GDT: 2024-25 season game 22 LA Kings vs San Jose Sharks @7:00pm 11/25/24

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Los Angeles Kings(11-7-3, 25pts, 3rd in Pacific) vs San Jose Sharks(6-12-5, 17pts, Last in Pacific)
SAP Center | San Jose, CA
TIME: 7:00pm PT | TV: Fan Duel Sports Net West RADIO: ESPN LA App



Regular Season Stats

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*Lines subject to change*
**The website I use to get these doesn't have all of our players yet**

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Scratches: Kyle Burroughs, Andreas Englund, Akil Thomas
Injuries: Arthur Kaliyev, Drew Doughty, Alex Turcotte, Darcy Kuemper, Caleb Jones



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Raccoon Jesus

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Celebrini is gaining steam, I bet he pots 2 tonight

3-2 sharks, kings give me no confidence that they'll handle business after a win.
 

chris kontos

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I like the idea of building from the goal out- sharks acquiring askarov tells they have the right idea.
We should take it to these guys tonite.
Also lewis looks like he's 60yrs old in that pic.
Is he 60?
 
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johnjm22

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The Sharks will be very good in a couple of years, right now they are probably at the 07-08 Kings stage from our successful rebuild. But if I were a Sharks fan I would be pretty happy with how they are looking for the future.
I bet the Sharks will come out the rebuild too early, and become a decent-to-mediocre team. Nothing more.
 

Sol

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I mean Byfield did do the impossible and actually shot the puck into the net last game. Not a tap in, not a redirect, not accidentally off the nuts. An actual shot. Maybe he scores another goal in the next ten games. And if we want to be really crazy here maybe he scores another goal today
 

Herby

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I bet the Sharks will come out the rebuild too early, and become a decent-to-mediocre team. Nothing more.

We will see, they have one phenomenal center though (and another one who will likely be very good). That should be the pre-req to even consider ending your rebuild, a very big mistake the Kings made.
 

Herby

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I like the idea of building from the goal out- sharks acquiring askarov tells they have the right idea.
We should take it to these guys tonite.
Also lewis looks like he's 60yrs old in that pic.
Is he 60?

Lombardi always talked about building from the net out, but that was an easy thing to say when you inherited a future Hall of Fame center in Kopitar. I assume the Kings go about things way differently (or have different results) if the 10 other teams didn't gift the Kings what they did at the 05 draft.

I think in modern-times the #1 C building clock is the most important piece of a team, and by a significant margin. Goaltending just isn't as important as it was during the dead-puck era.
 
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Even more amazing than Kopi falling to #11 in his draft was Detroit drafting 2 franchise C's way late with Zetterberg and Datsyuk. I feel like that doesn't happen anymore...
 

chris kontos

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Lombardi always talked about building from the net out, but that was an easy thing to say when you inherited a future Hall of Fame center in Kopitar. I assume the Kings go about things way differently (or have different results) if the 10 other teams didn't gift the Kings what they did at the 05 draft.

I think in modern-times the #1 C building clock is the most important piece of a team, and by a significant margin. Goaltending just isn't as important as it was during the dead-puck era.
Its been my belief for a really long time that defense wins championships so keeping the puck out of your net should be the priority in a rebuild IF your goal is a championship. I actually thought blake was trying to do that with that left handed goaltender.
Now its anybodys guess what blakes goal is and path being taken is so schizophrenic as defy belief.
Despite bettman's wish to turn the nhl into a different non contact sport, it still holds that the champions ALL have had stout goaltending and frquently started out with it in thier evolution to the cup
 

Raccoon Jesus

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Its been my belief for a really long time that defense wins championships so keeping the puck out of your net should be the priority in a rebuild IF your goal is a championship. I actually thought blake was trying to do that with that left handed goaltender.
Now its anybodys guess what blakes goal is and path being taken is so schizophrenic as defy belief.
Despite bettman's wish to turn the nhl into a different non contact sport, it still holds that the champions ALL have had stout goaltending and frquently started out with it in thier evolution to the cup

Still does, imo. Look at Barkov > McDavid. That's not too far different from Kopitar continually dog walking Thornton and Getzlaf, Bergeron working on Crosby and Girioux, Toews across several championships. "#1 C" doesn't have to be the art ross winner, but he'd better be damn sure able to win his matchups like Kopitar did--'just' be a 70 point scorer, but turn your 110 point scorer into a puddle head to head.

But I also agree with you more than most that you can do it with elite defense alone--provided you can get timely scoring and saves, ie not suck at a lottery level on special teams like the Kings, and not simply rotate goalies like a merry go round in a prayer-a-thon for a goalie savior.
 
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chris kontos

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Still does, imo. Look at Barkov > McDavid. That's not too far different from Kopitar continually dog walking Thornton and Getzlaf, Bergeron working on Crosby and Girioux, Toews across several championships. "#1 C" doesn't have to be the art ross winner, but he'd better be damn sure able to win his matchups like Kopitar did--'just' be a 70 point scorer, but turn your 110 point scorer into a puddle head to head.

But I also agree with you more than most that you can do it with elite defense alone--provided you can get timely scoring and saves, ie not suck at a lottery level on special teams like the Kings, and not simply rotate goalies like a merry go round in a prayer-a-thon for a goalie savior.
I think offense generally takes care of itself over the long term. Right now there is great emphasis on offense- not only in the nhl but every other pro sport. Goals sell tickets and jerseys. But even though chicks dig goal scoring, any good team will ALWAYS have a successful goaltender. Its a cycle and right now goaltending is out of favor but show me a good goaltender and i'll show you a good coach and more often than not, a winning team.
 

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