Did a little research on the kid (had no idea who he was) and I don’t dislike the pick. Might have been picked a bit higher than expected, but if he pans out, it’s exactly what this team been lacking for years
Prospect Info: 47OA: Brady Cleveland
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RED WINGS STOMP
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Feels like the extra pick from the trade down should of been the pick used to get Brady, not the second rounder after burning up two other second rounders on a goalie and a D.
Prove us all wrong Brady and develop on offensive game.
Prove us all wrong Brady and develop on offensive game.
This! Im all about being a truculent team. But why pick a guy in the 2nd round that you can get 2,3, or even 4 rounds later. It is baffling…
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Holden Caufield
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He really hasn’t scored a goal in over 2 years. A span that includes 151 JUNIOR hockey games.
if this pick hits… They will look like complete geniuses.
But for now, the jokes seem fair.
if this pick hits… They will look like complete geniuses.
But for now, the jokes seem fair.
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At 47th overall... idk how to feel about that
It seems that their master list definitely favors size/strength to say the least lol
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Every scouting report I have read on this kid sounds like Dylan McIlrath to me
McIlrath's hands are better than his skating whereas it sounds like it's the opposite for ClevelandEvery scouting report I have read on this kid sounds like Dylan McIlrath to me
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20 years ago the Nashville Predators selected Shea Weber 49th overall. In his draft year he put up 2 goals and 16 assists for 18 points with 167 PIM in 70 games with the WHLs Kelowna Rockets.
This year Cleveland put up 9 points with no goals and 166 PIM in 74 games. He was a plus 28 though.
Not sure if that information is supposed to make you feel better or worse, but thems are the facts.
ricky0034
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as flimsy as a single point of comparison 20 years apart to players in very different leagues is even the straight point comparisons aren't very close
that Weber year you mentioned represented about 2.2% of his teams points, and then he also had about 2.2% of his teams points in the Playoffs
Cleveland? about half a percent of his teams points, and then they didn't even bother to play him in the Playoffs
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Those are completely unrelated facts devoid of necessary context to make them related. You could make a better case that Lindstrom could be the next Lidstrom because their names are one letter off, are Swedish and were drafted by the red wings.
AlwaysSunnyInDetroit
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I didn't even attempt to draw any conclusions from those facts, I was merely presenting them.
Don't shoot the messenger
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I love it when players come across as sharp like that. Makes the pick feel a little bit better, like maybe they thought the personality and mental makeup added something special to his value.Very smart and personable.
"I'm not a goalie"
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It's very telling that the conclusion you jumped to is that I was trying to imply that Cleveland might turn out to be the next Weber, when in fact my intention was to point out that Nashville had managed to draft one of the greatest defensemen of his generation and we reached for a complete goon at essentially the same draft position.
I know that you've had a raging troll-b*ner all day long and it's redirecting blood flow from your brain, but try harder next time.
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Far too often, fans continue to forget the NHL Draft is far different than other sports. It’s more about taking physical specimens and hoping they develop skills for their role OR taking kids with puck skills and hoping they can become a physical specimen or overcome their shortcomings… They’re 17-18.
At least 85% of 400+ game NHL players were not seen as “Can’t Miss” types. They developed. Key word. Including 2nd Rounders… where teams miss almost more than any other round, because they take a player who is usually skilled, but has issues to physically develop, won’t play inside, or can’t create space you need (to do) in the NHL over any other league.
Outside of the Top 10-20, it’s a crapshoot in so many ways. I’ll trust Jiri Fischer over morons in the media who can’t get a job in the league. He has a track record now. He’s a great judge of talent. The kid is either going to develop or not. Just like every other dman drafted.
How many kids this big, can skate this well and play as physical as he can? The answer in this draft was…. nobody else. You don’t play on the US Development Team if you suck. Samuelsson from the Sabres was a similar player. I think he was drafted at the end of the 1st, beginning of the 2nd round.
What they did in this draft is basically cement their D-Core for the next 10 years. They already had the best core of D prospects in the league and added to that. This kid Keenan who plays for Culver Academy? He was flying up draft boards. Gibson might have been a 1st Round pick if not for his medical issue, missing so much time. His game is the closest thing to Shea Weber than any other dman who was drafted. Drafted in about the same spot as Weber too.
You draft and you develop. They’re 17-18 year old kids. No, he’s never going to put up points but can he become a Cernak? A McNabb? A Zadorov? Absolutely. Every one of those players today, fans and media would take in the 2nd round. People used to laugh at Zadorov and Cernak too.
Let the kid develop. Anyone saying “well they could’ve taken a more proven player, with more of a shot of making it?” Go back and look at the history of the second round. Those “consensus 2nd rounders” bust in very large percentages.
He was a unique prospect. That’s why they took him. If he develops, and becomes an imposing player, it was well worth the pick.
At least 85% of 400+ game NHL players were not seen as “Can’t Miss” types. They developed. Key word. Including 2nd Rounders… where teams miss almost more than any other round, because they take a player who is usually skilled, but has issues to physically develop, won’t play inside, or can’t create space you need (to do) in the NHL over any other league.
Outside of the Top 10-20, it’s a crapshoot in so many ways. I’ll trust Jiri Fischer over morons in the media who can’t get a job in the league. He has a track record now. He’s a great judge of talent. The kid is either going to develop or not. Just like every other dman drafted.
How many kids this big, can skate this well and play as physical as he can? The answer in this draft was…. nobody else. You don’t play on the US Development Team if you suck. Samuelsson from the Sabres was a similar player. I think he was drafted at the end of the 1st, beginning of the 2nd round.
What they did in this draft is basically cement their D-Core for the next 10 years. They already had the best core of D prospects in the league and added to that. This kid Keenan who plays for Culver Academy? He was flying up draft boards. Gibson might have been a 1st Round pick if not for his medical issue, missing so much time. His game is the closest thing to Shea Weber than any other dman who was drafted. Drafted in about the same spot as Weber too.
You draft and you develop. They’re 17-18 year old kids. No, he’s never going to put up points but can he become a Cernak? A McNabb? A Zadorov? Absolutely. Every one of those players today, fans and media would take in the 2nd round. People used to laugh at Zadorov and Cernak too.
Let the kid develop. Anyone saying “well they could’ve taken a more proven player, with more of a shot of making it?” Go back and look at the history of the second round. Those “consensus 2nd rounders” bust in very large percentages.
He was a unique prospect. That’s why they took him. If he develops, and becomes an imposing player, it was well worth the pick.
If true, that makes it so much worse. I hope that stuff doesn't run in the family. A little creepy look it up.
I don't get the rationale of we can't criticize the picks because we're not professionals or that some dude seven years ago was seen as a good prospect and never made it. Why have a discussion about the draft at all then if the only appropriate comment to every pick is that Stevie and his group must know better? Sometimes pros make mistakes. Remember when the Bruins were grilled for going off the board when they had three first round picks in a row? Who turned out to be right about that ? Just as many examples exist of the non hockey people being right
DamonDRW
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It seems Steve is addressing what he lacked with the Detroit in his latter part of the career - big punishing D lines and reliable goaltending. 
At the same time he somehow forgot that those teams had HoF offense.
At the same time he somehow forgot that those teams had HoF offense.
Not to add any more fuel to the fire for the negative Nancys, but how did that fair for Boston? A 2nd/3rd liner, a dman who still hasn't played a full season and ahler on his 3rd organization.
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He was ranked 75th in the Hockey News Draft Mag…he wasn’t lasting that long
Nobody in this draft is proven yet…not even Becard
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If this dude freight trains people and gives the backend more toughness…who gives a shit if he puts up points
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I don't care that much about how many points he puts up. But i do question how effective his defending can be with his skating.
