Post-Game Talk: #27 - 03/15/2021 | Rangers vs Flyers | 7:00 PM EST - NBCSN, MSG

[SnowblindNYR]

"Tip your hat to them". I miss Torts's press conferences.

 

[Tob]

I was 100% sure Kakko was a slam dunk pick. I would have taken him over Hughes 10 out of 10 times. Dude was skating circles around men before he even came here. Laf - same thing. A bit older, bigger, has some grit. I would have bet my sack that they would be immediate impact players.

Good thing I didn't...

you've had enough kids, wouldn't be a terrible thing.

 

[TominNC]

I'm ready for this season to end. Bring on the Mets, I'll be fired up for the Rangers again next training camp.

 

[WojtekWolski86]

With 3 players on the Covid list I think the NHL should postpone Rangers games for at least 2 weeks. Wouldnt want any other team to catch Rangers disease...errr... I mean Covid from us.

 

[ElLeetch]

This is true. But there is no reason to expect this to happen. This coach is treating them like everyone else holding them accountable. So, they are playing pretty conservatively. Both are 3rd man high alot and are not getting PP time. Other top picks, like Jack Hughes who gives the puck away all night are given a ton of rope to make mistakes and lead to losses and they get some points because of usage and because they are talented. This coach is not interested in how many point Laf and KK put up at 19 and 20. He is trying to make them 200 foot players and that and some bad luck have led to poor production. Just be patient.

Yes, and thats how they learn. Make mistakes, score points. You don't have them do a million dump-and-chase reps and preach 'board work' all day. Thats how you end up with elite grinders. not elite scorers.

 

[RangersFan]

I was 100% sure Kakko was a slam dunk pick. I would have taken him over Hughes 10 out of 10 times. Dude was skating circles around men before he even came here. Laf - same thing. A bit older, bigger, has some grit. I would have bet my sack that they would be immediate impact players.

Good thing I didn't...

You watch their highlights from Jr's and WJC and you think to yourself, what happened? Where is the progression and growth? Where are the sustain flashes of that skill?

 

[aufheben]

Except, you know, literally any 1st unit Powerplay time....

Did you consider that the reason the 2nd unit isn’t good is because they’re on it?

 

[DialUp]

With other rookies and prospects, their "flashes" result in 18 points so far. Or results in competing for the Calder. #BinQuinn

 

[NYSPORTS]

I'm trying to think of how this season could've played out worse to this point...then I throw Kravtsov into the mix

he’ll be here soon. Hopefully without figure skates

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

You watch their highlights from Jr's and WJC and you think to yourself, what happened? Where is the progression and growth? Where are the sustain flashes of that skill?

whats the common denominator?

 

[Synergy27]

And Nathan Mckinnon has three 5 v 5 goals this year. Strange year for all. Watching Kakko you see alot of good. Let him marinate; Has he played even 100 games as a newly minted 20 year old?

That number of games played keeps growing uncomfortably larger. Something has to give eventually if he is indeed the player we hope he is.

 

[Sayba]

Kakko has certain skills and abilities to be a very good player but after watching essentially all his NHL games I'm beginning to think he is the type of winger who is going to need a center who can hold and pass the puck. Kind of like Nylander with Jagr.

I think he would actually be good with Hayes in the cycle game, he does need others to help with the puck possession. If we can't keep it going and generate chances his efforts end up being for very little.

 

[TheDirtyH]

I'm just going to stop liking Kakko and Lafreniere, maybe that'll work something loose.

 

[DialUp]

Did you consider that the reason the 2nd unit isn’t good is because they’re on it?

This I don't fully buy into. The 2nd unit rarely gets the offensive zone draw. It's almost always on the fly, not fully changed, and with 35 seconds left.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Imagine if both Lafy and Kakko bust here and get traded and then breakout in their mid 20s. It would not shock me for them to do that.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Because 1 point is a meaningless consolation prize in a season where we aren’t going to be in the race, and watching the game we’re disgusted with what we see from our team and coaches. Panarin had a 3 point explosion in a 5 minute window in the second. Otherwise we bled breakaways and odd man rushes, Kreider was invisible, Mika is cursed, the kids are invisible, Miller was running around like a headless chicken with no accountability (because NCAA?) and we’re paying Trouba Pietrangelo money for Dumolin performance.

I didn't say it was a good game but the overreactions are absurd. They still did get 1 point without 3 of their top players and crappy goaltending. Reading this board you would think they lost 10-0. If they won in OT would everything be ok?

 

[NYR94]

lol oops even Vally and Pidto are off

 

[Tob]

lol oops even Vally and Pidto are off

Even Steve's 3 Emmy's can't save this.

 

[rdhstlr23]

I know Gauthier got a pretty goal, but he was awful too. Those two penalties just can’t happen.

 

[itsPLkielbasa]

It's just sad seeing us struggle like this. If we were actually decent on the PP, we would have won a few more games.

Panarin is literally the only one driving this team.

We hit a few posts and Kinkaid gave up a softy on top of that horrible OT giveaway.

On to the next one but not expecting much.

 

[Synergy27]

I'm just gonna pretend that Lafreniere is Blackwell and and Kakko is Rooney.

I legitimately mistook Rooney for Laf a couple of times tonight. Who’s that gangly lefty with a number in the teens taking a guy wide and sniping top cheese. Oh, wait, definitely not Laf.

 

[ReddestRum]

Imagine if both Lafy and Kakko bust here and get traded and then breakout in their mid 20s. It would not shock me for them to do that.

That would mean they would've been trained under a better system than Quinn's blue line dump and chase effort and under a coach that knows how to build his players.

 

[CupSeeker]

Yes, and thats how they learn. Make mistakes, score points. You don't have them do a million dump-and-chase reps and preach 'board work' all day. Thats how you end up with elite grinders. not elite scorers.

Not defending Quinn. Defending the kids. We have no shot to win anything this year. The organization should be all about letting these guys play in all situations to develop. But Quinn thinks every player has to be Patrice Bergeron. I have never, not once seen Kakko hang at the red line for a pass. He is always back, always high in the O Zone if he doesn't have the puck. That's a kid who is scared to get caught and catch the wrath of his coach. He has to find the balance; once he does his skills will take over. When he has the puck, he protects it, he moves it and his activity leads to shots. He is snake bitten. Laf will be just fine, but the leash needs to be loosened on both.

 

[NYR94]

Even Steve's 3 Emmy's can't save this.

They know that Trautwig's contract wasn't renewed so now they're getting too comfortable

 

[NickyLongLegz]

How come Quinn changes the lines the second things go awry yet he refuses to change the power play that has not worked for months?