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Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread IX

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Hookslide said:
Harry Sinden was here a lot longer, and he never won anything, but he did what Jacobs wanted, that is all that matters.
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Harry had to deal with the Habs Islanders Oilers and even the Pens.

Bruins had some great teams under Harry, not the soft as jello players that this GM has assembled over the years. This current team is an embarrassment to the uniform

Sinden was one of the best hockey minds ever in the sport, never mind his coaching.

His teams never took games off and usually left all they had on the ice, it became todays benchmark and the B's reputation that these clowns are trashing.
 
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wintersej said:
Out: Frederic + Carlo
In: LW better than Frederic + RD worse than Carlo

Mitigating factors: Carlo is signed to a nice deal with term and some trade protection, Frederic is a UFA, both are underperforming this year but have good track records. Bruins don’t really have room to add cap.

Anything out there that fits the bill? Basically you are looking for a skilled team that needs more umph and D.

Edit: the annoying thing is that the best candidates might be Buffalo and Ottawa, of course.
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What is your plan for the top 3 shit centers? Ever give it a thought that these garbage players couldn't help mike bossy look good.

Coyle and Lindholm belong on a fourth line at this stage, Coyle should be traded for a pick he's that bad. Yet here he is on a power play, How the F can you compete with this guy on your pp never mind playing on your top two lines

Laughingly I think Carlo has played much better of late so has Freddy.

Having third and forth line centers playing on your top two lines is the teams issue with scoring .

Will need to trade defenseman to fix the center spot, none of this dogs shit forward group would bring back a decent NHL player never mind a top two center-man unless its Pasta that gets sent packing.
 
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bp14 said:
I have to assume if they did it would be done by now
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Why tf would we do that?

Not in the business of subsidizing one of the only ppl who cares night in and night out so Vancouver can have him and make a playoff run with him
 
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wintersej said:
Out: Frederic + Carlo
In: LW better than Frederic + RD worse than Carlo

Mitigating factors: Carlo is signed to a nice deal with term and some trade protection, Frederic is a UFA, both are underperforming this year but have good track records. Bruins don’t really have room to add cap.

Anything out there that fits the bill? Basically you are looking for a skilled team that needs more umph and D.

Edit: the annoying thing is that the best candidates might be Buffalo and Ottawa, of course.
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I think Lindholm - Wotherspoon can be an underated pairing. The Bruins would need a much better 7D though to replace Oesterle. Before the Bruins make any big deals, I still think the Bruins need to give Poitras and Lysell shots on the roster.
 
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4ORRBRUIN said:
What is your plan for the top 3 shit centers? Ever give it a thought that these garbage players couldn't help mike bossy look good.

Coyle and Lindholm belong on a fourth line at this stage, Coyle should be traded for a pick he's that bad. Yet here he is on a power play, How the F can you compete with this guy on your pp never mind playing on your top two lines

Laughingly I think Carlo has played much better of late so has Freddy.

Having third and forth line centers playing on your top two lines is the teams issue with scoring .

Will need to trade defenseman to fix the center spot, none of this dogs shit forward group would bring back a decent NHL player never mind a top two center-man unless its Pasta that gets sent packing.
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So let’s take Zacha and Coyle first.

Do we think they they went from 59 and 60 point guys last year to being in pace for 32 and 19 points because they got that much worse or because the winger group around them lost DeBrusk, Heinen and JVR and replaced them with no one, Johnson, and Brazeau?

You might hold that no one, Johnson and Brazeau are just as good and it’s all on the centers. I can’t prove it either way. If you don’t, I don’t think it’s a leap to think that Lindholm being on pace for 40 instead of 60 points is out of line.

Look, it’s not an elite C group. But to me it’s 3 middle six centers that would be performing a lot better if the team didn’t have an unqualified UFA 4th liner at 1LW, a guy that was on an AHL (not even an NHL!) contract this time last year at 2RW and a cooked PTO guy at 3RW.
 
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wintersej said:
So let’s take Zacha and Coyle first.

Do we think they they went from 59 and 60 point guys last year to being in pace for 32 and 19 points because they got that much worse or because the winger group around them lost DeBrusk, Heinen and JVR and replaced them with no one, Johnson, and Brazeau?

You might hold that no one, Johnson and Brazeau are just as good and it’s all on the centers. I can’t prove it either way. If you don’t, I don’t think it’s a leap to think that Lindholm being on pace for 40 instead of 60 points is out of line.

Look, it’s not an elite C group. But to me it’s 3 middle six centers that would be performing a lot better if the team didn’t have an unqualified UFA 4th liner at 1LW, a guy that was on an AHL (not even an NHL!) contract this time last year at 2RW and a cooked PTO guy at 3RW.
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I think Coyle fell off a cliff because he's a soft millennial that likes the celebrity status of being a local guy on the team and didn't work out in the summer. Had a kid doesn't care anymore and just going through the motions.

Sweeney is pathetic for not having the balls to trade him Neely too Sinden would never let a player pull that crap.
 
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Absurdity said:
I think Lindholm - Wotherspoon can be an underated pairing. The Bruins would need a much better 7D though to replace Oesterle. Before the Bruins make any big deals, I still think the Bruins need to give Poitras and Lysell shots on the roster.
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Agree on Wotherspoon, but that UFA status and the fact that the Bruins had 9 guys play at least 35 games last year gets you a little nervous. Guess it depends on how you feel about Regula, which I can’t say I am qualified to have an opinion on. It can be a big downgrade on Carlo if that means a big upgrade on Frederic, but I’d prefer closer to a 6D than a 7D.
 
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BigGoalBrad said:
I think Coyle fell off a cliff because he's a soft millennial that likes the celebrity status of being a local guy on the team and didn't work out in the summer. Had a kid doesn't care anymore and just going through the motions.

Sweeney is pathetic for not having the balls to trade him Neely too Sinden would never let a player pull that crap.
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Strange he had his career best year after his daughter was born.
 
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4ORRBRUIN said:
What is your plan for the top 3 shit centers? Ever give it a thought that these garbage players couldn't help mike bossy look good.

Coyle and Lindholm belong on a fourth line at this stage, Coyle should be traded for a pick he's that bad. Yet here he is on a power play, How the F can you compete with this guy on your pp never mind playing on your top two lines

Laughingly I think Carlo has played much better of late so has Freddy.

Having third and forth line centers playing on your top two lines is the teams issue with scoring .

Will need to trade defenseman to fix the center spot, none of this dogs shit forward group would bring back a decent NHL player never mind a top two center-man unless its Pasta that gets sent packing.
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Coyle is tied with Pasta for most power play goals with 3.

Considering Pasta usually stay out for most of the power play while Coyle barely plays on it, I think its safe to say Coyle is the most productive Bruin player on the PP.

BigGoalBrad said:
I think Coyle fell off a cliff because he's a soft millennial that likes the celebrity status of being a local guy on the team and didn't work out in the summer. Had a kid doesn't care anymore and just going through the motions.

Sweeney is pathetic for not having the balls to trade him Neely too Sinden would never let a player pull that crap.
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You have quite the imagination.
 
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What about trying Coyle on the wing ? It’s not ideal but didn’t Geekie and Frederic play well together last year? Let them sink or swim together on line 3 . Move Coyle up . Couldn’t his puck possession skills help line 1 or 2 ?
 
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wintersej said:
So let’s take Zacha and Coyle first.

Do we think they they went from 59 and 60 point guys last year to being in pace for 32 and 19 points because they got that much worse or because the winger group around them lost DeBrusk, Heinen and JVR and replaced them with no one, Johnson, and Brazeau?

You might hold that no one, Johnson and Brazeau are just as good and it’s all on the centers. I can’t prove it either way. If you don’t, I don’t think it’s a leap to think that Lindholm being on pace for 40 instead of 60 points is out of line.

Look, it’s not an elite C group. But to me it’s 3 middle six centers that would be performing a lot better if the team didn’t have an unqualified UFA 4th liner at 1LW, a guy that was on an AHL (not even an NHL!) contract this time last year at 2RW and a cooked PTO guy at 3RW.
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Exactly. Well put.
 
KrejciWinger said:
I know this FO plays things safe but I'm genuinely surprised Poitras + Lysell haven't been called up yet.

I also wonder how much say Sacco has vs. Sweeney for lineup changes. Im guessing it's a different dynamic than Monty who had the option to get hired elsewhere.

Another thing to note: Sacco's Jack Adams nominated season he succeeded with an an extremely young Colorado lineup. His top scorers were:

Statsny (23), Duchene (18), Stewart (21), Wolski (23), Hejduk (33), Galiardi (21), O'Reilly (18), Mueller (21).

It's a different league now, but I still thought that was interesting.

Ether way, it's Don Sweeney who holds the cards. I'm very curious how how he'll handle things before the roster freeze.
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Lysell hasn't earned it. You can say "Ok but just bring him up and see.." But what message does it send to call up a guy who's now playing on the AHL 3rd line?
 
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Dennis Bonvie said:
Coyle is tied with Pasta for most power play goals with 3.

Considering Pasta usually stay out for most of the power play while Coyle barely plays on it, I think its safe to say Coyle is the most productive Bruin player on the PP.



You have quite the imagination.
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Your reply is more about Pasta being garbage than patting Coyle on the back?

One assist all season is pathetic. The guys a bum
 
KPD in today’s Globe:


“Take this to the bank: If rumors lead to reality and the beleaguered Rangers put Chris Kreider up for trade, he would sign off on a deal that would send him home to the Bruins. Among the roadblocks: the $6.5 million cap hit on Kreider’s deal that still has 2¾ seasons to go. To make room for him, the Bruins would need to move out roughly $5.5 million in cap money, be it in roster bodies sent to New York or elsewhere …”
 
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