Rumor: 23-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part Trois: The Road to the Deadline

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

This is not a babe thread.

Blame whoever first brought up Kerfoot.

 

[the_fan]

Oh no...a dent in CMac's resume. The legacy of destroying a juggernaut Cup winning team, while being gifted a team with 2 of the 3 best players in the league.

If that moron is worried about his legacy when thinking about trades, he's even more f***ing stupid then I thought.

All I’m saying is if they wanted Kadri they could have just resigned him. I just don’t see CMac trading for him now. We can just close this conversation, or you guys can keep on dreaming about getting Naz back

 

[RoyIsALegend]

All I’m saying is if they wanted Kadri they could have just resigned him. I just don’t see CMac trading for him now. We can just close this conversation, or you guys can keep on dreaming about getting Naz back

All we are saying is that it wasn't that simple; the Avs didn't have the cap space to just re-sign Kadri.

- Landeskog was expected to come back and not be a LTIR casualty for the entire season
- Wood/Colton was the following season
- EJ and Anaheim didn't want to compromise to make the deal happen
- ERod wouldn't have been signed
- Kadri literally waited a month for the dependent moves to happen

Dominoes can be fun, but if the first one doesn't want to fall...

 

[the_fan]

All we are saying is that it wasn't that simple; the Avs didn't have the cap space to just re-sign Kadri.

- Landeskog was expected to come back and not be a LTIR casualty for the entire season
- Wood/Colton was the following season
- EJ and Anaheim didn't want to compromise to make the deal happen
- ERod wouldn't have been signed
- Kadri literally waited a month for the dependent moves to happen

Dominoes can be fun, but if the first one doesn't want to fall...

I still don’t see a trade where we get Kadri back. If I’m not mistaking, the report was that Avs didn’t want to give long term to Naz but they were willing to give him like a 4 year deal or something.

 

[henchman21]

All I’m saying is if they wanted Kadri they could have just resigned him. I just don’t see CMac trading for him now. We can just close this conversation, or you guys can keep on dreaming about getting Naz back

You could make the same exact argument for JMFJ... and he ended up back here. The point isn't about dreaming about Naz... it is that decisions or inability to sign a player years ago doesn't mean they won't try to re-acquire a player. Outright excluding that ignores the fact that this front office has done this multiple times... JMFJ, Soda, Nieto, and Nemeth all in recent seasons.

If the Avs could re-acquire Kadri at a reasonable price, they'd look into it.

I still don’t see a trade where we get Kadri back. If I’m not mistaking, the report was that Avs didn’t want to give long term to Naz but they were willing to give him like a 4 year deal or something.

The Avs were very close to what Calgary ended up signing him for. The whole kicker is the Avs wouldn't give up a first to send EJ packing to Anaheim (and some rumors of EJ not being keen on it exist)... to when Anaheim gave up on it and signed Klingberg with that cap space to try to get that first (which didn't work out for them).

 

[RoyIsALegend]

The Avs were very close to what Calgary ended up signing him for. The whole kicker is the Avs wouldn't give up a first to send EJ packing to Anaheim (and some rumors of EJ not being keen on it exist)... to when Anaheim gave up on it and signed Klingberg with that cap space to try to get that first (which didn't work out for them).

I don't want to go too far down a rabbit hole with scenarios that didn't end up happening, but my understanding was the Avs were ready to cough up the 1st. It was EJ that was continuously flipflopping on whether he would go. He was extremely emotional and sentimental about the recent Cup win and a chance to do it a second time vs. helping the org out and living on his ranch outside of Anaheim.

Players on the team were fully aware of EJ essentially having his bags packed and ready to go, he was transparent with his teammates on what was happening. I even posted that a player on the team was ready to get traded in the next few days and then took a bunch of shit from people because it didn't ultimately happen. Haven't shared trade insights since then.

At the end of the day, his heart strings pulled on remaining in Denver and going for another run.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Exactly this, you don't worry about your legacy; it's determined by how many Cups you win with a contending team.

Think of Pierre Lacroix. All-in every single season when you're blessed with multiple elite players. Trade for Theo Fleury, it didn't work out, but did he "learn" from that and change his ways? Hell no. All-in again for Bourque, Blake... you keep going with the eye on the ultimate prize.

It sometimes seems like CM views everyseason like hes packing up the car and taking a trip to Disneyworld. The fun part for him is to guess how much fuel it takes to get there and bring only that much cash to get there while leaving the plastic at home.

He misjudged last year, though if you ask him, thats probably Landeskog's and Nichushkin's fault. If not for Nichushkin, he probably had just enough quarters to make it.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

I don't want to go too far down a rabbit hole with scenarios that didn't end up happening, but my understanding was the Avs were ready to cough up the 1st. It was EJ that was continuously flipflopping on whether he would go. He was extremely emotional and sentimental about the recent Cup win and a chance to do it a second time vs. helping the org out and living on his ranch outside of Anaheim.

Players on the team were fully aware of EJ essentially having his bags packed and ready to go, he was transparent with his teammates on what was happening. I even posted that a player on the team was ready to get traded in the next few days and then took a bunch of shit from people because it didn't ultimately happen. Haven't shared trade insights since then.

At the end of the day, his heart strings pulled on remaining in Denver and going for another run.

You shouldn't let a few hot heads dictate your posts. I know it is easy for me to say that. I'm sure it is frustrating when someone tries to pass on some info and just because it doesn't happen people come at that poster with pitchforks.

I and many others here value your insights on potential trades/moves. Please keep them coming.

 

[henchman21]

You shouldn't let a few hot heads dictate your posted. I know it is easy for me to say that. I'm it is frustrating when someone tries to pass on some info and just because it doesn't happen people come at that poster with pitchforks.

I and many others here value your insights on potential trades/moves. Please keep them coming.

The few ruin it for all.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

The few ruin it for all.

Unfortunately that is so true.

 

[EdAVSfan]

I don't want to go too far down a rabbit hole with scenarios that didn't end up happening, but my understanding was the Avs were ready to cough up the 1st. It was EJ that was continuously flipflopping on whether he would go. He was extremely emotional and sentimental about the recent Cup win and a chance to do it a second time vs. helping the org out and living on his ranch outside of Anaheim.

Players on the team were fully aware of EJ essentially having his bags packed and ready to go, he was transparent with his teammates on what was happening. I even posted that a player on the team was ready to get traded in the next few days and then took a bunch of shit from people because it didn't ultimately happen. Haven't shared trade insights since then.

At the end of the day, his heart strings pulled on remaining in Denver and going for another run.

Many of us, and I say many, but it’s definitely most of us, would love to continue to get these insights.

Block the turds who give you shit.

 

[Balthazar]

I don't want to go too far down a rabbit hole with scenarios that didn't end up happening, but my understanding was the Avs were ready to cough up the 1st. It was EJ that was continuously flipflopping on whether he would go. He was extremely emotional and sentimental about the recent Cup win and a chance to do it a second time vs. helping the org out and living on his ranch outside of Anaheim.

Players on the team were fully aware of EJ essentially having his bags packed and ready to go, he was transparent with his teammates on what was happening. I even posted that a player on the team was ready to get traded in the next few days and then took a bunch of shit from people because it didn't ultimately happen. Haven't shared trade insights since then.

At the end of the day, his heart strings pulled on remaining in Denver and going for another run.

Sounds like EJ took a long ass time to decide what he wanted to do which is why Kadri stayed in limbo until very deep in the offseason.

EJ says yes to the Ducks trade = Kadri can stay
EJ declines the trade = Kadri accepts the CGY offer

That situation must have sucked for everyone involved, including EJ who was basically asked to sacrifice himself and give a chance to the others to win again without him.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

I don't want to go too far down a rabbit hole with scenarios that didn't end up happening, but my understanding was the Avs were ready to cough up the 1st. It was EJ that was continuously flipflopping on whether he would go. He was extremely emotional and sentimental about the recent Cup win and a chance to do it a second time vs. helping the org out and living on his ranch outside of Anaheim.

Players on the team were fully aware of EJ essentially having his bags packed and ready to go, he was transparent with his teammates on what was happening. I even posted that a player on the team was ready to get traded in the next few days and then took a bunch of shit from people because it didn't ultimately happen. Haven't shared trade insights since then.

At the end of the day, his heart strings pulled on remaining in Denver and going for another run.

RIAL, you just need to use the Dater approach and say you were stuck in an elevator that, for some reason, also worked as an Faraday Cage and blocked your ability to update everyone that the deal was called off due to "reasons". I personally appreciate when you do share any of the info you get, and also realize that things in professional sports are fluid and can change very quickly.

 

[henchman21]

Many of us, and I say many, but it’s definitely most of us, would love to continue to get these insights.

Block the turds who give you shit.

Even if you block… shit still builds and it isn’t like you don’t see the one sided responses. That sometimes turns into another poster starting the same nonsense. It becomes whack a mole of energy vampires.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Honestly, if the Avs (mostly CMac) don't do anything at the deadline, I kinda want to see Vegas go full troll mode and exceed the cap by such a silly number that they make the league look like a joke. I'm talking they acquire Guentzel, but then Guentzel magically goes on LTIR as well and they just keep going down the route until their roster is 200+ million,

 

[hockeyfish]

Honestly, if the Avs (mostly CMac) don't do anything at the deadline, I kinda want to see Vegas go full troll mode and exceed the cap by such a silly number that they make the league look like a joke. I'm talking they acquire Guentzel, but then Guentzel magically goes on LTIR as well and they just keep going down the route until their roster is 200+ million,

Weber, Vorachek, and Little are totally getting traded to Vegas.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

RIAL is a hack. Don’t trust anything he says!!!

 

[Ararana]

I don't want to go too far down a rabbit hole with scenarios that didn't end up happening, but my understanding was the Avs were ready to cough up the 1st. It was EJ that was continuously flipflopping on whether he would go. He was extremely emotional and sentimental about the recent Cup win and a chance to do it a second time vs. helping the org out and living on his ranch outside of Anaheim.

Players on the team were fully aware of EJ essentially having his bags packed and ready to go, he was transparent with his teammates on what was happening. I even posted that a player on the team was ready to get traded in the next few days and then took a bunch of shit from people because it didn't ultimately happen. Haven't shared trade insights since then.

At the end of the day, his heart strings pulled on remaining in Denver and going for another run.

And now he's in Buffalo . Great job there, Erik.

 

[dahrougem2]

Honestly, if the Avs (mostly CMac) don't do anything at the deadline, I kinda want to see Vegas go full troll mode and exceed the cap by such a silly number that they make the league look like a joke. I'm talking they acquire Guentzel, but then Guentzel magically goes on LTIR as well and they just keep going down the route until their roster is 200+ million,

Isn't there an LTIR pool limit?

 

[UncleRisto]

Blame whoever first brought up Kerfoot.

I don't remember anyone bringing up Jost in this thread.

 

[Balthazar]

I guess they aren't taking RyJo

 

[Alienblood]

dont tease me like this

I'm with ya I'm an old Nordiques fan and Quebec and Boston are closest for me

 

[AslanRH]

The few ruin it for all.

sadly, those few are often some of the loudest.
Expect in on the mains, but you'd think by know the "home" board would have weeded this out.

 

[S E P H]

I am actually a big fan of Carcone, he reminds me a lot of Mangiapane who I am also a big fan of. He doesn't solve the centre issues, but he'd be a solid addition.

 

[sethro109]

I am actually a big fan of Carcone, he reminds me a lot of Mangiapane who I am also a big fan of. He doesn't solve the centre issues, but he'd be a solid addition.

He'd be a nice upgrade over Kivi at the same price tag. I'm down.