Rumor: 23-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part Trois: The Road to the Deadline

[henchman21]

Lehkonen is literally our only top 6 wing without question marks around him and the cheapest of the bunch. He's also the exact type of player you win cups with.

When you start moving your good contracts to keep the bad ones you're doomed.

I can follow that logic… but how do you make room without drastically hurting the team? Mikko is probably the response, but how often does a team trade the best player in the deal and end up better that season?

 

[the_fan]

Jenner is quickly becoming one of the overrated players on this board. He’s a good player who scores about 40 points a season, but reading about him here, one would think he’s like a 100 point player

 

[avalanche_country]

There’s no way Rants get more than MacK with the Avs.

The Duchene cap has been replaced with the MacK cap

 

[BrickNHL]

Yeah no

To be fair, he’s fighting noted tough guy, Alex Burrows’ son

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Moving Rants would either extend our window and make us a more balanced team or completely f*** us, and there's no way to know ahead of time. I can see both side of the argument. I love the dude, but he's going to be the biggest issue soon.

I agree. It would be a huge gamble.

There’s no way Rants get more than MacK with the Avs.

The Duchene cap has been replaced with the MacK cap

and we shouldnt.

 

[Avs44]

I can follow that logic… but how do you make room without drastically hurting the team? Mikko is probably the response, but how often does a team trade the best player in the deal and end up better that season?

It obviously depends a lot on how this season ends...and we can't really predict the future with the massive uncertainties around Landy and Nuke...but assuming both Nuke and Landy are on next year's roster, it seems to me that accepting a "down" year for 2024-2025 and trading Rantanen this offseason for a nice package of younger players to an Eastern Conference team looking to make a huge splash makes the most sense. And this should be accompanied by going absolutely all in this season to hopefully get another cup with Rantanen on the team.

Now, I don't think that'll happen -- I think the Avs will make the safe move (like most teams) and pay up for Rantanen while clearing space elsewhere -- but even if they move Lehkonen to clear that space...I don't think it's all that feasible to win a cup after 2025 if they're paying Rantanen north of 12 million, Landeskog 7 million (assuming he's no longer prime Landy but a middle six version of his old self), and Nuke 6.125.

Obviously moving Rantanen would have tons of risks, ones I don't think this management group will make, but it seems to be the best way to extend the window. Otherwise, if Rantanen gets ~12.5 million (which is probably conservative), we're looking at 55 million locked into our top center, three top wingers, and two top defensmen? That's too top heavy. As I see it, either the window slams shut after 2025 or you take the risk of closing the window in 2024-2025 and hope that you can build back into it the year after.

 

[Bensch88]

And I want to bang Allison Brie.

Same bro same

 

[AllAboutAvs]

Let's not forget that a Mikko deal will certainly come with an NMC attached to it for probably the first 4 years so impossible to move him unless he agrees to it. It really needs to be this summer but as I said they can't screw that up. I'm OK with the team having a down year next season if he is traded and it extends the window for a few more years after that. They need to give it their best shot this season though if they go that route.

 

[henchman21]

Even if it is only one down year, you’d be starting that season with MacK, Nuke, Landy, Toews, Lehky, and Wood all on the wrong side of 30. Colton at 29. Then hoping at very minimum Ritchie and the top prospect you got in the Rants trade would be immediately ready as impact guys that season. That is an awfully big ask and threading a needle. I just really don’t see that as a window extending move… its more of a closing and re-tooling move that you hope the core forwards are still capable at 33-35 when you come out of it (the LA model).

It isn’t impossible certainly… it just seems like a very narrow path to success.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

I don´t see how a Rantanen trade extends the window, it more likely ends it. The team needs to win right now before the eventual plunge into darkness.

 

[Bender]

Jenner is quickly becoming one of the overrated players on this board. He’s a good player who scores about 40 points a season, but reading about him here, one would think he’s like a 100 point player

But...but... he can MENTOR young players for the next 4 years before he retires !!! Surely THAT - and that alone - will transform the blue jackets from perrenial bottow-dwellers to multiple-time Stanley Cup Champions!

My only question is this : is the mentorship just going to start like right now or has it been happening this whole time?

 

[Balthazar]

There’s no way Rants get more than MacK with the Avs.

The Duchene cap has been replaced with the MacK cap

Makar's agent:

 

[the_fan]

But...but... he can MENTOR young players for the next 4 years before he retires !!! Surely THAT - and that alone - will transform the blue jackets from perrenial bottow-dwellers to multiple-time Stanley Cup Champions!

My only question is this : is the mentorship just going to start like right now or has it been happening this whole time?

Jackets don’t need mentorship, they just need to keep signing expensive UFAs

 

[Foppa2118]

I don´t see how a Rantanen trade extends the window, it more likely ends it. The team needs to win right now before the eventual plunge into darkness.

I feel the same. They'd have to pull off a Huberdeau for Tkchauk kind of lateral move that pays off. Not a package deal, which would make them worse.

And Florida kind of lucked their way into that. Both with Tkchauk being available and in control to an extent where he went and signed an extension.

Can't really plan on that situation happening for the Avs, so you can't really plan on trading Mikko and expecting your team to be at the same level.

 

[Avs44]

Makar's agent:

Not a problem; he's off to Calgary in 2027 anyways

 

[lionsDen]

yes she's smoking , and there is hope. Pete Davidson did lol

I just looked her up. She’s an alien look at the size of her forehead

 

[Foppa2118]

Exactly this, you don't worry about your legacy; it's determined by how many Cups you win with a contending team.

Think of Pierre Lacroix. All-in every single season when you're blessed with multiple elite players. Trade for Theo Fleury, it didn't work out, but did he "learn" from that and change his ways? Hell no. All-in again for Bourque, Blake... you keep going with the eye on the ultimate prize.

You can't compare strategies in the pre cap NHL to the cap NHL. PL's success was entirely different under the cap.

Sakic and CMac win one more Cup with their strategy of giving themselves multiple shots at a Cup with a long window, instead of the all in every year approach that only gives you 2 or 3, and they match what PL achieved anyway.

 

[hockeyfish]

Insert it's happening gif

 

[AllAboutAvs]

There is the domino we were waiting for.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Trade for Buchnevich and permanently move him to C

 

[BobRossColton]

Trade for Buchnevich and permanently move him to C

Would that work? 5.8m next year too..

 

[Balthazar]

Would that work?

 

[BobRossColton]

Didn't think so.

 

[The Moops]

Trade for Buchnevich and permanently move him to C

The guy who got his shit kicked in by Naz?

 

[BaconNater]

Acceptable outcomes: Kadri, Middlestadt
HfAvs unacceptable outcomes: anyone else in this years deadline rumors

Good list?

But for real the Kefoort "rumor" is perfect for the crappy deadline thoughts around here haha