Rumor: 23-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part Trois: The Road to the Deadline

[Chibby]

Look, if it’s Wennberg, it better be RyJo going the other way

 

[The Abusement Park]

Because you're not adding a 60 point center asset free on a reasonable deal in UFA. You're giving up prime assets for one, and then have to re-sign him after just a few games and risk an overpayment.

Correct? We have an excess of dmen so moving one of them for a good C would make sense in balancing the team.

 

[Foppa2118]

Correct? We have an excess of dmen so moving one of them for a good C would make sense in balancing the team.

This is why Mitts being a 60 point center is relevant. A 60 point center is fine. Giving up prime assets for one is not.

Especially when Henrique won't cost prime assets, and is scoring at a higher goal pace, and just a slightly lower point pace at 56. He's also much better on faceoffs. 52.9% vs 47.1%.

 

[Chibby]

It’s not a question of ifberg, but Wennberg

 

[AllAboutAvs]

I would much prefer Henrique to Wennberg if we cannot get Mitts or Zegras.

 

[Mighty Makar]

What about Henrique and Ifberg?

 

[The Abusement Park]

This is why Mitts being a 60 point center is relevant. A 60 point center is fine. Giving up prime assets for one is not.

Especially when Henrique won't cost prime assets, and is scoring at a higher goal pace, and just a slightly lower point pace at 56. He's also much better on faceoffs.

Henrique isn’t a full time center, is old and not a long term solution… Mitts is prime aged and a long term solution. Of course there’s a difference in asking price.

 

[lonelybadger]

Sidney Crosby is a former Tim Hortons employee turned hockey hall of famer.

 

[Chiarelli]

3C + 3C = 6C whereas 2C + 3C only = 5C

 

[Foppa2118]

Henrique isn’t a center, is old and not a long term solution… Mitts is prime aged and a long term solution. Of course there’s a difference in asking price.

This is said a lot, but he plays a lot of center, and clearly plays it well enough to come within a few points of Mitts. Doesn't matter if he's not a full time center. If he can play center, that's all that matters.

Mitts being a long term solution is what risks an overpayment as soon as next year, when they need to be smart about their cap. Avs might already have their long term solution in Ritchie anyway.

The Ducks move Henrique around as their veteran swiss army knife, to accommodate their top young talents. Even when not officially listed at center in the lineup on a given night, he's often taking a lot of the center duties defensively and most the of the draws. This year there's been a revolving door of injuries between Zegras, McTavish, Carlsson, so that's led to Rico playing more full time down the middle. But definitely was doing a bit of a winger/center hybrid thing while Zegras was first getting his feet wet at the center position, and never seems to have any trouble seamlessly moving between center and wing.

 

[The Abusement Park]

This is said a lot, but he plays a lot of center, and clearly plays it well enough to come within a few points of Mitts. Doesn't matter if he's not a full time center. If he can play center, that's all that matters.

Mitts being a long term solution is what risks a long term overpayment. Avs might already have their long term solution in Ritchie anyway.

Even then, he’s 34. Again not a long term solution whereas you’d be getting Mitts through the end of his prime and our contention window.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

We could sign Mitts for 7M max I would think. You keep him until Ritchie is ready then you trade him to recoup some assets.

 

[jabubenice]

i am scared shitless about what Cmac might do...

 

[Foppa2118]

We could sign Mitts for 7M max I would think. You keep him until Ritchie is ready then you trade him to recoup some assets.

Not recouping much if he stays a 60 point center at $7M or regresses though.

A $7M center will likely lose other key forwards here too. This is just one reason why we're not adding a 60 point center in a vacuum.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

So 5 teams are looking at Wennberg. He must be really good if there are that many teams interested.

 

[BrickNHL]

Wennberg would be a solid addition if Colton had more talent

Still better than doing nothing but not an ideal add

 

[AllAboutAvs]

Not recouping much if stays a 60 point center at $7M or regresses though.

I'm not afraid of that.

 

[henchman21]

It’s not a question of ifberg, but Wennberg

Dad?

 

[Pokecheque]

I am prepared for literally any center or forward the Avs get who may have a rep for winning faceoffs to get their asses handed to them on draws the moment they don the burgundy and blue.

One thing I've always been curious about with Bednar's system is that it really doesn't seem to even emphasize faceoff wins. Like, I've observed other coaches have their players do a lot more to gain possession after the draw, like sending in a winger to collapse in toward the dot or sending a guy immediately ahead to whoever is behind the opposing center. Avs just...don't really care to do that. What's more, that kind of shit gets done TO them plenty.

I think that's a reason why they appear to still suck at faceoffs even when they have guys who can legitimately win them. A Conor McGahey quote still sticks with me--"Even when the Avs win faceoffs they lose them."

 

[Foppa2118]

I'm not afraid of that.

 

[Muffin]

I just want Crosby and Saros. Don't think that's a lot to ask for.

 

[AvalancheSpeedsters]

I’m hearing I’ll be disappointed come Friday. Sad if true.

That’s what the wife keeps telling me

 

[twostroke2023]

I’m ready for everyone to be upset if we trade for Wennberg.

I’m also ready for everyone to be upset if we don’t trade for Wennberg

This is the most accurate statement I’ve ever seen about these boards

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[AvsCOL]

If it’s true about Landeskog coming back, the Avs absolutely need to be all in. Screw the first round picks, go get your guy. This team has most of the pieces for another cup.