2025 NHL Draft: Lose a ton for Porter Martone

[Stewie Griffin]

Not really sure where to talk about other teams rebuilds, but after noticing Cayden Lindstrom went under another back procedure, the CBJ rebuild really doesn't look as good as I thought it would a few years ago. Lindstrom hasn't played in forever, Jiricek can't make/isn't being played in their lineup for whatever reasons, and Kent Johnson has missed alot of time the last two seasons.

Goes to show how we need alot more development/luck than just drafting all these guys who we like at the moment.

 

[coooldude]

Not really sure where to talk about other teams rebuilds, but after noticing Cayden Lindstrom went under another back procedure, the CBJ rebuild really doesn't look as good as I thought it would a few years ago. Lindstrom hasn't played in forever, Jiricek can't make/isn't being played in their lineup for whatever reasons, and Kent Johnson has missed alot of time the last two seasons.

Goes to show how we need alot more development/luck than just drafting all these guys who we like at the moment.

Really highlights that you need so much to go right to rebuild and not get stuck in the mud/middle.

CBJ just seems cursed. Some of that is their own doing (just one example, Demidov was right there and lots of people were concerned about Lindstrom's back... and, they seem to not be able to develop prospects) but some of it is just raw bad luck, I mean...

So far, Grier has both seemingly done everything right, or right enough, and also gotten lucky, so we're on a good path. But losing Smith as a top end prospect, or not getting anything from our winger pool, or having Dick/Mukh both top out at 2nd pair, or even finishing too well and drafting 5-6 this year, will hinder our rebuild as well.

 

[one2gamble]

Really highlights that you need so much to go right to rebuild and not get stuck in the mud/middle.

CBJ just seems cursed. Some of that is their own doing (just one example, Demidov was right there and lots of people were concerned about Lindstrom's back... and, they seem to not be able to develop prospects) but some of it is just raw bad luck, I mean...

So far, Grier has both seemingly done everything right, or right enough, and also gotten lucky, so we're on a good path. But losing Smith as a top end prospect, or not getting anything from our winger pool, or having Dick/Mukh both top out at 2nd pair, or even finishing too well and drafting 5-6 this year, will hinder our rebuild as well.

I think you hinted at it here, this rebuild is still rebuilding. It can still go sideways.

 

[Hodge]

If we land in the dreaded 5th-7th overall range it looks like we'll at least have the chance to draft a potential 2C between McQueen, Frondell and Desnoyers.

 

[Jargon]

If we land in the dreaded 5th-7th overall range it looks like we'll at least have the chance to draft a potential 2C between McQueen, Frondell and Desnoyers.

I also think we could nab a player that potentially can either be trade bait himself or make someone else tradeable to get us that top line Dman.

 

[Grinner]

If we land in the dreaded 5th-7th overall range it looks like we'll at least have the chance to draft a potential 2C between McQueen, Frondell and Desnoyers.

How about Jackson Smith?

 

[coooldude]

How about Jackson Smith?

If he keeps rising, this is the direction I'd go. Or Mrtka or like, Limatov if they have a strong 2025.

I guess if you go for Desnoyers you're possibly drafting a solid 3C. I just don't know enough about him. I'm not sold on Frondell yet, and McQueen has Lindstrom-esque back issues.

 

[mogambomoroo]

What happened to Hensler? He was such a hyped RD prospect and now the hype is gone.

 

[Juxtaposer]

What happened to Hensler? He was such a hyped RD prospect and now the hype is gone.

Hasn't been very good. Looking more like a mid-late teens kind of pick.

I'm starting to worry that we're going to need to win the lottery to get Schaefer.

 

[tiburon12]

If we land in the dreaded 5th-7th overall range it looks like we'll at least have the chance to draft a potential 2C between McQueen, Frondell and Desnoyers.

I think i'd look to trade that pick then for an establish player. Of course this depends on development and who is available to trade for AND if the draft pans out this way as we think, but if we have 6OA it could be valuable to a team in free fall.

I;m not suggesting the players, but a team like the Islanders might salivate at that top-10 first in return for players like Barzal or Dobson.

 

[BaileyMacTavish]

So we picking Schaefer yeah? Can't wait for the draft and it's so far away

 

[BaileyMacTavish]

 

[Crewouse]

Hasn't been very good. Looking more like a mid-late teens kind of pick.

I'm starting to worry that we're going to need to win the lottery to get Schaefer.

Owie my tear ducts

 

[Patty Ice]

What happened to Hensler? He was such a hyped RD prospect and now the hype is gone.

He made the bad decision to go to Wisconsin. Michael Farrell has a great write up on what's going on with him on the Prospects board.

RD Logan Hensler - USNTDP, USHL (2025 Draft)

We all said Wisconsin was a bad choice. He thought it would be different for him than all the others. I hope he’s enjoying his time off the ice because on the ice his draft position will likely pay for the choice he made. Seems like the type of player who will continuously fall. Maybe even out...

forums.hfboards.com

 

[Jargon]

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I suspect Nashville will be much better. I don’t think we’ll out tank Chicago.

Honestly, there are a shocking amount of bad teams and I actually think the Sharks are kinda trending toward being… not as awful as a few of them.

 

[Shark Finn]

Honestly, there are a shocking amount of bad teams and I actually think the Sharks are kinda trending toward being… not as awful as a few of them.

That's kind of, you know, the point of a rebuild. A few, in this case, of course meaning 31.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I suspect Nashville will be much better. I don’t think we’ll out tank Chicago.

Honestly, there are a shocking amount of bad teams and I actually think the Sharks are kinda trending toward being… not as awful as a few of them.

You gotta think that Bedard will start scoring eventually, right?

 

[MackAttack71]

You gotta think that Bedard will start scoring eventually, right?

So will Will and Mack, hopefully.

 

[Juxtaposer]

So will Will and Mack, hopefully.

Not to the same extent. Bedard should be putting up 80 points this year. If Will and Mack combine for 80 points, I'd call that a win.

 

[Friday]

This draft class is starting off very slow. I was hoping the 3-8 guys would get going so I’d be okay with the Sharks picking 6th but meh so far

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

Chicago is the only team I can conceivably see us finishing ahead of at this point.

 

[Jargon]

Not to the same extent. Bedard should be putting up 80 points this year. If Will and Mack combine for 80 points, I'd call that a win.

You'd think...? That lineup is pretty rough.

Chicago is the only team I can conceivably see us finishing ahead of at this point.

The Ducks are somehow still pretty bad (rebuild year... #... what, 8?) Pittsburgh seems to be having a Sharks-level collapse. I don't think we'll beat those guys in points, but I think there's like an outside chance the Sharks finish like 4-6th worst.

Either way, I'm kind of thrilled to cheer for wins and to have a WAY more fun team with way more hope while simultaneously knowing that we'll still likely get a top 5 prospect this year.

...boy I want Schaefer.

 

[weastern bias]

Chicago is the only team I can conceivably see us finishing ahead of at this point.

Montreal is a sneaky candidate, they might actually have a worse D core than us right now, they're shockingly bad on the backend

 

[vortexy]

Yep I feel the real contenders we will be battling for the 32/31 spot to guarantee a top 4 pick will be Chicago, Montreal (hopefully when Laine returns they will rise), maybe Columbus/Philly. But if Granlund does get traded, I think that would pretty much guarantee we get that top 4 pick at minimum.

 

[weastern bias]

(hopefully when Laine returns they will rise)

Lol

Lmao, even