GDT: 2025 NHL Trade Deadline thread

[Kalopsia]

Tanev to WPG for a 2nd

Way to go Chris, crushing it in your big boy job!

Yeah, what idiot would give up a 2nd for a speedy forechecking LW with 20 points when they could've given up a 2nd for a speedy forechecking LW with 17 points (who's 6 years older) instead?

Hate the Beauvillier move if you want, but holding up the Tanev deal as clearly better is an odd choice. The only things Tanev does that Beauvillier doesn't are PK and fight, and neither are needs for the Caps.

 

[marcel snapshot]

Shea Weber on the move again - so there's that

 

[Chokingdogs]

Dammit, amateur gm does amateur job. Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to speak to some cumulonimbi.

 

[um]

Florida’s top 9:

Verhaege-Barkov-Reinhart
Marchand-Bennett-Tkachuk
Luostarinen-Lundell-ERoD

Unreal

We better hope they’re knocked out before they get going.

 

[qc14]

Quick thoughts, pending any late breaking stuff

Winners:
Dallas
Florida
Tampa
Pittsburgh
NYI
San Jose

Losers:
Carolina
Winnipeg
Toronto
Nashville
Vancouver
NJD

Somewhere in the Middle:
Edmonton
Washington
Colorado

 

[qc14]

If the Caps get knocked out of the playoffs by either Tampa or Florida I'd call that pretty f***ing successful lol

 

[ArmadilloThumb]

Games are played on the ice not on paper or in forums.

This sends a message to the room that the organization believes in them and it sends a message to Lappy, Miroshnichenko, and Leonard that the path is clear for any of them to rise up and achieve beyond expectations.

LFG Caps.

 

[OV Rocks]

Because we don't owe him that. Look at who moved that might've realistically been moved to us instead. Which of those guys should we have outbid for? Bjorkstrand, maybe? What're the Panthers paying for Marchand if that turns out to be real?

We owe Ovi a lot, but I wouldn't gut our promising farm and current overall situation tilting at windmills unnecessarily. I want to win a Cup, and I hope we do it with Ovi, but I don't want the team to suck after his departure when it doesn't have to.

Good job not quoting my first part of that, whatever fits your own narrative there CNN, sorry I mean @Jags

Yes, we do 1000% owe him that, WTF world are you living in that we don't owe Ovi another run at the cup?!?!?!

Ted Leonsis should be naming all of his children after Ovi, the guy is bigger than the franchise. We owe him everything. I could be convinced that pretty much anyone on this roster and all of our prospects could be traded for the right package. Leonard for Rantanen straight up, I'd consider it. Leonard and Cristall for Tage Thompson and Alex Tuch, do it.

I would take Ovi winning a second cup for another 15-20 years of no playoffs. ​

 

[Kazer]

Quick thoughts, pending any late breaking stuff

Winners:
Dallas
Florida
Tampa
Pittsburgh
NYI
San Jose

Losers:
Carolina
Winnipeg
Toronto
Nashville
Vancouver
NJD

Somewhere in the Middle:
Edmonton
Washington
Colorado

Carolina belongs in the middle. I cannot believe that they traded for Mikko without an extension in place, but getting Stankoven, 2 1sts, and 2 3rds back for Rantanen was enough to push them at least to the middle for me. They made a mistake and fixed it in a big way.

Pittsburgh probably belongs up top, but I'm tempted to push them to the middle because in this market they could've easily got a 1st + a good prospect for Rakell. Not sure why they didn't make that move especially since Rakell looked toast last year.

 

[IafrateOvie34]

We better hope they’re knocked out before they get going.

Verhaege is their gold for the playoffs.

 

[ArmadilloThumb]

Can't remember who tweeted it but apparently Beauvillier played with PLD and Strome on some iterations of Team Canada so they both may have had input on the move and potential fit

 

[Langway]

The best development for the Caps today is Carolina dishing Rantanen and apparently (?) not adding anything subsequently. The first two rounds for Washington probably won't get any easier than how this happens to shake out, assuming they don't falter down the stretch. OTT/CBJ/NYR -> CAR/NJD winner. Anything less than the ECF should be considered a big disappointment, esp. after the developments with Rantanen & Hughes. First things first they need to take charge in the first round, be ready for business and show the crispness/stamina necessary.

Colorado is a winner for me. Edmonton a loser mostly because I don't think Walman is enough. Washington is a loser for me mostly because they didn't respond to what TBL/FLA did. They made a marginal upgrade over Vrana or perhaps Mangiapane. Leonard will in theory be their big boost but who knows to what extent. You just know whenever they face more of a veteran team they'll try agitating him and get him off his game. Will he have the maturity to pick his spots and stay focused? A lot seems riding on it.

 

[RedRocking]

What f***ing bummer. Shame they wouldn’t go all-in for Ovi, in what might be his last chance as a top seed.

I guess our FO just has a different organizational philosophy than COL, DAL, FLA, TB. Even CAR took a big swing.

Oh well. Guess we have to hope that a 20 yr old college kid can make a difference.

 

[ClevelandCapsfan]

Zetterlund a nice get for Ottawa

 

[Empty Goal Net]

Silver lining, regardless of how the upcoming playoff run ends: All the pending UFAs who were not resigned but moved by their old teams will become signing targets this summer. If Cap mgmt can do a limited repeat of the last off-season, they'll be in even better shape for the next one.

 

[qc14]

Carolina belongs in the middle. I cannot believe that they traded for Mikko without an extension in place, but getting Stankoven, 2 1sts, and 2 3rds back for Rantanen was enough to push them at least to the middle for me. They made a mistake and fixed it in a big way.

Pittsburgh probably belongs up top, but I'm tempted to push them to the middle because in this market they could've easily got a 1st + a good prospect for Rakell. Not sure why they didn't make that move especially since Rakell looked toast last year.

Carolina is a loser to me because the entire Rantanen saga just reinforces that IMO they are unserious about actually winning a cup. They've been a top 5 regular season team for 5 years now. Enough of the "sustainable winner" and "cap flexibility" and "deep prospect pool" crap. They are further away from winning a cup this year after all of their moves than they were beforehand. I'd have liked it more if they just rode with Rantanen as a rental

I'm surprised Pittsburgh didn't move Rantanen but assuming their asking price was high I think there are only so many of those guys that can move every year and almost all the other ones did.

 

[ClevelandCapsfan]

Still waiting to hear the Bruins return for Marchand.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

To recap our deadline.

Waived Vrana and did not attempt to trade him.
Sonny has health setback
Vrana claimed leaving us a forward short
Trade a 2nd rounder for Anthony Beauvillier at a very steep price.

Thankfully this is the end of deadline 2025

 

[hb13xchamps]

Toronto also giving up a top prospect.

 

[qc14]

The best development for the Caps today is Carolina dishing Rantanen and apparently (?) not adding anything subsequently. The first two rounds for Washington probably won't get any easier than how this happens to shake out, assuming they don't falter down the stretch. OTT/CBJ/NYR -> CAR/NJD winner. Anything less than the ECF should be considered a big disappointment, esp. after the developments with Rantanen & Hughes. First things first they need to take charge in the first round, be ready for business and show the crispness/stamina necessary.

Right now I think that losing R1 is a massive disappointment, losing R2 would be disappointing but not a disaster, losing R3 perfectly fine as long as they don't get blown out.

Colorado is a winner for me. Edmonton a loser mostly because I don't think Walman is enough. Washington is a loser for me mostly because they didn't respond to what TBL/FLA did. They made a marginal upgrade over Vrana or perhaps Mangiapane. Leonard will in theory be their big boost but who knows to what extent. You just know whenever they face more of a veteran team they'll try agitating him and get him off his game. Will he have the maturity to pick his spots and stay focused? A lot seems riding on it.

Colorado is definitely deeper than they were before which was their massive weakness but for how much they gave I think what they ended up getting is less than you'd first think. I also am really not a Coyle guy at all.

I think Beauvillier is more than a marginal upgrade on Vrana and Frank. Too much to give up -- yes. Other teams made much bigger steps -- absolutely. But the metro got worse around them and I think for our unique position I understand sitting out of the big game hunting

 

[Kalopsia]

Can't remember who tweeted it but apparently Beauvillier played with PLD and Strome on some iterations of Team Canada so they both may have had input on the move and potential fit

Yeah, I've gotta think familiarity with the player was a big factor. He's also played with Eller earlier this year of course, and he's been playing in the Metro for 8 of his 9 years in the NHL. They should already have a very good idea of how he's going to fit with the Caps on and off the ice.

 

[Jags]

Have you forgotten what he looked like in the playoffs last year? Do you close your eyes when he's on the ice in 2/3 zones this season? The playoffs are only going to magnify that stuff

Okay, so you're saying that Ovi can't help us in the playoffs and, thus, we have to construct a team capable of carrying him to another Cup?

There was nothing we could do at the deadline to achieve that.

Ovi is still capable of contributing to a winner. I believe that. Your mileage may vary.

Good job not quoting my first part of that, whatever fits your own narrative there CNN, sorry I mean @Jags

You posted that you were on the fence, that "it's either this or that" and I replied with a rebuttal to "that" so you'd land on "this." I wasn't selectively quoting. You said you were on the fence, I preferred having you on the first side, so I gave reasons that the other side is a bad place to be.

My apologies if you took it another way.

Yes, we do 1000% owe him that, WTF world are you living in that we don't owe Ovi another run at the cup?!?!?!

What world are you living in that we aren't about to take another run at the Cup?

I mean seriously... We're #1 in the East by a wide margin. Our 3rd line sputters on offense but otherwise moves the needle the way they should. I would specifically ask which trade that happened that you think we should have been in on, but then you said this...

[]I would take Ovi winning a second cup for another 15-20 years of no playoffs. [/]

I would not. If that's how you really feel, then we are clearly not having the same conversation. I want to be back in the playoffs ASAP, if not immediately, when Ovi retires because I am I fan of the team first and foremost.

We have a legit shot this year, and there's no reason we shouldn't have one next year. We owe Ovi a shot. We do not owe him the destruction of the team's immediate future to make that shot marginally better.

This organization gave him MANY shots over the years with good teams capable of winning. It sucks hard that we only pulled it off once, but that's what it means to be in a league this competitive. I LOVE the parity in the NHL, so I accept that winning a Cup is crazy hard. Going "all-in" at the TDL to the extent you're proposing here is almost always a bad thing to do.

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

The ignore button is a great feature

These people act like we aren’t first place in the East by a mile

That is a great accomplishment but why not look to improve as Florida and Colorado did? Ovi has one year left, the team is good, push your chips in. Instead, they are riding the fence here which for me is no bueno. That approach usually has you losing at the end of the day. I don’t see how they beat that FL line up in a playoff series.

Ovi and Carlson don’t have as much tread left as they once did. Ovi can’t be your main go to option in the loffs when sh*t gets real and nor should he be forced to at 39. They should’ve gotten him some help IMHO. Top six Taylor Raddysh in the playoffs will be something when an injury comes up.

 

[twabby]

B- deadline.

Didn't make a terrible move, but didn't make a good move either.

 

[SecretaryofDefense5]

Games are played on the ice not on paper or in forums.

This sends a message to the room that the organization believes in them and it sends a message to Lappy, Miroshnichenko, and Leonard that the path is clear for any of them to rise up and achieve beyond expectations.

LFG Caps.

This isn’t a Disney movie my dude.