GDT: #36 - 12/23/2019 | RANGERS @ flyers | 7:00 - MSG2, NBCSN

[bobbop]

The Rangers ran out of gas after Hayes goal. I thought the second period, until the last 3 minutes was the best period of hockey they played all year.

It’s a process.

Patience. (it is f***ing killing me!)

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Patience. (it is ****ing killing me!)

You’re like 100. You should have......................


........plenty............,,,............

Of..........


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....patience........

 

[Machinehead]

I understand the inconsistencies from the kids... I dont understand it from the vets.

We have suspect leadership and preparation from the coaching staff.

Most of them suck?

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

I said it when Trouba was brought in that it was a big mistake. And then we back up the Brinks truck and give him all the money.

HE
CANNOT
DEFEND

He's on the embarrassing end of every highlight reel goal against Winnipeg from the last 4 years. One YouTube search proves it. He's a good defenseman but if he's not on the first PP unit you're not going to get the most out of him. He's a second pair defender at best and should never, ever be getting consistent minutes against teams top lines. Him and Skjei would be great second pairing guys but it's painfully obvious to everyone except management that they don't belong out there against top lines for 22 minutes a night. We've got a complete logjam on our powerplay and overall roster in general. I'm starting to wonder what the plan is with the 20 redundant pieces on the roster. There currently is not room for Fox, Trouba AND ada on this team

 

[Whoot Whoot]

Flyers fan and promise to play nice. Rangers are a much better team this year and are stuck in wrong division. It happens. One thing I noticed and wondering what people thought. It seems like the Rangers want to make the perfect cross ice pass shoot one timer over and over. And against Hart its the wrong strategy. He moves fantastic laterally when puck is in front of him. You beat Hart by playing behind the net or forcing him to handle the puck and I didn't see that at all from Rangers. Also Rangers need another guy or two in front of the net to get the nasty jam it and rebounds the bleep out of the puck. Lundy is still great was in general a great hockey game to watch.

Stuck in wrong division? It’s literally called the metropolitan? (That’s named after NYC btw)

 

[Deleted member 23124]

If we’re being honest, Buchnevich is like way on the bottom of the list for issues with this team.

First and foremost, I have no idea how Gorton and his staff sits in the press box to watch these games every night and doesn’t see an issue with the defensive system.

We actually have one? News to me

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

The Rangers ran out of gas after Hayes goal. I thought the second period, until the last 3 minutes was the best period of hockey they played all year.

It’s a process.

Patience. (it is ****ing killing me!)

Last 5 minutes made the game seem worse than it was

These both x 1,000,000.

I was watching on DVR and it was getting late, so with about 7 minutes to go, down 2-1, I hit fast forward — and was almost amused to see the Flyers’ score turn like a second counter on a digital clock. “Oh well,” I thought. “Played a really solid game against a tough team in their barn on the third of three in four days, and the D got loose in the last five as they pressed to tie. To be expected.”

Then I wake up with heartburn, check in here, and somehow the sky is falling.

Also to be expected, I guess.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

They are not a soft team. That's just a bullsh@t narrative. I can't remember a game this year that I felt they were physically intimidated. They have guys who can and do play with an edge. Trouba, ADA, Lemieux, Lindgren, Smith,Howden, Haley even Kreider. This isn't the 70's with the Broad street bullies anymore. We don't need goons anymore.

Well they certainly play soft!! Yes, the players you mentioned can play with an edge....the problem is they don't do it on a shift-to-shift basis.

The passive nature of this organization is astounding. Lemmy is the only one who regularly finishes a check. Lindgren is one of the few who will actually take the man coming into the zone rather than "hope" checking the puck.

I don't think anyone is advocating turning the team into the Bash Brothers -- but it would be nice once to see opposing players looking twice before entering our d-zone...or thinking twice about camping out in the low slot or top of the crease because they know they'll have to pay a price.

 

[leetch99]

Well they certainly play soft!! Yes, the players you mentioned can play with an edge....the problem is they don't do it on a shift-to-shift basis.

The passive nature of this organization is astounding. Lemmy is the only one who regularly finishes a check. Lindgren is one of the few who will actually take the man coming into the zone rather than "hope" checking the puck.

I don't think anyone is advocating turning the team into the Bash Brothers -- but it would be nice once to see opposing players looking twice before entering our d-zone...or thinking twice about camping out in the low slot or top of the crease because they know they'll have to pay a price.

Wanted : Rough & Tumble Captain who will arrive in the corners in a bad mood .

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Stuck in wrong division? It’s literally called the metropolitan? (That’s named after NYC btw)

By stuck in the wrong division, I think he meant that instead of playing the exhausting travel of team such as the New York Islanders and New Jersey Devils, it would make more sense to align the New York Rangers with less distant teams who we have longer historical rivalries with such as the Calgary Flames and Dallas Stars

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I said it when Trouba was brought in that it was a big mistake. And then we back up the Brinks truck and give him all the money.

HE
CANNOT
DEFEND

He's on the embarrassing end of every highlight reel goal against Winnipeg from the last 4 years. One YouTube search proves it. He's a good defenseman but if he's not on the first PP unit you're not going to get the most out of him. He's a second pair defender at best and should never, ever be getting consistent minutes against teams top lines. Him and Skjei would be great second pairing guys but it's painfully obvious to everyone except management that they don't belong out there against top lines for 22 minutes a night. We've got a complete logjam on our powerplay and overall roster in general. I'm starting to wonder what the plan is with the 20 redundant pieces on the roster. There currently is not room for Fox, Trouba AND ada on this team

RangersTown went into full buyer mode after we won the cup in July apparently by drafting Kakko who already looks like shit.

Not to mention that up until the trade deadline of 2018, this asshat organization almost completely f***ed up our lottery position by "not creating a loser mentality" yet syphoning loser points as if they were a parasite drinking blood from an almost fully scavenged carcass on the Savanna

Some times I wish I fell out of a different human in a different state and was indoctrinated to follow another business prior to the age of reason

 

[Doctyl]

and how many did he convert on? How many wide open looks did he blow? He’s paid to produce that was a joke and he knew it. He could have won us this game. There’s responsibility in finishing a play too

So you’re mad at our best player from the game? He was the player with the highest individual xGF in the game with something like 0.4. I didn’t think this needed to be said, but Buchnevich generating scoring chances is not the reason we lost 5-1.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

They are not a soft team. That's just a bullsh@t narrative. I can't remember a game this year that I felt they were physically intimidated. They have guys who can and do play with an edge. Trouba, ADA, Lemieux, Lindgren, Smith,Howden, Haley even Kreider. This isn't the 70's with the Broad street bullies anymore. We don't need goons anymore.

I thought it was clear by my next sentence I meant mentally soft. They allow one goal and all of a sudden they stop playing hockey and the floodgates open. It’s pathetic and it’s happened too often.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

I thought it was clear by my next sentence I meant mentally soft. They allow one goal and all of a sudden they stop playing hockey and the floodgates open. It’s pathetic and it’s happened too often.

I would call that mentally fragile rather than soft -- another trait that seems to have ingrained itself into Rangers psyche over the past few decades.

 

[Kovalev27]

So you’re mad at our best player from the game? He was the player with the highest individual xGF in the game with something like 0.4. I didn’t think this needed to be said, but Buchnevich generating scoring chances is not the reason we lost 5-1.

when you have that many clear cut chances to score and don’t and you lose a game that was close till the end you bet your ass that’s why you lost. Guy blows glorious chance after glorious chance. It’s ridiculous you have Panarin setting up clowns like him and Strome and neither can buy a goal ever.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

This game ruined my Christmas.

 

[Kovalev27]

Worst loss of the season for me. This team is a long way away.

Really disappointed with how soft they appear to be. Just completely implode way too often. It’s embarrassing.

this was the turning point loss. From having a shot at the playoffs to now just seeing where we end up and how the guys develop


By the way one last point on Buchy. You don’t get points for ALMOST scoring or the stupid expecting to score chart. You have to produce. You can’t continue to get those chances and not score and be the best player. He wasn’t. He also took another dumb penalty and his back checking was non existent. Hes the guy we should move

 

[Kovalev27]

Quinn needs to go that’s clear to me too. He’s got no idea what he’s doing. This should be his last season

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Quinn needs to go that’s clear to me too. He’s got no idea what he’s doing. This should be his last season

It really is troubling that he doesn't seem to have any clue as far as X's and O's. All he seems to understand is trying hard.

Not every coach needs to be Scotty Bowman but man, he really seems like he has not clue what he's doing and his staff isn't compensating for that with them being equally ineffective. Horrible PP despite tons of talent, PK that yields too high volume of A+ chances and needs goalies to be amazing just to get by, laughably bad at giving up the D zone and even worse defensive play once they're in the zone.

Honestly this team is under performing relative to their talent, on paper this team should be far better than they are and that's even if they weren't getting good goal tending which they are. The coaching is really dragging them down.

 

[Doctyl]

By the way one last point on Buchy. You don’t get points for ALMOST scoring or the stupid expecting to score chart. You have to produce. You can’t continue to get those chances and not score and be the best player. He wasn’t. He also took another dumb penalty and his back checking was non existent. Hes the guy we should move

Okay then, I’ll simplify it for you. He’s 4th on the team in points. 3rd in even strength points. And that’s while spending 71% of his time away from Panarin.

And you probably think you’re smart or witty for crapping on expected goals for, but it’s predicted Buch’s goal totals exactly so far this season. And not just his, most of the team’s actually (except Panarin who is shattering his). So yea I’m just fine with Buch continuing to drive play, create scoring chances, and produce.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

It really is troubling that he doesn't seem to have any clue as far as X's and O's. All he seems to understand is trying hard.

He’s not an X’s and O’s Coach

He *allegedly* knows how to motivate players and relate to them. He’s never been a great systems coach

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

He’s not an X’s and O’s Coach

He *allegedly* knows how to motivate players and relate to them. He’s never been a great systems coach

Which is why it was important for him to surround himself with coaches who can do that heavy lifting and into his second season now it's become increasingly clear that his staff as a whole isn't cutting it.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Which is why it was important for him to surround himself with coaches who can do that heavy lifting and into his second season now it's become increasingly clear that his staff as a whole isn't cutting it.

How do we know it's actually "his" staff?

 

[Kovalev27]

Okay then, I’ll simplify it for you. He’s 4th on the team in points. 3rd in even strength points. And that’s while spending 71% of his time away from Panarin.

And you probably think you’re smart or witty for crapping on expected goals for, but it’s predicted Buch’s goal totals exactly so far this season. And not just his, most of the team’s actually (except Panarin who is shattering his). So yea I’m just fine with Buch continuing to drive play, create scoring chances, and produce.

so what?

I said he was the reason we lost last night and your throwing stats at me. The only stat that matters relative to LAST NIGHT is how many high danger chances he flat out blew in a 1 goal game.

by the way when you say PRODUCE? He’s on a 47 point pace playing with studs in Mika or Panarin. Should that be impressive?

 

[chosen]

The weird thing about Buchnevich is the people who don’t like him complain “buh, he doesn’t do enough”

And then when he does a lot of great things it’s “buh, he never scores”

dude can’t win

If a player is doing great stuff and not scoring, he must be a great defensive forward.