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2025 NHL Entry Draft

2025 draft pick (not Hagens)

  • Roger McQueen (C)

  • Michael Misa (C/W)

  • Matthew Schaffer (LHD)

  • Ivan Ryabkin (C)

  • Porter Martone (RW)

  • Anton Frondell (C)

  • other (who?)

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Good game for a few of the Top 10 prospects between Erie and Brampton.

Porter Martone with 1 goal and 2 assists

Malcolm Spence with 2 goals and +2

Matthew Schaefer with 2 assists and a +3


Misa had 2 assists in his game as well.

Stats for the top 4 prospects:


Porter Martone- 26 GP, 21 G, 33 A, 54 PTS

Matthew Schaefer- 17 GP, 7 G, 15 A, 22 PTS

James Hagens- 15 GP, 4 G 15 A, 19 PTS

Michael Misa- 27 GP, 27 G, 27 A, 54 PTS
 
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Too bad we will need to win the lottery to get Schaefer. The only prospect with superstar potential in this draft.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
LD though. Where does he play? Do we move Ghule or Hutson?
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For me it’s not a problem: Schaeffer, Hutson, Guhle can play each on a pair. If you feel that’s a waste then trade Guhle for a top 4 RHD or a top 2C and solve your problems like that.
 
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For me it’s not a problem: Schaeffer, Hutson, Guhle can play each on a pair. If you feel that’s a waste then trade Guhle for a top 4 RHD or a top 2C and solve your problems like that.
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What if we just traded the Schaffer pick for an RD instead?

If you draft him you have to develop him for years... We've already got two young blueliners just cracking the NHL.
 
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LD though. Where does he play? Do we move Ghule or Hutson?
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You move Guhle to the right side. It's not that much of a big deal in my opinion. You're looking at a top 4 of Schaefer, Reinbacher, Guhle, Hutson. I'd sleep at night easily if Guhle is my #2/#3 Dman.​
Lafleurs Guy said:
What if we just traded the Schaffer pick for an RD instead?

If you draft him you have to develop him for years... We've already got two young blueliners just cracking the NHL.
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You have a D-man in the same mold as Heiskanen with Schaefer. I'm taking Heiskanen on my team all day everyday.​
 
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Leto said:

You have a D-man in the same mold as Heiskanen with Schaefer. I'm taking Heiskanen on my team all day everyday.​
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Makes sense.

Understand this though, you may be pushing everything backwards. I don't think having Ghule on his wrong side for the rest of his career makes sense. So you're probably moving him - unless you want to move Hutson, which would be insane - and you're now waiting on another young blueliner to develop. That could set us back a long time. LD is the one place where we are super overstocked with prospects right now.
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
What if we just traded the Schaffer pick for an RD instead?

If you draft him you have to develop him for years... We've already got two young blueliners just cracking the NHL.
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I don't trade him except for a 1C or 1RHD that is still young. If we can get Dobson for the pick at the draft, i would probably be ok with that.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
Makes sense.

Understand this though, you may be pushing everything backwards. I don't think having Ghule on his wrong side for the rest of his career makes sense. So you're probably moving him - unless you want to move Hutson, which would be insane - and you're now waiting on another young blueliner to develop. That could set us back a long time. LD is the one place where we are super overstocked with prospects right now.
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I think you'd be better to keep Guhle than pay extra to get an equivalent player on the right side. You might lose effectiveness with Guhle playing on his offside, but you would gain so much more in exchange.

With Schaefer, I think you're looking at best 1-2 years before he is ready to make the jump to the NHL. He has to add weight to his frame, with another 10 lb you're looking at the same frame and weight as Heiskanen, Guhle,etc.

It could set us back, but I'd be content with a bulletproof D-core for the next decade or so. I am of the opinion we should go BPA, and Schaefer is that guy IMO. I am still waiting to see if Hagens can take another step in the second half of the season. I feel we haven't seen the same guy that was dominant at the U18.​
 
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Leto said:

I think you'd be better to keep Guhle than pay extra to get an equivalent player on the right side. You might lose effectiveness with Guhle playing on his offside, but you would gain so much more in exchange.

With Schaefer, I think you're looking at best 1-2 years before he is ready to make the jump to the NHL. He has to add weight to his frame, with another 10 lb you're looking at the same frame and weight as Heiskanen, Guhle,etc.

It could set us back, but I'd be content with a bulletproof D-core for the next decade or so. I am of the opinion we should go BPA, and Schaefer is that guy IMO. I am still waiting to see if Hagens can take another step in the second half of the season. I feel we haven't seen the same guy that was dominant at the U18.​
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I would also be ok with Guhle playing on the right side but on a 2nd pair, which imply we would hope for Reinbacher to take the top pair role.

But a top 4 of :

Schaefer-Reinbacher
Hutson-Guhle

Would be insane imo. Extreme mobility and offensive threat from the backend.
 
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Didn't realize he was that good. I was surprised when they touted yesterdays game as a match between the top 2 2025 eligibles - Martone - Schaefer
 
Leto said:

I think you'd be better to keep Guhle than pay extra to get an equivalent player on the right side. You might lose effectiveness with Guhle playing on his offside, but you would gain so much more in exchange.

With Schaefer, I think you're looking at best 1-2 years before he is ready to make the jump to the NHL. He has to add weight to his frame, with another 10 lb you're looking at the same frame and weight as Heiskanen, Guhle,etc.

It could set us back, but I'd be content with a bulletproof D-core for the next decade or so. I am of the opinion we should go BPA, and Schaefer is that guy IMO. I am still waiting to see if Hagens can take another step in the second half of the season. I feel we haven't seen the same guy that was dominant at the U18.​
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What worries me about this is that you're pushing the rebuild back even further with this move. Maybe in the long run it doesn't matter but you're taking another two years off Suzuki and CC. This is where you run the risk of being in perpetual rebuild mode... not where we want to be.
 
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Benstheman said:
I would also be ok with Guhle playing on the right side but on a 2nd pair, which imply we would hope for Reinbacher to take the top pair role.

But a top 4 of :

Schaefer-Reinbacher
Hutson-Guhle

Would be insane imo. Extreme mobility and offensive threat from the backend.
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I am still hopeful for Reinbacher. I hope he can come back before the end of the season and play some games with the Rocket. I still think there is a 2D stud in there.

I am cool with Guhle in the right side because of his skating. If there is a guy who can do it, it's him.

Lafleurs Guy said:
What worries me about this is that you're pushing the rebuild back even further with this move. Maybe in the long run it doesn't matter but you're taking another two years off Suzuki and CC. This is where you run the risk of being in perpetual rebuild mode... not where we want to be.
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Perhaps. I won't lie, I think we're heading in troubled waters with the year 4/5 of the rebuild. That's where mistakes are made. I am uncomfortable with the idea that we absolutely need to capitalize on Suzuki's prime. I am also uncomfortable with the prospect to skip the BPA. Then again, we'll need the lottery pick to be in that situation. I would be happy to leave the draft with one of Martone/Misa/Hagens.
 
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So the top 4 should be good if Hagens does better in the second half - Martone, Misa, Schaefer, Hagens.
 
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FrankMTL said:
As of right, I see a big drop off in terms of talent and/or question marks regarding health after those 4.

In an ideal situation, we need absolutely a pick in the Top 4
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I agree with what you've said.

But given how our recent games have gone, and the trend that has begun to emerge, you can basically forget that top-4 pick barring some unexpected changes and/or lottery luck.

We're probably gonna be looking at adding a guy like Desnoyers or Frondell come the draft, which is perfectly fine by me.

We'll just have to hope that Calgary can hang on to dear life and get us a pick between 11-16. There are lots of good players in that range this year despite what most say.

After that, with some more luck maybe a guy like Schmidt falls to the second-round because of size despite first-round talent and we manage to nab him with one of our seconds. I doubt it though, he'd be #11 for me right now and rising.

Else, maybe a Jack Nesbitt, Jake O'Brien type (big players with good tools, workable skating, and possible top-6 upside) make it to one of our second-round picks or we trade both for another low first and we get a guy like that.

Basically, we won't get the quick and easy fix most likely. And if our scouting staff is to give us some more talent on the NHL roster eventually they're gonna need to work, do their due diligences, and hope to benefit from other teams' oversights ala Lane Hutson.
 
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The top 4 are pretty much sure bet high end players/stars, but then it gets pretty dicey. You're choosing between guys who are risky but have high upside (McQueen, Frondell, Ryabkin) or guys who are pretty safe bets with more limited (2nd line/pairing) upside (Spence, Desnoyers, Hensler).
 
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