GDT: #39 - 12/31/19 | RANGERS @ oilers | 9:00 - MSG, NHLN

[Machinehead]

2019 GOAT

 

[Whoot Whoot]

Is it possible there is an actual officiating bias against the rangers? I feel like we are transgressing beyond margins of error here

 

[egelband]

Edmonton -2
Refs - 4
Rangers 2

So we are tied in some alternate realty, right ?

Beat ‘em handily, I’d say

 

[will1066]

What's with the furious comebacks this team always puts on? It's like they refuse to get desperate until there's barely enough time left.

 

[egelband]

Is it possible there is an actual officiating bias against the rangers? I feel like we are transgressing beyond margins of error here

Sometimes it’s incompetency. No idea what was going on tonight though. I just wish there was transparent and thorough evaluation of the refs. “Oh it’s a tough job” is getting really tired.

 

[duhmetreE]

I'd like to see Kravtsov on that Panarin-Strome line.

Our bottom6 is very average to bad.

I still dont like Chytil at center. A nice veteran 3rd line center would be nice for now.

Watching some of the defensive breakdowns is comical... They are so confused, I'm confused watching it.

 

[eco's bones]

Rangers should send a memo to the league that they don't want Schlenker or Walsh officiating any of their games for the rest of the season. The second period last night went beyond bizarre. I went to bed at that point---too angry to watch the rest of the game. I see though that the refs put their whistles away in the last period whilst the Rangers made a furious comeback. Schlenker's and Walsh's fingerprints and bias are all over this result and it's not just the calls they made....it's one particular call they didn't as one of them watched McKegg get clubbed in the head a few seconds before Archibald scored the Oilers 6th goal.

 

[leetch99]

Rangers should send a memo to the league that they don't want Schlenker or Walsh officiating any of their games for the rest of the season. The second period last night went beyond bizarre. I went to bed at that point---too angry to watch the rest of the game. I see though that the refs put their whistles away in the last period whilst the Rangers made a furious comeback. Schlenker's and Walsh's fingerprints and bias are all over this result and it's not just the calls they made....it's one particular call they didn't as one of them watched McKegg get clubbed in the head a few seconds before Archibald scored the Oilers 6th goal.

Even the Oiler announcers could not believe how they ended up on the right side of a couple of calls....when it should have been the complete opposite.

 

[Ola]

Amazing when your team scores 5 goals plus a game and the third and 4th lines never even come close to scoring. The third line gets a pass I guess for being about 19 average age but the 4th line is a black damn hole. Provides nothing right now. No energy. Draws no penalties .

It’s idiotic and it’s on DQ, not Gorton. He doesn’t even try to have a 4th that can play. He puts a defender out there that just skates around berserking the game. Haley (I don’t think he does a horrible job, but without any kind of spolid play from his linemates it gets ugly).

Let me guess, DQ spent the entire post game talking about over passing and we only scoring pretty goals? I think he is getting close to having lost the room.

 

[Ola]

Even the Oiler announcers could not believe how they ended up on the right side of a couple of calls....when it should have been the complete opposite.

So is this what we get when gambling has been made legal in many states in the US?

 

[egelband]

So is this what we get when gambling has been made legal in many states in the US?

It’s a government service in Canada btw.

 

[egelband]

Rangers should send a memo to the league that they don't want Schlenker or Walsh officiating any of their games for the rest of the season. The second period last night went beyond bizarre. I went to bed at that point---too angry to watch the rest of the game. I see though that the refs put their whistles away in the last period whilst the Rangers made a furious comeback. Schlenker's and Walsh's fingerprints and bias are all over this result and it's not just the calls they made....it's one particular call they didn't as one of them watched McKegg get clubbed in the head a few seconds before Archibald scored the Oilers 6th goal.

Did Quinn address the officiating toThe media at all?

 

[egelband]

In a non-rivalry game where there is no bad blood, no cheap shots...a clean game... there’s no excuse for a 6-1 pp discrepancy... after two periods, no less. They left the whistles in the locker before the third.
“Score Management” would have been an improvement over this garbage.

 

[NCRanger]

Rangers should send a memo to the league that they don't want Schlenker or Walsh officiating any of their games for the rest of the season. The second period last night went beyond bizarre. I went to bed at that point---too angry to watch the rest of the game. I see though that the refs put their whistles away in the last period whilst the Rangers made a furious comeback. Schlenker's and Walsh's fingerprints and bias are all over this result and it's not just the calls they made....it's one particular call they didn't as one of them watched McKegg get clubbed in the head a few seconds before Archibald scored the Oilers 6th goal.

I know there are some who post here who refuse to acknowledge it.

It seems every four to five games that someone is saying that it was the worst officiating they’ve ever seen.

At the risk of being called “conspiratorial”, I do believe there’s a bias against the Rangers. The officiating can’t be this bad and one sided randomly. It’s getting to where the games are so unenjoyable.

It’s not just penalties. There are at least two or three icing calls a game that aren’t. A pass was deflected or it was made across the red line. I don’t know if it is because of legal gambling, Quinn, or what, but I’m pissed off about it.

 

[NCRanger]

In a non-rivalry game where there is no bad blood, no cheap shots...a clean game... there’s no excuse for a 6-1 pp discrepancy... after two periods, no less. They left the whistles in the locker before the third.
“Score Management” would have been an improvement over this garbage.

In a non-rivalry game where there is no bad blood, no cheap shots...a clean game... there’s no excuse for a 6-1 pp discrepancy... after two periods, no less. They left the whistles in the locker before the third.
“Score Management” would have been an improvement over this garbage.

The calls against Lindgren were worse than a “hometown job”. He protected his goaltender and then was cross-checked. What did he do to deserve a double minor?

And then penalize the Ranger bench for complaining?

 

[egelband]

The calls against Lindgren were worse than a “hometown job”. He protected his goaltender and then was cross-checked. What did he do to deserve a double minor?

And then penalize the Ranger bench for complaining?

Not to mention a bunch of obvious missed calls the other way. I guess Quinn didn’t say anything after the game. Don’t want to get fined I guess.
The whole fining-of-any-dissension business is frustrating. It’s like the instigator rule. It’s cuts off a natural pressure release valve.

 

[RickChartraw]

It almost worked, only other game I've turned off this year was the Montreal game.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

So is this what we get when gambling has been made legal in many states in the US?

This is why I was against the national online sports betting.

I'm not even against regional sports books [Vegas] or super small scale betting.

I'm against the type of national books that were legally allowed via the repeal of PASPA and the ubiquity of mobile devices.

And now that so many leagues are true national leagues in that there is a national broadcast, unprecedented out of market viewers for teams [i.e. midwesterners watching a regular season game in New York in real time], and the induced parity in the NHL.

If anyone understands how sports spreads work [basically on the faith of the great unwashed] it's a recipe for disaster for people who watch sports because of an in depth fascination with the mechanics of that sport rather that "just having a good night" or enjoying putting money on games for the sake excitement

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Also Poll Incoming?

 

[egelband]

This is why I was against the national online sports betting.

I'm not even against regional sports books [Vegas] or super small scale betting.

I'm against the type of national books that were legally allowed via the repeal of PASPA and the ubiquity of mobile devices.

And now that so many leagues are true national leagues in that there is a national broadcast, unprecedented out of market viewers, for teams [i.e. midwesterners watching a regular season game in New York in real time], and the induced parity in the NHL if anyone understands how sports spreads work [basically on the faith of the great unwashed] it's a recipie for disaster for people who watch sports because of an in depth fascination with the mechanics of that sport rather that "just having a good night" or enjoying putting money on games for the sake excitement

Interesting. I hate “score management” (“induced parity”, as you say) on principle. But you make a great point. It totally monkeys with the betting part. I wonder how the bookmakers feel about it. It’s like the refs are negating or duplicating the spread.

 

[NCRanger]

This is why I was against the national online sports betting.

I'm not even against regional sports books [Vegas] or super small scale betting.

I'm against the type of national books that were legally allowed via the repeal of PASPA and the ubiquity of mobile devices.

And now that so many leagues are true national leagues in that there is a national broadcast, unprecedented out of market viewers, for teams [i.e. midwesterners watching a regular season game in New York in real time], and the induced parity in the NHL if anyone understands how sports spreads work [basically on the faith of the great unwashed] it's a recipie for disaster for people who watch sports because of an in depth fascination with the mechanics of that sport rather that "just having a good night" or enjoying putting money on games for the sake excitement

And on the other hand, MLB keeps up the nonsense of keeping Pete Rose out of the Hall of Fame, while other sports probably have referees betting on in game lines and other gimmicky action and rigging games.

 

[NCRanger]

Interesting. I hate “score management” (“induced parity”, as you say) on principle. But you make a great point. It totally monkeys with the betting part. I wonder how the bookmakers feel about it. It’s like the refs are negating or duplicating the spread.

I actually think the refs are betting on the games.

No doubt they’re throwing bets down in between periods on in game lines.

 

[egelband]

I actually think the refs are betting on the games.

No doubt they’re throwing bets down in between periods on in game lines.

If so, that’s potentially crushing to the league. Like the NHL telling Tim Donaghy, “hold my beer”.

 

[JHS]

Rangers should send a memo to the league that they don't want Schlenker or Walsh officiating any of their games for the rest of the season. The second period last night went beyond bizarre. I went to bed at that point---too angry to watch the rest of the game. I see though that the refs put their whistles away in the last period whilst the Rangers made a furious comeback. Schlenker's and Walsh's fingerprints and bias are all over this result and it's not just the calls they made....it's one particular call they didn't as one of them watched McKegg get clubbed in the head a few seconds before Archibald scored the Oilers 6th goal.

That was a follow through after a clearing attempt and therefore not a call. You guys who complain about officiating just don’t get it. Quinn complains after every call — every single one— and he does it visibly which the refs view as showing them up( I’ve officiated hockey for 22 years.). There are ways to disagree with officials and still show respect, send the captain over, call the ref over between periods at the start before the cameras are back on, during a tv timeout when the cameras are not on,etc and Quinn chooses the opposite. He shows them up and makes a scene. It’s a low class move and it’s why not a single official gives him a break. He’s developed a reputation as being a guy who shows them no respect( its obvious because this issue with the Rangers getting screwed is not isolated to one game here and there) and no he is suffering. It’s a ballsy move for a second year coach with literally no track record in the NHL to take. We can just add it to the list of Quinn failures.

 

[egelband]

If indeed it comes to light there is something nefarious with the officiating I bet the narrative is that the officials are victims... not paid enough, surrounded by so much opulence, inferiority complexes, ptsd, depression from fan and player anger, confusion from league directives... “We had no choice. They drove us to it!”