Prospect Info: 33rd overall Roby Jarventie LW FIN

[NHL Dude 120]

His brother could be an interesting target for us down the line.

 

[Icelevel]

Gives me some havlat vibes.
Complimentary explosive offensive exciting player.

 

[MatchesMalone]

But physical traits are definitely passed down. That is 100% a fact. Barring genetic mutation you get all of your physical traits from the DNA of your parents. The offspring of Zdeno Chara is absolutely more likely to be a powerful, fast twitch type of person than the children of Danny DeVito.

If one of your parents is a 6'2 200 pound person with great proportions and an aptitude for speed, power, agility and hand-eye coordination (eg. a pro athlete) the deck is statistically stacked in your favour to have those traits when compared with a person whose parents are not athletically gifted. It isn't close to a sure thing that a legacy player will have a genetic advantage and you can't definitively pinpoint genetics as the sole reason that an individual excels. However, as a demographic group people with pro athletes as parents are more likely to be good at sports than the population at large. A significant portion of that is genetics.

Once a person has those genetics all the things you mentioned definitely improve their chances even against other genetically superior individuals.

It's quite likely that these young players are born with an advantage and then almost all of them benefit from learned behaviours from their parents, sound advice, additional resources, etc..

 

[MatchesMalone]

Gives me some havlat vibes.
Complimentary explosive offensive exciting player.

Haven't seen much of the player and not allowed to "like", but I like the sounds of that

 

[MatchesMalone]

If what BondraTime is saying is that you're at a genetic advantage having a former NHLer as a dad, I don't know how you could possibly argue against that. There are too many connections to call it a coincidence. It certainly doesn't make it a surefire thing, but it's a definite advantage.

Nobody is arguing against that. The debate is whether genetics is the primary reason that the sons of NHL players have an advantage.

And also whether there are genetic traits specific to hockey, not athleticism in general.

 

[NyQuil]

Nurture vs. Nature arguments are pretty hard to prove either way.

They get physical gifts from their parents but they are also raised in a positive hockey environment with all of the requisite contacts associated and access to the latest in training and skill development.

 

[Masked]

Nurture vs. Nature arguments are pretty hard to prove either way.

They get physical gifts from their parents but they are also raised in a positive hockey environment with all of the requisite contacts associated and access to the latest in training and skill development.

Not hockey but baseball however the story of Richard Dotson would suggest Nature more than Nurture.

 

[SensFan1010]

Id say it would have more to do with the connections then the actually athleticism. For instance Domis dad was never a skilled hockey player but max is very skilled. Its not because he inherited those genes from his father its because he grew up learning the game from guys like mat Sudin. Imagine the difference that makes.
Also a lot of pros will have links to agents and have the ability to talk to scouts watching his son which will give the kid the edge up on all the others.

 

[Pinto Bean]

Roby gonna read this thread and make an Ancestry.com profile

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Some people have better genes for being an athlete. Hardly a shocking statement. Doesn't make them better people or give them more value.

 

[Senscore]

In the case of Yao Ming, it was a deliberate attempt by the Chinese government to produce a star athlete. Kind of insane but I suppose it worked.

Was Yao Ming Bred?

 

[tellermine]

Really love his play.
Smart big dude with speed.
Upside is quite high.

 

[OperationHotMother]

Another game, another assist. I wonder how long he can keep up his p/pg performance.

 

[Sens in Process]

Another game, another assist. I wonder how long he can keep up his p/pg performance.

He made a nice play on the goal.

 

[NyQuil]

Geez, he looks like a big boy out there.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Geez, he looks like a big boy out there.

Very big looking frame for sure. I can see this kid playing at 210-215 lbs by the time he's 23-24.

 

[Masked]

Geez, he looks like a big boy out there.

Listed at just under 6'1" and just over 180 lbs on his team's website.

 

[NyQuil]

Listed at just under 6'1" and just over 180 lbs on his team's website.

Funny, maybe everyone else on the ice is small.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

He made a nice play on the goal.

I know it's only 5 games in but it's a big deal for a 18 year old rookie to be wearing the gold helmet damn.

 

[Stuzchuk]

Projected third liner at best. The kid will not make NHL. They just wasted the pick.

At this stage from what I've read/seen... I would have to agree with this. There was better player to choose from at #33 IMO

 

[Phenomenon]

Today 0+1 for Roby.

(Time 3:10)
Ottelukooste | Pelicans - Ilves 16.10.2020 | Liiga

 

[BondraTime]

At this stage from what I've read/seen... I would have to agree with this. There was better player to choose from at #33 IMO

No clue how someone could think 3rd liner at best when seeing him play the past month

Edit: Just saw who you were quoting, the evaluation makes sense now

 

[Billy Bridges]

Funny, maybe everyone else on the ice is small.

Hold your screen farther from your face.

 

[TheDebater]

Looking like Dorion is going to be 2 for 2 with this pick. Last year with Pinto over Kaliyev, and now Jarventie over Peterka.

Of course, it is still very early but damn if it does not make me happy.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Still really early, but there's a ton to like with Jarventie.

Size, speed, shot, skill, sense - he seems to have it all.

Love high upside picks.