 5 on 5. I’m fine with on the 2nd pairing on 5 on 5 with a defensive Dmen that can box out in front of the net and that is a good skater
He isn't there yet.
All the better if he can win a second pairing somewhere down the road but he has to earn it.
 

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What is happening? It’s like…. there’s like… a plan? I’m so confused. :sarcasm:


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What the heck do you think a specialist is. Ozone starts PP not looked upon for defending.
Don't try to tell me what I mean or don't mean. WTF

5 v 5, 1st pairing isn't protected. Not a specialist, looked upon for defending in all non-critical moments.

A specialist usually plays 12-13 minutes per game not 25 minutes. That's the definition of a specialist in the NHL.
 

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Reinbacher is gonna play with Guhle on the 1st pair eating minutes and play against other team 1st line.

I don’t think we have the perfect partner for Huston yet on the 2nd pair though
I like Adam Larsson as a UFA next year to pair with Hutson in the future.

Guhle-Reinbacher
Hutson-Larsson
Xhekaj-Mailloux
 
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Huston is gonna the be the #1 QB on the PP, but I don’t want to see him on the 1st pairing at 5 on 5. I’m fine with on the 2nd pairing on 5 on 5 with a defensive Dmen that can box out in front of the net and that is a good skater

I want to see him play 25 minutes per game in most situations. Yes, in some cases he will fail, who cares. That's how you get a Quinn Hughes by playing him like Quinn Hughes is played.
 

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Yeah it totally disproves my point. Let me refuse to give him a Sanderson-type contract when I want an 8-year deal even though I know he will be worth it. Makes perfect sense.

Do you realize the GM wants players to get the least aav as possible? Why the heck would he want to give Guhle that much when he knows he can get him for less?

There was no way Guhle was getting the same contract as Sanderson. Sanderson scored almost twice as many points as Guhle.

Sanderson also got a bigger contract than what he shouldve. He got more than Quinn Hughes and just a little less than Heiskanen despite signing his contract only 2 years after them.
 
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I like Adam Larsson as a UFA next year to pair with Hutson in the future.

Guhle-Reinbacher
Hutson-Larsson
Xhekaj-Mailloux
Very interesting
I mean I like Barron n all, but not as a #3RD with Rein and Logan
Which is why I'm so warmed up on the idea of actually *keeping* Savard to turn him into 3RD

But turning Savard into Larsson I am not opposed to at all
 
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Steal of a deal. Now, get rid of the dead weight. Price, Dvorak, Anderson, Gallagher, Armia..let's go. Amazing how these guys eat up 30 mil.
 
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That a very good deal, I don’t know that he has earn that money yet but it fair to assume that everyone think he is able to over perform that contract.
Mtl cap situation seem to be under control for year to come.
 

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That's how I see it as well. He is a stop-gap with the hope that two younger guys fill the 1A-1B role. Matheson is currently in veteran form for us, but they know we need better.

Matheson - Guhle
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Mailloux

I think this is very well rounded with offense, size, mobility, etc... Not sure we need a number 1. But if we have the opportunity to get one, for sure you seize it.

Other problem is moving an LD and getting an RD.

our cap situation is going to be bonkers
What's that?
 

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Do you realize the GM wants players to get the least aav as possible? Why the heck would he want to give Guhle that much when he knows he can get him for less?
Because he gets more guaranteed years of prime Guhle.
There was no way Guhle was getting the same contract as Sanderson. Sanderson scored almost twice as many points as Guhle.
Ok, but whether or not Sanderson is worth the money is not my point. The point is that you pay a guy that you see as a #1 dman on a cup contender a Sanderson-type contract if it means you get 2 extra guaranteed prime years at a cheaper rate. Hughes didn't do that because he likely doesn't see Guhle as that type of player. Maybe he becomes one, maybe he doesn't. Bringing up top 10 players in the NHL who signed team friendly contracts before they broke out aren't good examples.
 

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I want to see him play 25 minutes per game in most situations. Yes, in some cases he will fail, who cares. That's how you get a Quinn Hughes by playing him like Quinn Hughes is played.
I don’t see him becoming Quinn Hughes though. Doesn’t have his skating ability

I like Adam Larsson as a UFA next year to pair with Hutson in the future.

Guhle-Reinbacher
Hutson-Larsson
Xhekaj-Mailloux
Yes he would make sense
 
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I want to see him play 25 minutes per game in most situations. Yes, in some cases he will fail, who cares. That's how you get a Quinn Hughes by playing him like Quinn Hughes is played.
This is more like 2nd pair type of money, which is great value because I think he might even be a good #2 on a solid team when all is said and done.

Playing 25 minutes puts you in #1 dman category where guys today are typically signing for considerably more than guhle will be getting.
 
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our cap situation is going to be bonkers
I'm telling you dude
Hughes and Gorton wake up laughing I swear

I bet they cannot even believe how well things have and are falling into place from the 2-3 drafts we had BEFORE they got here, to the 3 drafts WITH them after

Surrounding everything around Suzuki-Caufield they were gifted

FLUSH with defensemen comin out da wazoo

And then you see how many picks we have NEXT year already rounds 1-4, already 2 Firsts again

I'm telling you they look at each other like "yeah this don't happen like this every time.. let's take FULL advantage and freaked the greatest most affordable and skill and fight team ever" lol

And I am so THERE for it boy
 

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