2025 NHL Draft Thread

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Yeah, narratives can be a bit weird. Dickinson, Number 11 pick is "perfect number 2" (if they get Schaefer) but for Hawks, Nazar, Number 13 pick, is part of "Hawks are bare after Bedard"
There was a whole bunch of whining that the Sharks rebuild is going way better than the Hawks' earlier in the year. Funny we don't hear about that as much recently. They have a whopping 8 more goals in 3 more games played so its not like they're losing a bunch of barn burners.
 
The San Jose hype was after they acquired Askarov on the heels of Soderblom being a shit show last season. Soda blossoming and looking like an actual NHL goalie with Askarov struggling has changed the narrative. Askarov very well could pull a Soda and go from suck to living up to his hype in which case that is a big piece going forward. While there are pieces to like with the Sharks rebuild, I would not trade with them at this point.

The Hawks have their D prospect pool far advanced in both quantity and proximity to the NHL. San Jose even if they land Shaefer this draft will not have a single D prospect of significance the other side of teenager and even then it would still be having to "hit" on all of Dickinson, Shaefer, and Wallenius just to get to 3 home grown D men. With how long D take to develop, I would much rather have Vlassic pencilled in as a proven NHL D and Allen, Kaiser, EDM, Crevier, Lev, and Korch all cutting their teeth playing against men and Rinzel likely joining them in a couple of months. D development is a longer road and the Sharks best options are teenagers playing other teenagers.
 
I have given up on finishing last:
Preds 49 games 43pts, Buff, penguins, Ott, hawks, buff
Buff 50 games 43 pts, preds devils, Columbus, preds
CHI 51 games 37 pts, FL, ED, preds, blues
SJ 54 games 36pts, Habs Canucks and stars

preds and Buff have a few east games before the break, hopefully a OT game when they paly twice
 
I have given up on finishing last:
Preds 49 games 43pts, Buff, penguins, Ott, hawks, buff
Buff 50 games 43 pts, preds devils, Columbus, preds
CHI 51 games 37 pts, FL, ED, preds, blues
SJ 54 games 36pts, Habs Canucks and stars

preds and Buff have a few east games before the break, hopefully a OT game when they paly twice
KD needs to aggressively ship out any short term deals that can increase their equity at a top 3 pick, at this rate it seems like people would be happy with either schaefer or misa/hagens
 
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The Hawks have their D prospect pool far advanced in both quantity and proximity to the NHL. San Jose even if they land Shaefer this draft will not have a single D prospect of significance the other side of teenager and even then it would still be having to "hit" on all of Dickinson, Shaefer, and Wallenius just to get to 3 home grown D men. With how long D take to develop, I would much rather have Vlassic pencilled in as a proven NHL D and Allen, Kaiser, EDM, Crevier, Lev, and Korch all cutting their teeth playing against men and Rinzel likely joining them in a couple of months. D development is a longer road and the Sharks best options are teenagers playing other teenagers.
Maybe they'll squeeze a bit out of Henry Thrun, Shakir Mukhamadulin, Jack Thompson, Jake Furlong, Luca Cagnoni, but it's not the most promising group of NHL/AHL Defensemen.

Dickinson, Wallenius, Pohlkamp, Havelid all outside of that, it's not a *completely* barren group but it's certainly far from a strength. Schaefer is much closer to a *must* have for their prospect pool to take a more well rounded form.
 
Misa Now Up to 191 lbs at 6'1

DraftPros just released a scouting report on him on YouTube. The best way to describe it in one word? Flawless. He has no noticeable weaknesses and checks every box in his game. He'll likely be the OHL Player of the Month shortly.

Team Canada clearly made a mistake by not including him on their World Juniors squad, where several players struggled to score. Misa has responded by putting up ridiculous numbers in goals and assists. On top of that, he's a great two-way player and winning about 55% of his faceoffs.

DraftPros also predicts he'll head straight to the NHL next season.

I currently rate him above Hagens as the best forward prospect (and center) in this draft. Hagens isn't flawless—he's a gifted player, but there are concerns. Another 5'10.5" center isn’t what the Hawks need. Hagens has often been in privileged situations, being the go-to guy during his 23/24 season, which feels like playing on an All-Star youth team.

This season, he's the 1C between Leonard and Perreault at BC—a highly favorable position. Despite that, he's skewing more toward assists than goals, and I expected more goals by now. He hasn't impressed me as much as Celebrini did as a 1C for BU last year in his freshman season.

I’m not convinced Hagens will be a one-and-done next season like Misa. I see Misa as an instant-impact player—a true 1C playing as a 2C and driving that line.

So, if the Hawks have the #1 overall pick, Misa would be an excellent choice. That said, Schaefer is a potential 1D solution for building a Cup-winning core. However, he may need another year in juniors because he's still very young and missed the back half of this season due to injury at the World Juniors.

It's a very tough decision: a perfect forward fit versus a perfect defensive fit that needs more development time. The NHL GM manual always says to take a franchise 1D over a forward, even if the forward is a top-line or 2C star.

Either way, I hope the Hawks get one of these two top targets.

I'm less sold on Hagens and also have some concerns about Martone.

If the Hawks draft third or fourth and both Schaefer and Misa are off the board, and the choice is Martone, Hagens, or Caleb Desnoyers, I'd take Desnoyers. He's the next-best 2C solution for the Hawks.

Desnoyers plays even better defensively than Misa. He may even be better in the faceoff circle, winning nearly 64% of his draws, although he's taken fewer total faceoffs than Misa. DraftPros also calls him the smartest two-way forward in the draft, with solid offensive skill. He's great at keeping his feet moving while also having the intelligence to slow the game down and create passing lanes.

Misa may have better straight-line speed and a stronger shot, but Desnoyers is an elite puck handler with the ability to maneuver around checkers. There's a lot to like about his game, and I believe he still has an even higher ceiling, though he probably needs one more season in juniors.

Meanwhile, I think Misa is NHL-ready next season.

My top three fits for the Hawks are:
  1. Schaefer
  2. Misa
  3. Desnoyers (who's now well over 6'2" and just needs to fill out his frame; he'll dominate even more once he adds weight and muscle).

If all three are off the board, and the Hawks draft at #4, I'd prefer Martone over Hagens as a better fit for team needs and size. If a team drafting at #5 wants to move up for Hagens, trading down would be smart.

Another 5'10.5" center just isn't what the Hawks need. That doesn't mean Hagens can't be a fit for another team, but he's not right for Chicago.

I just hope management understands this and avoids going with another undersized forward or center, regardless of where Hagens sits on their draft board. The current consensus may be overrating him without considering team fit.
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Ya'll should check out the Mckegg video that dropped on youtube. He states his case on why he has Misa and Frondell neck and neck behind Schaefer. He also has a highlight reel of Alexander Zharovsky. That guy is straight up filthy and leads the MHL in draft eligible scoring
 
with all the picks we have. I feel like taking the top russian on our board after 3rd round picks on would make sense. we can stash them so much longer then NCAA players or Minor. we have 2 4ths this year if they are in juniors they need to be signed in 2 years corrected. we are going to run out of contracts and roster spots in the AHL. in central scouting from 30-60 they have 9 Russians that is 4th thru 6/7th Typically. this year we have 4,4,6,7 next year 4,4,5,6
 

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