Prospect Info: 5th Overall Pick 2020: Who Do The Sens Draft

[aragorn]

I'd be very surprised if Rossi were to beat out L. Brown, Norris, White, Stutzle or Byfield for any of the top 3 centre spots. And even more surprised if he or Perfetti ended up on LW whether they could beat out Tkachuk, Duclair, Formenton or Stutzle. Or if Raymond could beat out Batherson or Pinto on RW. Time will tell.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

You should absolutely be going for the biggest impact not the safest option, the Sens are stocked with safe, they need the game breaking point per game guys. The top of the draft gives you the best odds of getting them.

If the Sens feel Rossi is a 60 point 2nd line C, I don’t think he’s on the radar for pick #5.

Yet you've said Sanderson is a consideration at 5, and he seems to me like the ultimate "safest option".

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

"He's (Quinn) a lot closer to Perfetti and Rossi in the eyes of NHL scouts than some think.” - Brock Otten

Nice quote but some think he is that 15-20 range as well so its hard to pinpoint anything from it. I think he is top 10 worthy which puts him closer for sure

 

[L'Aveuglette]

I'd be very surprised if Rossi were to beat out L. Brown, Norris, White, Stutzle or Byfield for any of the top 3 centre spots. And even more surprised if he or Perfetti ended up on LW whether they could beat out Tkachuk, Duclair, Formenton or Stutzle. Or if Raymond could beat out Batherson or Pinto on RW. Time will tell.

Your bias for size really is immeasurable.

How would Rossi not be automatically a shoe-in for #2C? White and L.Brown can barely make the top-6 without strong competition as is, and Norris still hasn't proven anything at the NHL level. Only Stutzle/Byfield would be ahead of Rossi on the depth chart.

 

[TheNewEra]

You should absolutely be going for the biggest impact not the safest option, the Sens are stocked with safe, they need the game breaking point per game guys. The top of the draft gives you the best odds of getting them.

If the Sens feel Rossi is a 60 point 2nd line C, I don’t think he’s on the radar for pick #5.

Im trying to see how a 60 point center, with high IQ on both sides of the puck is not an impact player. Genuinely.

My other point here is even if we dont take rossi lets not do this off board nonsense please. No more experiments. No more reaching. Our 5th pick should be one of Drysdale/Perfetti/Rossi/Raymond. The general scouting consensus has put those 4 players in some combination between 4-7. No experiments. No off board picks. No thinking we are the smartest ones in the room.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Im trying to see how a 60 point center, with high IQ on both sides of the puck is not an impact player. Genuinely.

My other point here is even if we dont take rossi lets not do this off board nonsense please. No more experiments. No more reaching. Our 5th pick should be one of Drysdale/Perfetti/Rossi/Raymond. The general scouting consensus has put those 4 players in some combination between 4-7. No experiments. No off board picks. No thinking we are the smartest ones in the room.

#nothinkingwearethesmartestonesintheroom

 

[DJB]

Nice quote but some think he is that 15-20 range as well so its hard to pinpoint anything from it. I think he is top 10 worthy which puts him closer for sure

Quinn for me is in the 8-10 range personally and I can understand if his ranking could look wildly different from one club list to another.

 

[branch]

As it is rn from my pov I'm more than happy with Stutzle or Byfield, I dont think it's worth moving up a spot for whoever LA would take.

I'd be more happy to use the Isles pick + a 2nd round or 2 and move into the top 10

The objective would be to get both of them

 

[branch]

Im trying to see how a 60 point center, with high IQ on both sides of the puck is not an impact player. Genuinely.

My other point here is even if we dont take rossi lets not do this off board nonsense please. No more experiments. No more reaching. Our 5th pick should be one of Drysdale/Perfetti/Rossi/Raymond. The general scouting consensus has put those 4 players in some combination between 4-7. No experiments. No off board picks. No thinking we are the smartest ones in the room.

I agree with you but also Karlsson and Chabot were off the board

 

[DJB]

 

[branch]

Yet you've said Sanderson is a consideration at 5, and he seems to me like the ultimate "safest option".

Sanderson to me is basically Jeff Petry. He’s a fine player but not someone you should use a top 5 pick for. Then you’re also embroiled in those weird NCAA rules.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Whoever the scouts think is the best player.

If its Drysdale awesome! If its a center or a winger I'm cool with that too.

 

[branch]

I'd be very surprised if Rossi were to beat out L. Brown, Norris, White, Stutzle or Byfield for any of the top 3 centre spots. And even more surprised if he or Perfetti ended up on LW whether they could beat out Tkachuk, Duclair, Formenton or Stutzle. Or if Raymond could beat out Batherson or Pinto on RW. Time will tell.

Even it comes down to that Rossi is a brick shithouse. He’d for sure light it up in camp and displace Brown at the very least and give White a real good run for his money. Rossi is an NHL player next year

 

[aragorn]

Your bias for size really is immeasurable.

How would Rossi not be automatically a shoe-in for #2C? White and L.Brown can barely make the top-6 without strong competition as is, and Norris still hasn't proven anything at the NHL level. Only Stutzle/Byfield would be ahead of Rossi on the depth chart.

That's your opinion, I don't see Rossi transitioning into the NHL the way some on here do. I could see him as a Pageau replacement on the 3rd line in a few yrs after some time in the AHL but I don't see top six potential or beating out some of the guys we already have.

I also don't think you know what you're talking about regarding Brown & White & Norris won Rookie of the Year in the AHL. Rossi hasn't proven anything outside of junior. It's wishful thinking that he will be that good in the NHL & nothing more. I will love to see Rossi go head to head against some big NHL centres or even against our own.

 

[branch]

That's your opinion, I don't see Rossi transitioning into the NHL the way some on here do. I could see him as a Pageau replacement on the 3rd line in a few yrs after some time in the AHL but I don't see top six potential or beating out some of the guys we already have.

I also don't think you know what you're talking about regarding Brown & White & Norris won Rookie of the Year in the AHL. Rossi hasn't proven anything outside of junior. It's wishful thinking that he will be that good in the NHL & nothing more. I will love to see Rossi go head to head against some big NHL centres or even against our own.

No way dude Rossi is at the very least a 0.5ppg player next year. Book it AINEX

 

[branch]

Anyways. I just want goals and skill. I don’t care about anything else. You can fill toughness and defence through other means but you can’t acquire inherent skill regularly.

 

[Taluss]

The objective would be to get both of them

Ffs I misread your post apologies,

In that case I'm still unsure. Ig it depends on if you value Byfield/ Stutzle more than the 5th ov and whoever is drafted with Otts other first. If they can use 2nds and Isles pick & move it into the top 10 I think I'd rather do that and keep 5

 

[Micklebot]

Sanderson to me is basically Jeff Petry. He’s a fine player but not someone you should use a top 5 pick for.

Petry had 15 pts in his draft year, Sanderson had 15 pts in his last 20 games or so.

Sanderson is getting seriously underatted. He is going to be a stud imo and likely the best dman not named Chabot on this team if he gets drafted by us.

 

[branch]

Ffs I misread your post apologies,

In that case I'm still unsure. Ig it depends on if you value Byfield/ Stutzle more than the 5th ov and whoever is drafted with Otts other first. If they can use 2nds and Isles pick & move it into the top 10 I think I'd rather do that and keep 5

Fortune favours the bold I think the drop off after the top 3 is fairly pronounced just by taking into consideration the strengths of the other players likely to still be on the board

 

[branch]

Petry had 15 pts in his draft year, Sanderson had 15 pts in his last 20 games or so.

Sanderson is getting seriously underatted. He is going to be a stud imo and likely the best dman not named Chabot on this team if he gets drafted by us.

So you think he is the Seth Jones tier? Maybe not as much as physical freak but in terms of potential?

 

[TheNewEra]

I agree with you but also Karlsson and Chabot were off the board

Karlsson and Chabot were also mid round picks. 15 and 18 IIRC. Thats the time to take risks if needed since that is generally when the consensus ends.

As an example the 2015 nhl draft had the same 5 players taken with the first 5 picks as bob mckenzies mock draft.
2016 had juolevi and tkachuk swap spots. Bob had them flipped.
2017 had viraldi slip at the draft but EP, Glass and Middlestadt were the next projected picks on the mock draft.

I started with 2015 because I looked up chabots draft year. Point being is that the consensus is generally there for the first 5 picks and history of those three years has shown no one really going off the board as Juolevi was ranked 6th and taken 5th and EP was ranked 7th and taken 5th. If we have so many people agreeing to a relative consensus their is no need to go way off board especially when we are in no position to be going way off board or off script.

The last real off the board pick in the top 5 was barrett hayton from the yotes and before that i honestly cannot remember off the top of my head. Who knows maybe hayton does amazing and the yotes look like geniuses. As of right now though that is looking like a questionable pick due to the talent that was taken after and already making more of an impact in the league.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Petry had 15 pts in his draft year, Sanderson had 15 pts in his last 20 games or so.

Sanderson is getting seriously underatted. He is going to be a stud imo and likely the best dman not named Chabot on this team if he gets drafted by us.

The list is long on who would be 2nd best behind Chabot

 

[BondraTime]

Yet you've said Sanderson is a consideration at 5, and he seems to me like the ultimate "safest option".

Well that tells me enough

Serious question. Have you watched a single of his games?

 

[branch]

Who doesn’t want that? And for people saying that it’s wrong to look at 67’s prospects highly because they were such a good team; this guy is the REASON they had a good time. He carried them. I saw him play on a Friday night and he put up 5pts like he was walking his dog. Unreal skill and IQ. IMO you take whoever is there at 3, then this guy will compliment the shit out of either of them. His instincts are off the charts and he scores like crazy. He plays hockey like you do when you’re in a dream after 8 Coors Banquets and you’re just flying around the ice and no one can touch you.

 

[BondraTime]

Im trying to see how a 60 point center, with high IQ on both sides of the puck is not an impact player. Genuinely.

My other point here is even if we dont take rossi lets not do this off board nonsense please. No more experiments. No more reaching. Our 5th pick should be one of Drysdale/Perfetti/Rossi/Raymond. The general scouting consensus has put those 4 players in some combination between 4-7. No experiments. No off board picks. No thinking we are the smartest ones in the room.

We aren’t. If the scouts feel it, perfect, and obviously many feel others are higher than that, and others are in that group. These things aren’t off the board, aside from on the internet.