Prospect Info: 6 scouts sacked -Gare-MACGREGOR -Davis-Hawley-Samenko-Moores

[Del Preston]

I guess everybody forgot already that Tambellini did a lot of house cleaning not long after he took over too. Included in those dismissals were a friend of Lowe named Mactavish and Kevin Lowe's own brother Ken. Those were also moves that signaled Lowe couldn't be involved anymore because he'd never allow them. Lowe hasn't been good at firing his buddies but others have. Unless you guy's are like Narnia and believe Lowe hasn't had anything to do with hockey since Tambellini was hired haven't we seen the team do this before? Im not trying to stir anything up here, I'm just saying it's really naive to think Lowe isn't still involved until we've seen how this plays out a little bit. We've been burned quite a few times already. I'd feel much better about things if he wasn't here at all.

There's a difference between letting a trainer go and firing several scouts...

MacTavish was either fired or resigned depending on who's doing the talking.

 

[Giggli G]

I'm afraid of the one and gun GM style of management. Although there is a hierarchy, it seems like Chia wants full and absolute control. "Expanded roles," was just another way of saying, "these idiots are still here because I'm not allowed to fire them, so they'll just being doing random, meaningless crap on the daily."

Rethink that logic. Dictators aren't faced with 'not being allowed to fire people'.

Also, this isn't government, it's business. Almost any hierarchical corporate structure functions much like this one appears to.

 

[oilz89*]

I'm afraid of the one and gun GM style of management. Although there is a hierarchy, it seems like Chia wants full and absolute control. "Expanded roles," was just another way of saying, "these idiots are still here because I'm not allowed to fire them, so they'll just being doing random, meaningless crap on the daily."

Better then what Mact is and was imo. Exactly. I have a feeling he doesn't like those 2 idiots but he's forced to keep them. So he's gonna give them meaningless jobs that lets them make money

 

[ohheyhemsky]

Rethink that logic. Dictators aren't faced with 'not being allowed to fire people'.

Also, this isn't government, it's business. Almost any hierarchical corporate structure functions much like this one appears to.

I think you've taken the moniker too literally here..

 

[smokersarejokers]

So a goalie before the draft has to be acquired by trade. So I guess that means one of:

Talbot
Bernier
Ward
Gibson
Lehtonen
Anderson
Lack

or other?

 

[joestevens29]

It's a shame it had to come to this, Moore certainly has a great reputation in town and around the league. I think it's on Lowe and co. for dragging their friends through this mess.

But there's nothing wrong with striving to be better. Status quo is the devil, change is good. All hail Chia!

How great of a reputation is it that no one has really looked at him as an option for their team? Instead his buddies made up a position for me to keep him around.

 

[Kayen]

Cam Ward? The Horcoff of goaltenders?

Most accurate statement i've read about Ward

 

[Namtsua]

So a goalie before the draft has to be acquired by trade. So I guess that means one of:

Talbot
Bernier
Ward
Gibson
Lehtonen
Anderson
Lack

or other?

Shouldn't Lehner be on that list as well?

 

[ohheyhemsky]

So a goalie before the draft has to be acquired by trade. So I guess that means one of:

Talbot
Bernier
Ward
Gibson
Lehtonen
Anderson
Lack

or other?

Less likely, but Ramo as well. His rights anyway.

 

[McBooya42]

Moneys on Talbot and Ward

The hell with Ward...he sucks. I'd rather take Bernier and Lack.

 

[Jumptheshark]

do we know if the oilers sacked more people today

 

[McDoused]

I see you have mastered the art of selective listening. That is not what Nicholson said.

Listen to between 13-14min.

I'd rather trust what Jason Gregor said 2 minutes ago. He's on the business side and not on the hockey side. Also said MacT isn't GM material but could be more useful in a lesser role.

 

[McDoused]

The hell with Ward...he sucks. I'd rather take Bernier and Lack.

Ward is washed up. He would have to have a huge bounce back year.

 

[40oz]

How great of a reputation is it that no one has really looked at him as an option for their team? Instead his buddies made up a position for me to keep him around.

We don't know that teams haven't, that sort of thing isn't usually public.
But even then, I was referring to his reputation as a person.

 

[Del Preston]

Oooh, the plot Scrivens.

 

[KenLinsemanFanClub]

Shouldn't Lehner be on that list as well?

Nope, questionable track record and concussion history. Plus Bryan Murray is looking for a home run in return. All reasons to steer clear.

 

[Jumptheshark]

one of the guys sacked was of the people I exchanged emails with once a month or so for years

 

[Del Preston]

one of the guys sacked was of the people I exchanged emails with once a month or so for years

Have you been spelling his name wrong all these years?

 

[Jumptheshark]

Have you been spelling his name wrong all these years?

after a few johnny walker blues I miss spell my name most days. He is a good guy, but I think he was kept around because he did not have a large nest egg to fall back on due to poor financial decisions when he played

 

[McDoused]

Who calls the shots for the Oilers?

A. Bob Nicholson
B. Jason Gregor

I guess you can believe whatever you want, but please dont pawn it off as absolute fact, because that is ****ing nonsense.

Who even cares. It's clear that Chia has the balls to make his own moves and isn't going to listen to people and treat their words as gospel.

You're argument is weak at best. Lowe might have a job that might allow him to talk to the GM that might include talks about hockey players that might influence his decision that might lead to a possible trade that might a bad trade.

That's a lot of mights.

 

[syz]

The only thing Chia has to do to attain the alpha male position is buyout Nikitin.

 

[crump]

Im gonna put this right here..

https://ca.linkedin.com/pub/james-mcgregor/2b/978/632

Will be offered director of Amateur Scouting.
Oilers version of Kyle Dubas.

 

[SK13]

Im gonna put this right here..

https://ca.linkedin.com/pub/james-mcgregor/2b/978/632

Will be offered director of Amateur Scouting.
Oilers version of Kyle Dubas.

Sounds more like Bob Green will slide into that role.

 

[rboomercat90]

I'm afraid of the one and gun GM style of management. Although there is a hierarchy, it seems like Chia wants full and absolute control. "Expanded roles," was just another way of saying, "these idiots are still here because I'm not allowed to fire them, so they'll just being doing random, meaningless crap on the daily."

I'm all for this. It's nice to know who's making all the decisions, good or bad. So sick of the shell game played by the previous regime where nobody knew who was responsible for anything. Guys were able to dodge accountability for years that way.

 

[smokersarejokers]

Sounds more like Bob Green will slide into that role.

Bob Green is in charge of all scouting (Amateur and Pro), as far as I know.

I assume he and Chiarelli are going to hire the next Stu and Morley.