4th Overall the Senators Take Brady Tkachuk

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Langdon Alger

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Pissed we passed on Zadina, but not surprised. Tkachuk will be an nhl player. Top 9 guy for sure. Top 6 I hope. I see him more as a second line player. Maybe on a line with Brown one day? Interesting to see how much offence he can bring.

Just punch Matthews in the face, ok Brady?
 

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Pissed we passed on Zadina, but not surprised. Tkachuk will be an nhl player. Top 9 guy for sure. Top 6 I hope. I see him more as a second line player. Maybe on a line with Brown one day? Interesting to see how much offence he can bring.

Just punch Matthews in the face, ok Brady?

He'll hit em wit 4.
 

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Sens got the player I wanted. Zadina has skill but soft as a cotton ball. Hence why he ended up slipping. The shocker is Velano at 30..alot of GMs made a mistake letting him slip that far.
 

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I like Tkachuk as a player - but you cannot draft predominantly for character and intangibles when you have a top 5 pick with a shot at a goal scorer and playmaker like Zadina.

The Sens are desperate for high end offensive skill, especially after the trade of Hoffman, and just passed on a player who would seemingly provide exactly that. Frustrating. You can find character and intangibles later in the first round or in the second or third round.

You can't find the mix of character and skill that Tkachuk possesses later in the 1st/2nd/3rd round. Skilled powerforwards are the hardest types to acquire, there's a reason we've never had one in our entire existence of a franchise - they're hard to get. This was not an off the board pick, he was rated above Zadina on many lists. Fans that freaked out about the selection have probably never seen Zadina or Tkachuk play and just bought the popular opinion. We need a goalscorer but that's something we can acquire via other means.
 

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Sens got the player I wanted. Zadina has skill but soft as a cotton ball. Hence why he ended up slipping. The shocker is Velano at 30..alot of GMs made a mistake letting him slip that far.

Zadina isn't soft at all...

He's quite feisty, works hard away from the puck, and drives the net hard and with a goal scorers fearlessness.
 
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Agent Zuuuub

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You can't find the mix of character and skill that Tkachuk possesses later in the 1st/2nd/3rd round. Skilled powerforwards are the hardest types to acquire, there's a reason we've never had one in our entire existence of a franchise - they're hard to get. This was not an off the board pick, he was rated above Zadina on many lists. Fans that freaked out about the selection have probably never seen Zadina or Tkachuk play and just bought the popular opinion. We need a goalscorer but that's something we can acquire via other means.

people obsess over their power forwards so much. I guess it appeals to the dinosaurs in hockey.but the thing is, you don't have to be a power forward to be hard to play against. The hardest forwards to contain and play against are guys like Marchand, Pasternak, Crosby,

Tuch and Wilson were crucial in the playoffs, but you'd be a fool to think they were more integral than Marchessault or Kuznetsov.
You get those kinds of gamebreakers first and then you worry about surrounding them with guys like Tkachuk.

Bowers, Lazar, White, Tkachuk ... these just aren't high upside picks.
 

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people obsess over their power forwards so much. I guess it appeals to the dinosaurs in hockey.but the thing is, you don't have to be a power forward to be hard to play against. The hardest forwards to contain and play against are guys like Marchand, Pasternak, Crosby,

Tuch and Wilson were crucial in the playoffs, but you'd be a fool to think they were more integral than Marchessault or Kuznetsov.
You get those kinds of gamebreakers first and then you worry about surrounding them with guys like Tkachuk.

Bowers, Lazar, White, Tkachuk ... these just aren't high upside picks.
My thoughts exactly. Lazar busted, Bowers barely improved this year and White was underwhelming this year. I'm real worried about Tkachuk.
 

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Chances that he plays with the team next year?

I think 50/50 .. If they can convince him to stick and possibly start the year in the AHL ... I think he'll play. If not I think he goes back to BU... or opts for London. Either one of those is a good choice if he isn't staying this year. I think for Brady its more important to continue developing against bigger stronger players for the way he plays .. pushing aroung 16/17 y/o in the CHL isn't going to do much except pad the stats.
 

Karl Prime

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So Brady turns 19 in September. The consensus seems to be that he's better than his brother. I know that development isn't linear, but Matthew had 48 and 49 points in his first two seasons. If Brady plays with Ottawa this season, I have a very hard time seeing him put up those numbers.
 

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people obsess over their power forwards so much. I guess it appeals to the dinosaurs in hockey.but the thing is, you don't have to be a power forward to be hard to play against. The hardest forwards to contain and play against are guys like Marchand, Pasternak, Crosby,

Tuch and Wilson were crucial in the playoffs, but you'd be a fool to think they were more integral than Marchessault or Kuznetsov.
You get those kinds of gamebreakers first and then you worry about surrounding them with guys like Tkachuk.

Bowers, Lazar, White, Tkachuk ... these just aren't high upside picks.
Dog. Tkatchuk and lazar in the same sentence?
 

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I wanted Zadina, but Tkachuk was 2nd on my board after him. I'm just stoked we didn't take one of the d-men at 4.
 
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h2

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people obsess over their power forwards so much. I guess it appeals to the dinosaurs in hockey.but the thing is, you don't have to be a power forward to be hard to play against. The hardest forwards to contain and play against are guys like Marchand, Pasternak, Crosby,

Tuch and Wilson were crucial in the playoffs, but you'd be a fool to think they were more integral than Marchessault or Kuznetsov.
You get those kinds of gamebreakers first and then you worry about surrounding them with guys like Tkachuk.

Bowers, Lazar, White, Tkachuk ... these just aren't high upside picks.

I think you're underselling the effect that a premiere powerforward has on the game. They're just as crucial as the goalscorers. Most Stanley Cup winning rosters have had one, it's a good recipe for playoff success. I also think you're underselling Tkachuk by lumping him with Bowers/Lazar/White. Tkachuk has legit skill, his playmaking and dangles looks high-end from the videos I've seen.

Again, we need a goalscorer, but that's easier to acquire than a premiere powerforward.
 

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I was initially pissed about passing on Zadina but the people making Brady out to be a plug are way off. He's not just some no-skill grinder.
 
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