24/25 Waivers/Rumors/TDL Thread.

[Winger98]

My money is on us seeing two new faces on the blueline next year (ASP and one from outside of the organization). I am not sure what will happen with the forwards.

I'm going to love seeing this place blow up when we sign Chychrun...

I suspect one or both Fisher/Veleno are not back and we see Elmer up as the 13th forward or 3rd/4th LW with Danielson.

If going small on Line 2, maybe try Berggren-Kasper-Raymond and move Cat back up with Larks with MBN. Ray and JB were 2/3 of a killer line along with that Petteresson kid on the Canucks for Sweden in the Jrs a few years ago...I think those 3 will push one another to a higher level if given some time together.

If we can move Veleno and get something useful in return, I don't know how we justify bringing him back. At least Fischer is cheap. Motte is cheap. Veleno (and Ras) are paid to be more than that but they just aren't taking that next step. I was really hoping they'd bring a bit more this year.

 

[LongTimeDRWF]

I'm going to love seeing this place blow up when we sign Chychrun...



If we can move Veleno and get something useful in return, I don't know how we justify bringing him back. At least Fischer is cheap. Motte is cheap. Veleno (and Ras) are paid to be more than that but they just aren't taking that next step. I was really hoping they'd bring a bit more this year.

Cap space not really an issue next year if they can't move Veleno this year, but I see certainly 1 of him or Fisher sure likely not back next season.

JV is a center, has some size and can skate, pretty sure the his hometown Habs will us something for him after the Free Agent frenzy, they should have some space next year and may be in need of cost effective mobile center.

If they can't dump him by the end of the summer, wait for the TDL in 2026 and try again and not bring Fisher back (need the roster spots).

They might be able to dump him this TDL, centers are always in demand, the extra year may not scare off contenders as the cap is expected to go up.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

Out: Kane Compher Veleno Motte Fischer Chiarot Petry Talbot

In: Buchelnikov(he’s so fkin good) Danielson MBN Mazur ASP(also very fkin good) Wallinder Cossa

Buchelnikov Larkin Raymond
Debrincat Kasper Berggren
Brandsegg-Nygard Danielson Tarasenko
Mazur Copp Rasmussen

Johansson Seider
Edvinsson Sandin-Pellika
Wallinder Holl/Gus

Lyon
Cossa

Youth movement 2025 please

 

[Henkka]

Compher, Veleno, Chiarot and Talbot probably not going anywhere.

 

[Snuggs]

Out: Kane Compher Veleno Motte Fischer Chiarot Petry Talbot

In: Buchelnikov(he’s so fkin good) Danielson MBN Mazur ASP(also very fkin good) Wallinder Cossa

Buchelnikov Larkin Raymond
Debrincat Kasper Berggren
Brandsegg-Nygard Danielson Tarasenko
Mazur Copp Rasmussen

Johansson Seider
Edvinsson Sandin-Pellika
Wallinder Holl/Gus

Lyon
Cossa

Youth movement 2025 please

He's signed to play in Russia for at least 1 more year, and I think he'll do it. These guys rather play home and in the KHL making more money vs coming over and possibly being sent down to the AHL or ECHL.

Maybe switch that name with Lombardi.

I'm betting MBN also stays in Europe. He's not exactly lighting it up yet.

Sandin-Pellika/Cossa/Mazur/Danielson/Lombardi/(Red Savage) all have legitimate shots at making the team next year. (IMO).

Wallinder, for whatever reason isn't the player I see that other people see here, I legitimately don't think he's good. It's like the Soderblom effect. He's not good, hasn't been for a minute now, but everyone everywhere see's the potential. I'd package the two up right now and get ANYTHING I could of value.

 

[Snuggs]

Last year was more fun than this year. Sucks.

 

[TCNorthstars]

Out: Kane Compher Veleno Motte Fischer Chiarot Petry Talbot

In: Buchelnikov(he’s so fkin good) Danielson MBN Mazur ASP(also very fkin good) Wallinder Cossa

Buchelnikov Larkin Raymond
Debrincat Kasper Berggren
Brandsegg-Nygard Danielson Tarasenko
Mazur Copp Rasmussen

Johansson Seider
Edvinsson Sandin-Pellika
Wallinder Holl/Gus

Lyon
Cossa

Youth movement 2025 please

7 rookies would be wild.

 

[SirloinUB]

I still like the idea of adding Rasmus Andersson. Unfortunately Calgary is playing well enough that they probably wouldn't move him right now.

 

[19 for president]

I'd love to see us land a mid 20 something top 4 guy. I'd lean LD just because ASP is coming and I don't see the point of spending the assets for a guy to get replaced in a year or two. If we can land a top 4 LD, we potentially lock up our top 4 for the next 5-10 years and you can look to deal some of our surplus dman prospects to shore up other areas.

With that said I can't see the Wings having 7 rookies next year either. I think MBN and ASP both spend a majority of the year in GR. Danielson, Soderblom, Cossa probably make the jump. Cossa and Danielson because of need/readiness and Soderblom because he'll be out of waiver options. I'd be surprised if they at least don't give him a cup of coffee but could also see him get waived after 20ish games if he isn't breaking into the lineup. I could see Buch coming over but only if he gets a guaranteed NHL spot, I don't see him coming over to play in the AHL.

Hanas and Viro probably get waived. Wally and Ammo will also be pushing for spots but I think they likely loose out just based on Stevie not wanting a million rookies on the team at once. Ammo would need to beat out Danielson, but he is going to have to put up major points to overcome Danielson's two way game. Wally has a better shot if ASP gets a year in GR, but he's also up against it because we won't have any freebie bottom pairing spots available.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

He's signed to play in Russia for at least 1 more year, and I think he'll do it. These guys rather play home and in the KHL making more money vs coming over and possibly being sent down to the AHL or ECHL.

Maybe switch that name with Lombardi.

I'm betting MBN also stays in Europe. He's not exactly lighting it up yet.

Sandin-Pellika/Cossa/Mazur/Danielson/Lombardi/(Red Savage) all have legitimate shots at making the team next year. (IMO).

Wallinder, for whatever reason isn't the player I see that other people see here, I legitimately don't think he's good. It's like the Soderblom effect. He's not good, hasn't been for a minute now, but everyone everywhere see's the potential. I'd package the two up right now and get ANYTHING I could have value.

I feel like people keep putting on expectations of what Russians usually do onto buchnelikov but he’s done stuff that shows he’s trying to be proactive in getting over hear. He came over and worked out and talked with the staff about what he can do to get to Detroit and in the NHL faster. He will be here sooner than you think.

Also your attitude towards wallinder is pretty insane when he’s only gotten better every year, is getting points, and the organization love him and think he’s developing nicely. Just as you say people overrate him I think sometimes people get it in their head that players aren’t good and dog them for everything that other people don’t see. They nitpick and become haters. Think you’re kinda being a wallinder hater here.

 

[Snuggs]

I feel like people keep putting on expectations of what Russians usually do onto buchnelikov but he’s done stuff that shows he’s trying to be proactive in getting over hear. He came over and worked out and talked with the staff about what he can do to get to Detroit and in the NHL faster. He will be here sooner than you think.

Also your attitude towards wallinder is pretty insane when he’s only gotten better every year, is getting points, and the organization love him and think he’s developing nicely. Just as you say people overrate him I think sometimes people get it in their head that players aren’t good and dog them for everything that other people don’t see. They nitpick and become haters. Think you’re kinda being a wallinder hater here.

Well, you know, possibly. Players/prospects always have that great ability to go out and prove haters wrong. Hopefully he does.

 

[Winger98]

I'd love to see us land a mid 20 something top 4 guy. I'd lean LD just because ASP is coming and I don't see the point of spending the assets for a guy to get replaced in a year or two. If we can land a top 4 LD, we potentially lock up our top 4 for the next 5-10 years and you can look to deal some of our surplus dman prospects to shore up other areas.

With that said I can't see the Wings having 7 rookies next year either. I think MBN and ASP both spend a majority of the year in GR. Danielson, Soderblom, Cossa probably make the jump. Cossa and Danielson because of need/readiness and Soderblom because he'll be out of waiver options. I'd be surprised if they at least don't give him a cup of coffee but could also see him get waived after 20ish games if he isn't breaking into the lineup. I could see Buch coming over but only if he gets a guaranteed NHL spot, I don't see him coming over to play in the AHL.

Hanas and Viro probably get waived. Wally and Ammo will also be pushing for spots but I think they likely loose out just based on Stevie not wanting a million rookies on the team at once. Ammo would need to beat out Danielson, but he is going to have to put up major points to overcome Danielson's two way game. Wally has a better shot if ASP gets a year in GR, but he's also up against it because we won't have any freebie bottom pairing spots available.

Hanifin would have really been the get there.

We're to a point where some guys are either going to be in Detroit or they're going to be dealt, so hopefully we start seeing some moves made. With the year some of these guys are having in Detroit, I don't think Yzerman will blink about just burying someone in GR if he wants a kid up. Detroit's been a fan of Wall for awhile, and I think he's out of waiver options. If he's not packaged for an upgrade somewhere, I can't see Yzerman letting him go through waivers.

 

[LongTimeDRWF]

Hanifin would have really been the get there.

We're to a point where some guys are either going to be in Detroit or they're going to be dealt, so hopefully we start seeing some moves made. With the year some of these guys are having in Detroit, I don't think Yzerman will blink about just burying someone in GR if he wants a kid up. Detroit's been a fan of Wall for awhile, and I think he's out of waiver options. If he's not packaged for an upgrade somewhere, I can't see Yzerman letting him go through waivers.

I think Wallinder is still on ELC next season too, but yeah, if he can bump a plug this year...I am all in...if he gets up this year and can stick, or at least shows he belongs, it allows for ASP to have room next year to bump up at some point.

 

[Winger98]

I think Wallinder is still on ELC next season too, but yeah, if he can bump a plug this year...I am all in...if he gets up this year and can stick, or at least shows he belongs, it allows for ASP to have room next year to bump up at some point.

you are entirely correct. I have Walllinder's waiver year wrong. He can still pass thru next year.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

It would be nice to make a trade once in a while for a good player back...

 

[Snuggs]

It would be nice to make a trade once in a while for a good player back...

Red Wings Rumors: Detroit GM making trade offers as talks intensify

The Detroit Red Wings have been stuck in the middle of the NHL for a few years now and it's becoming quite clear GM Steve Yzerman is getting...

www.nhltraderumors.me

I've been posting rumors/nonsense beating the trade drums for awhile. This is the first time I've seen reported somewhere(anywhere) Yzerman is actively looking for a deal.

 

[wingsfannn919191]

Wont happen but anyways lol ...

Predators are a disaster right now and need a 2c and have 3 1sts ...

Compher to nashville for tampa's1st

Trade debrincat + gustaffson + Hanas + the later of the 3rd rounder to the rangers

For trouba retained at 6 +kakko + reilly smith + 1st rounder + emery

this move happens only with the agreement yzerman got that reilly Smith goes back to the only place he succeeded las vegas at 50% retained

Smith 50% + lyon + emery + chiarot 50%

For samsonov + holtz + hague

Vegas gets a better back up and regains Smith while losing holtz who only has a goal. They deal hague cause he'll need a new contract and replace him with chiarot at 2.375 for next season

Wings play out the rest of the way

Tarasenko larkin raymond
Berggen kasper kakko
Soderblom copp holtz
Rasmussen veleno fischer
Watson

Edvinsson seider
hague holl
Johansson trouba

talbot

Deal husso or Samsonov, deal kane somewhere

Wings can rotate soderblom with danielson and a few others in grand rapids and get some looks... get a glimpse at holtz as well

We probably have a good shot at a top 5 pick and We'll have tb and rangers 1st rounders yzerman can use in off season to add big pieces in the off season and turn things around quick

 

[Winger98]

I keep seeing Nic Hague come up in these threads and I never understand why. He's never averaged over 19 minutes in a season (he's averaging 16 this year), he's never put up significant numbers, and he's never been above 5th in IT for Vegas. He's huge and he takes the body, but he looks like another 3rd pair guy to me.

Maybe he could handle more than that, but if we're dealing for an upgrade I would really want someone with more of a track record of playing up the lineup.

 

[Oddbob]

Red Wings Rumors: Detroit GM making trade offers as talks intensify

The Detroit Red Wings have been stuck in the middle of the NHL for a few years now and it's becoming quite clear GM Steve Yzerman is getting...

www.nhltraderumors.me

I've been posting rumors/nonsense beating the trade drums for awhile. This is the first time I've seen reported somewhere(anywhere) Yzerman is actively looking for a deal.

That isn't a legitimate site for this stuff. They post stuff all the time and it is all speculation.

 

[Lampedampe]

What do you guys think about Trouba?

I haven't watched any NY games this year, but his stats don't look pretty. I fear that he will eventually agree to a trade to Detroit and put up an absolute stinker of a performance together with Chiarot on the second pair.

The problem with having Chiarot on the roster is that he just makes every partner worse, i don't want him playing with Seider again. This team really needs a physical defender that actually stays at home and defends. Are there any guys available out there that fits that bill (i'll take Ericsson v2 over Chiarot)?

 

[Fantast100]

Is Flyers' Rasmus Ristolainen a valuable trade target?

Anthony Di Marco of Daily Faceoff: The words few thought would ever hear is that Rasmus Ristolainen would be a solid trade chip have now been uttered. Now, this is coming from several outlets and not just ones based out of Philadelphia.

www.yardbarker.com

Ristolainen names being thrown out in trade rumors.


Normally I say crazy but... if Lyon is hurt for a few weeks an Husso has to play, would picking up Kahkonen for a week and waiving Husso be the smarter move?

We will no Ristolainen because he are Flyers shape.

If Lyon had break we may bringing prospect Cossa.

 

[TheOctopusKid]

What do you guys think about Trouba?

I haven't watched any NY games this year, but his stats don't look pretty. I fear that he will eventually agree to a trade to Detroit and put up an absolute stinker of a performance together with Chiarot on the second pair.

The problem with having Chiarot on the roster is that he just makes every partner worse, i don't want him playing with Seider again. This team really needs a physical defender that actually stays at home and defends. Are there any guys available out there that fits that bill (i'll take Ericsson v2 over Chiarot)?

Trouba is fine a 2nd Pair RHD.

The problem with Trouba is threefold:

... he's a NYR which means according to their fanbase, he's either the absolute best or the absolute worst player ever to exist ever.

He "selfishly" turned down a trade that would've saved the FO from their poor decision making because he wanted to stay in the city he chose and is the captain of and for his wife, and that also clouds peoples' opinions of him and again makes him evil and selfish

Lastly, he makes $8M dollars and is a stay-at-home tough guy who will never live up to that contract in terms of counting statistics. He is a tough, strong, character/leader/veteran, 30pt, stay-at-home 2nd Pair, RHD. That's not worth 8M dollars.

If you're asking - is he better than Petry? Not even close. Does he make our PK, 5on5 Defense, and give our younger D man a leader to look up? Absolutely. Is he worth $8M? Nope!

...but

Do we really care? He has this year and next before he's up at 32yo. He's not getting anywhere close to 8MAAV for his next deal and is he still a good player? Sure. So the question is, what does it cost to get him at retention? or for them to take back contract hit to offset the cost (Him for Holl for instance which makes it s 5M AAV diff)

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

I wonder if we suck if yzerman tries to move debrincat at the deadline for picks and prospects. Unlikely but I do expect him to be traded at some point, just not this year.

 

[lilidk]

Out: Kane Compher Veleno Motte Fischer Chiarot Petry Talbot

In: Buchelnikov(he’s so fkin good) Danielson MBN Mazur ASP(also very fkin good) Wallinder Cossa

Buchelnikov Larkin Raymond
Debrincat Kasper Berggren
Brandsegg-Nygard Danielson Tarasenko
Mazur Copp Rasmussen

Johansson Seider
Edvinsson Sandin-Pellika
Wallinder Holl/Gus

Lyon
Cossa

Youth movement 2025 please

I like Buchelnikov next season in GR probably MBN also. You can't bring 6 Rockies in NHL . Choose 2 or 3 prospects between Danielson, Mazur, Lombardi, Soderblom, Cossa and ASP to play next season.

 

[Fantast100]

I like Buchelnikov next season in GR probably MBN also. You can't bring 6 Rockies in NHL . Choose 2 or 3 prospects between Danielson, Mazur, Lombardi, Soderblom, Cossa and ASP to play next season.

The Red Wings choose: Buchelnikov, Brandsegg-Nygård, Sandin Pellikka and Cossa 2025-26.

The Red Wings choose: Lombardi 2026-27.