21/22 Roster Speculation Thread Part VIII

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Adding two rookies to a forward group that is 25th in Goals For/Game is asking for another meh year.

Sure, it'll be a full season of Tuch, a full season of Krebs, hopefully development and steps forward from other guys as well. However, in the real world, I don't know if that is enough to get us to middle of the pack scoring wise. I guess it depends on what your goal is for next season. If its another punt year, its probably fine to accept incremental progress. However, if you want to seriously be in the hunt for the playoff spot, large, aggressive changes need to be made.

Huge difference in a “punt year” and developing the young players the Sabres have.
 
Trade C Casey Mittlestadt, 2022 1st (Vegas), 2023 1st, 2023 3rd for RFA LW/RW Matthew Tkachuk

Nobody wants to trade for Casey Mittlestadt. He is past his injury but can't be put in the lineup because he's out of shape.

Heard that before?

Good news is he's going through Matt Ellis boot camp. Like last year on the taxi squad which allowed Casey to function as a competent NHL'er for a few dozen games.

(If we could trade CM, I like your trade idea)
 
Okay without even looking at cap I am hoping we go all out on short term veteran contracts to dmen, goalies, and depth forwards. Our top 9 is pretty much set for forwards, just need some insulation for Power, Dahlin, and Samuelsson. I like Bryson, Pysyk, and Joker but I’m all for adding 2 solid RHD’s. Get the best goalie in free agency, then some gritty scorers for the 4th line. Depth is the key to winning games next year. Maybe over spend on a good bottom 6 center too.
 
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My #1 goal now with this roster the rest of the season: See if Mitt's can stay healthy, and has a role and future on this team going forward.

Other:
Get Power signed and some games
Trade any misfits/rfa's you can

Offseason: Solidify goaltending and RD, stock up system with 3 1sts and 2nd
 
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Looking forward to the logjam at center next season - Tage, Mitts, Cozens, Krebs - all vying for top-6 and PP minutes. This is the type of "problem" coaches and GMs love to have. And if we manage to luck into Savoie ... yikes!

As things stand now, Tage fully deserves the 1C spot, and Krebs is quickly staking his claim for 2C. Thinking Cozens moves to RW, and Casey is 3C.
 
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I wouldn't mind a stab at Zadina. Something around Bryson (I believe they need LHD) and a pick is something I could stomach. We've seen guys blossom late on our own team (tage,mitts, jankowski). If the cost is relatively low,that's how you get value contracts. If it fails, it's not like it's a player we are relying on and it cripples us.
 
I think we are still in the figure out what we got stage. I don’t see any deals in season involving our prospects. Maybe we trade some of our vets for some players in need of scenery changes but not our prospects at this point.
 
Is it even a "Top pairing" vet that they need or someone who can be good opposite one or the other of those two? Troy Stecher is someone Power worked well with and I don't think anyone is going to say he's going to be hard to land to provide Power with a stable partner.

I do think that they need to try and acquire RHD partners that are good for Dahlin and Power this off season. Stecher could be that guy for Power. Although, that is putting a lot of stock into a small sample size tournament.

The other question is what do they have with Jokiharju and Fitzgerald. Can one of them be a good top 6 RHD partner for Dahlin or Power? It would make things easier if we were confident that they could be.

Although, they might try and see if they can add one new RHD like Stecher this off season and reassess things in summer 2023. A RHD core of Stecher, Pysyk, Jokiharju, and Fitzgerald could be what they have heading into the 22-23 season.
 
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I almost do not see free places to add to the attack.

We need a good goalie, maybe can overpay to UFA for a short term or trade 2nd/3rd for goalie, there will be many options.

RD - It makes sense to add at least one RD, there are also many options.
 
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I almost do not see free places to add to the attack.

We need a good goalie, maybe can overpay to UFA for a short term or trade 2nd/3rd for goalie, there will be many options.

RD - It makes sense to add at least one RD, there are also many options.
I think the time for those changes are in the off season unless they can find a partner that wants to include in trade for one of our vets
 
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why can’t we just develop our very young forward core? Large aggressive changes? No thanks

Huge difference in a “punt year” and developing the young players the Sabres have.

That's what Rochester is for. If you want to give the AHL eligible forwards more development time.....that is where they should go.

The idea that we cannot improve our roster because 'we need to develop our players' is non sensical. Improve the roster utilizing every asset and resource available.
 
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That's what Rochester is for. If you want to give the AHL eligible forwards more development time.....that is where they should go.

The idea that we cannot improve our roster because 'we need to develop our players' is non sensical. Improve the roster utilizing every asset and resource available.

Can you clarify what you mean?

They did put players in Rochester who they wanted to take steps - many have taken bigger strides than even the optimistic fans would likely have - and didn't put hard to move guys in front of them. Krebs and Samuelsson appear to have graduated. It's probable that Quinn has as well. It's possible Luukkonen will be joining them in Buffalo sooner rather than later.

They did bring in some people who have very much helped the roster in Tuch, Anderson and Pysyk who were external. Are you advocating that they need to deal picks or prospects to try to get better immediately?
 
That's what Rochester is for. If you want to give the AHL eligible forwards more development time.....that is where they should go.

The idea that we cannot improve our roster because 'we need to develop our players' is non sensical. Improve the roster utilizing every asset and resource available.

rochester is not the place for young NHL quality players that need to develop. Power, Quinn, Peterka, Cozens, Samuelsson, krebs, Mitts, and Thompson all need to be the NHL for most of next season. They need spots. Playing them and developing them is not nonsensical. It’s actually how most teams build their roster.

Just like your approach of being aggressive and using all resources and assets to improve the roster isnt nonsensical. Heck, GM Murray would agree with you!
 
Can you clarify what you mean?

They did put players in Rochester who they wanted to take steps - many have taken bigger strides than even the optimistic fans would likely have - and didn't put hard to move guys in front of them. Krebs and Samuelsson appear to have graduated. It's probable that Quinn has as well. It's possible Luukkonen will be joining them in Buffalo sooner rather than later.

They did bring in some people who have very much helped the roster in Tuch, Anderson and Pysyk who were external. Are you advocating that they need to deal picks or prospects to try to get better immediately?
He either can’t accept the concept of a development year or doesn’t understand what that means. So he keeps ranting about how they should have spent a bunch of money and traded picks to be more “competitive”.
 


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That's what Rochester is for. If you want to give the AHL eligible forwards more development time.....that is where they should go.

The idea that we cannot improve our roster because 'we need to develop our players' is non sensical. Improve the roster utilizing every asset and resource available.
So the question is “are you improving the roster?” That’s the question and I am not sure that you will. Maybe just maybe you already have what you need and trading for known nhl depth players sets you back instead of forward (see montour, sheary, hunwick, svodka, berglund, vesey, Miller, etc) Maybe you get labeled a patsy. So who is todays flash in the pan that is going to win us 2 more games this year?
 
He either can’t accept the concept of a development year or doesn’t understand what that means. So he keeps ranting about how they should have spent a bunch of money and traded picks to be more “competitive”.

I guess. The way the team has started to come together, the strides the kids have taken, and that they still have both their prospect depth and that collection of draft picks are all positives. Further roster crafting can take place this summer prior to the draft.
 
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