Salary Cap: 24-25 Salary Thread Crosbicles Volume MXIIX: Rust out, Marner in, all part of the plan!
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Malkinstheman
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It's just a news aggregator, I've seen a couple of other accounts confirm this
Empoleon8771
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I actually don't think the Rangers are all that likely to throw out an offersheet, they don't own their 2026 2nd so they can only go up to a $7 million offersheet and I think Buffalo would match that. They'd need to trade back for their 2026 2nd from Utah to make a run at Peterka, that said I think they could definitely do it.
I think a Peterka offersheet would probably be something around $8.5 million a year, so if the Rangers can get their 2nd back from Utah I can definitely see them making a run at him.
I think a Peterka offersheet would probably be something around $8.5 million a year, so if the Rangers can get their 2nd back from Utah I can definitely see them making a run at him.
Jared Grayden
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I'm guessing it's more to "encourage" a trade in the event that Buffalo doesn't want to. But I haven't listened to that segment yet. Friedman usually gives good context.
Empoleon8771
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Yeah it could be "accept Schneider and a 1st for Peterka or we'll offersheet him for a lesser return" type of situation.
Randy Butternubs
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Didn't Tarasenko allegedly come close to signing with the Pens as per an email mistake that the Pens sent out?
AuroraBorealis
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I don't think we should be giving out any long-term contracts at this time. Not until we start making clear inroads with the next core through the draft, and success in the playoffs is close to realism.
Only exception would be a very clear bargain that will be profitable in trade later.
Hague looks like a disaster contract waiting to happen, for whoever gets him. His analytics are horrific, and he's gonna want too much for way too long.
Yeah he can flip a switch and become the player he was a few years ago, maybe. But if you're banking on you're setting yourself up to fail.
I don't care if he's 26. Bad is still bad and overpriced is still overpriced.
Steer clear, Kyle.
Only exception would be a very clear bargain that will be profitable in trade later.
Hague looks like a disaster contract waiting to happen, for whoever gets him. His analytics are horrific, and he's gonna want too much for way too long.
Yeah he can flip a switch and become the player he was a few years ago, maybe. But if you're banking on you're setting yourself up to fail.
I don't care if he's 26. Bad is still bad and overpriced is still overpriced.
Steer clear, Kyle.
Jared Grayden
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Couldn't Dubas get him for something like a 3rd, extend him for 2 years, play him a bunch, and flip him? If he's half as bad as his underlying metrics, he'll be great for tanking. A top four of Hague, Graves, Letang, Timmins should be McKenna and Dupont worthy.
Jag68Sid87
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Has anybody actually asked EK65 if he wants out or heard rumblings that he is unhappy? People have been sending him to Ottawa and Carolina since last trade deadline, but is he unhappy? His worst season in the NHL is behind him now and there is a new era with a new head coach, staff and system coming. He has full control of his playing future, too.
Secondly, there is no need to sign long-term contracts in free agency this year. I think Dubas has already stated such. But if we trade top-end guys, you have to replace them because the cap floor is going up. Unless the plan is to acquire Shea Weber and Carey Price.
The problem with a guy like Nicolas Hague is that we already were burned by the Ryan Graves deal. We can't have two of those contracts. Which is why my preference is to trade for a younger left defenseman to play with Karlsson. Or if you can move Graves but that seems impossible.
In terms of long-term contracts in free agency, the list is 1. If Marner wants to reunite with Dubas, cool. Let's do it. Otherwise, I think we're good with UFAs.
So, if we switch the goaltending around it will probably be bad contract for Jarry. If we land a left defenseman it will likely be via trade.
The main thing I want to see this off-season is the off-loading of more bottom players, so that the likes of Pickering, Koivunen, Tomasino, McGroarty, Hallander and Blomqvist (and maybe Brunicke, the first-round pick, etc.) can get real playing time under the new coach. The blending of those guys with the veteran core could be the right mix (finally).
Secondly, there is no need to sign long-term contracts in free agency this year. I think Dubas has already stated such. But if we trade top-end guys, you have to replace them because the cap floor is going up. Unless the plan is to acquire Shea Weber and Carey Price.
The problem with a guy like Nicolas Hague is that we already were burned by the Ryan Graves deal. We can't have two of those contracts. Which is why my preference is to trade for a younger left defenseman to play with Karlsson. Or if you can move Graves but that seems impossible.
In terms of long-term contracts in free agency, the list is 1. If Marner wants to reunite with Dubas, cool. Let's do it. Otherwise, I think we're good with UFAs.
So, if we switch the goaltending around it will probably be bad contract for Jarry. If we land a left defenseman it will likely be via trade.
The main thing I want to see this off-season is the off-loading of more bottom players, so that the likes of Pickering, Koivunen, Tomasino, McGroarty, Hallander and Blomqvist (and maybe Brunicke, the first-round pick, etc.) can get real playing time under the new coach. The blending of those guys with the veteran core could be the right mix (finally).
AuroraBorealis
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The problem is that in that situation you're paying a pick to bring him here, and probably another pick to off-load him later. Or it could be retention or a roster player sweetener.
All for a guy who will play below his cap hit for you.
That's bad business. Dubas did good work in trades to bolster our pick count, and I don't wanna see them pissed away like that.
Plus Hague would block the development of our D prospects, at a time where that's very important.
He could block Pickering, who to me looks like top-4 regular potential. Maybe even starting next year.
Under Muse that seems realistic, with how much he'll be focused on youth.
Pieniniemi might be on the team in a few years. He seems to be developing well.
Fair point on tanking for McKenna, but keep in mind that even 32nd in the league only gets a 25.5% chance.
If you're willingly sacrificing assets just to tank, it's far more likely you get burned than succeed.
There's less damaging, more effective ways to tank.
DesertedPenguin
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Who cares if Karlsson is happy or not? He should be traded because you can get something valuable for him.
GilbertSeinfeld
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I wonder what pictures Chris Drury has on Patrick Verbeek.
Jag68Sid87
He's gone, gone gone!
NMC. If he is happy in Pittsburgh, he stays in Pittsburgh.
Our GM's name is not Kyle Drury.
AuroraBorealis
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At the deadline EK said that if he was approached to waive his NMC, he'd consider it, but that he was never asked.
So I don't think he's hell-bent on staying here, but not determined to leave either. Just sort of on cruise control, similar to his play in the defensive zone.
Fair. Still don't think it will be Pittsburgh.
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Sooo, it's been a few years since I've posted, due to the 'experts' here circle-jerking about what the Pens need.
I bit my tongue through the playoffs last year. But here we are again, and the 'lead story' on the SC Finals tonight was Sam Bennett. I remember saying he was the EXACT type of player we needed a few years ago, but naturally was met with the Sully replies of 'he's too slow', 'he doesn't play our style', 'he may get in a fight', 'he'll take a bad penalty', etc, etc, etc.
Hopefully most of you have moved on with your life's work, and leave the hockey analysis to people who aren't mentally challenged. The few clowns that may still be here pining about how the league 'should be' strictly about SPEEEEED!!!!, I hope you find the help you need
I bit my tongue through the playoffs last year. But here we are again, and the 'lead story' on the SC Finals tonight was Sam Bennett. I remember saying he was the EXACT type of player we needed a few years ago, but naturally was met with the Sully replies of 'he's too slow', 'he doesn't play our style', 'he may get in a fight', 'he'll take a bad penalty', etc, etc, etc.
Hopefully most of you have moved on with your life's work, and leave the hockey analysis to people who aren't mentally challenged. The few clowns that may still be here pining about how the league 'should be' strictly about SPEEEEED!!!!, I hope you find the help you need
DesertedPenguin
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Jared Grayden
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How would playoff performer Bennett help a team that can't even qualify for the playoffs? He's pretty ordinary in the regular season.
I am also sure he’s really excited at the thought of going out there while his team is getting it’s ass kicked every night while driving through shitty weather for most of the season
Pretty sure he’d waive that NMC lol
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Ugene Magic
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For one, Karlsson dictates everything. It's his right to say where, and that leaves Dubas the task of trying to get a good return in a non bidding situation.
It's a lose/lose situation. The team offering up doesn't have to cave and likely gets to get him for 50% for a shit return.
DesertedPenguin
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Players are traded with NMCs all of the time. The Penguins literally acquired him because he waived his NMC.
Dubas will find a couple of interested teams, get a sense of the potential return, and then go to Karlsson with options. Going to a contender will be an enticing move, especially if it's a team like Carolina, Dallas, or even going back to Ottawa and trying to get them over the hump.
Ugene Magic
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That was two summers ago after a 100 point season.
Carolina is the worst target, good luck trying to pry a 1st out of them and Dallas is a decent target, but they are in dire straits cap wise, and Ottawa, why?
DesertedPenguin
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Carolina previously expressed significant interest in Karlsson, is losing Brent Burns, and is still looking for the magic ingredients to get them over the hump.
Dallas is in a difficult cap situation but the Pens would be happy to help them with that if the Stars are willing to make it worth their while.
Ottawa is ready to take a big swing or two after getting back into the playoffs. Why not bring back a fan favorite to help a defensive corps that is pretty light on offense?
plaidchuck
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Speeds working pretty well for the oilers. Oh and having actual talent in their prime helps too. Also, was That type of player going to be a goaltender too “ a few years ago”
Empoleon8771
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Karlsson at $6 million to Carolina for Gostisbehere and a 2026 1st
Rakell to Detroit for Tarasenko, Willander and a 2025 1st (pick #14)
Get paid a 2nd or 3rd to take on Lybushkin
Koivunen-Crosby-Rust
McGroarty-Malkin-Tarasenko
Pickering/Willander-Letang
Gostisbehere-Lybushkin
Rakell to Detroit for Tarasenko, Willander and a 2025 1st (pick #14)
Get paid a 2nd or 3rd to take on Lybushkin
Koivunen-Crosby-Rust
McGroarty-Malkin-Tarasenko
Pickering/Willander-Letang
Gostisbehere-Lybushkin
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