UncleRisto
Not Great, Bob!
I guess they aren't taking RyJo
Our 2C, no!
I guess they aren't taking RyJo
I'd argue on the home board there is more petty BS... just like your annoying family member you have to jab from time to time.sadly, those few are often some of the loudest.
Expect in on the mains, but you'd think by know the "home" board would have weeded this out.
Can't go back and correct the past. The Manson contract never should've happened, Lehkonen to some extent is iffy due to positional value, and we all know the current Val situation.
Kadri is easily the top choice among those but at the time they may have felt otherwise because they still had the Newhook hope, maybe thought they could make the EJ trade, or find a cheaper replacement. None of that should stop them from trying to acquire Kadri now if he was available, which I doubt he is so it's moot.
I'm sorry but no it's not. A 25G 60P, elite defensively, CLUTCH come playoff times winger signed for 5x4.5M is iffy in what f***ing way?Lehkonen to some extent is iffy due to positional value
I'm sorry but no it's not. A 25G 60P, elite defensively, CLUTCH come playoff times winger signed for 5x4.5M is iffy in what f***ing way?
Lehky away from the top line and power play is not a 60 point guy (arguably he hasn't been, just paced well last season in year 1 of the deal). He's a swiss army knife top 9 winger who can play on any of the lines, but not an offensive driver.I'm sorry but no it's not. A 25G 60P, elite defensively, CLUTCH come playoff times winger signed for 5x4.5M is iffy in what f***ing way?
Lehk and Nuke were great decisions. It's unfortunate that Nuke can't stay clean. Hopefully he turns it around from here and we don't have to deal with this constant question mark of will he be available or not.I'm sorry but no it's not. A 25G 60P, elite defensively, CLUTCH come playoff times winger signed for 5x4.5M is iffy in what f***ing way?
I'm sorry but no it's not. A 25G 60P, elite defensively, CLUTCH come playoff times winger signed for 5x4.5M is iffy in what f***ing way?
And I'm not suggesting that he is. He's a really great complementary piece, that helps you win. And you have him for a bargain. You need those complementary pieces. And IMO, you could half the production from Lehkonen and he would still be worth his current contract because of his defensive impact.Lehky away from the top line and power play is not a 60 point guy (arguably he hasn't been, just paced well last season in year 1 of the deal). He's a swiss army knife top 9 winger who can play on any of the lines, but not an offensive driver.
I'm sorry but no it's not. A 25G 60P, elite defensively, CLUTCH come playoff times winger signed for 5x4.5M is iffy in what f***ing way?
And I'm not suggesting that he is. He's a really great complementary piece, that helps you win. And you have him for a bargain. You need those complementary pieces. And IMO, you could half the production from Lehkonen and he would still be worth his current contract because of his defensive impact.
I don't think anyone is arguing that, in fact it's that very manageable number he's signed to that makes him a more moveable asset. If the Avs weren't so top-heavy on the wings it would be a different story.Lehkonen is on an awesome contract. I’ll never understand the line of thinking that players who can produce when given time with top players and on the powerplay is any sort of knock on the player.
In my eyes it’s a fantastic attribute to have to be able to play with other top end players while not being quite as skilled as them and not look out of place. Mack loves playing with Lehky for a reason.
Anyone on a good contract is a more moveable asset. I've seen the argument made numerous times over the years on wingers like Kunitz, Dupuis, Hyman, Bunting, Lehkonen, it just doesn't make sense to me. You'd want a player who can produce with top guys and on the powerplay as opposed to players who can't.I don't think anyone is arguing that, in fact it's that very manageable number he's signed to that makes him a more moveable asset. If the Avs weren't so top-heavy on the wings it would be a different story.
It's the old 'Crosby can play with anybody and they can put up 60p' sort of thing. Lehky does all things you want in a complimentary winger. But without top line time, his contract just moves to fair value due to the offensive driving limitations he has. If he was a legit driver of offense like say Hagel in Tampa... he'd easily be worth 6.5+m. Without that driving ability, he's paid close to market. Teams will value him because he can play on any line with a variety of types of players. He's probably the 3rd most valuable forward on the team tradewise right now.Lehkonen is on an awesome contract. I’ll never understand the line of thinking that players who can produce when given time with top players and on the powerplay is any sort of knock on the player.
In my eyes it’s a fantastic attribute to have to be able to play with other top end players while not being quite as skilled as them and not look out of place. Mack loves playing with Lehky for a reason.
This. ^^^I'd keep Lehkonen over Rantanen, honestly.
*watches as people freak out because they think I said Lehkonen is better than Rantanen
It would likely be fine for 2-3 years... but the back end will be an anchor.This. ^^^
Rants at $13 Mil is going to be a nightmare, and I hope it's some other team's bad dream.
If we pay Rants 13+ EVERYBODY has to be fired on the spot. I like this dude and his production on most nights, but if he demands a penny more than Pasta (and i don't care about a rising cap), his ass needs to be on the way out of town.This. ^^^
Rants at $13 Mil is going to be a nightmare, and I hope it's some other team's bad dream.
He has the grounds to ask pretty much as much as Pasta, and like it or not, the cap rising is a thing.If we pay Rants 13+ EVERYBODY has to be fired on the spot. I like this dude and his production on most nights, but if he demands a penny more than Pasta (and i don't care about a rising cap), his ass needs to be on the way out of town.
This is why we need to trade him because he will absolutely ask for more than Pasta. We can’t pay him 13M+ just simply can’t do it. Matthews extended for 13.25 this past summer and he’s twice the player Mikko’s been this season.If we pay Rants 13+ EVERYBODY has to be fired on the spot. I like this dude and his production on most nights, but if he demands a penny more than Pasta (and i don't care about a rising cap), his ass needs to be on the way out of town.