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2025 NHL Draft: Lose a ton for Porter Martone

Last I checked, we were top or near the top of league at scoring with the goalie pulled. For everyone referring to what our record might be if we won more in OT/SO, you should do the same exercise for if the puck luck went the other way.

We are still a bottom 5 team and probably a bottom 3 team. However if Celebrini and Russian Granny Smith line keep playing as well as they are, we may not be the worst team.
 
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coooldude said:
Last I checked, we were top or near the top of league at scoring with the goalie pulled. For everyone referring to what our record might be if we won more in OT/SO, you should do the same exercise for if the puck luck went the other way.

We are still a bottom 5 team and probably a bottom 3 team. However if Celebrini and Russian Granny Smith line keep playing as well as they are, we may not be the worst team.
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What we have going for us is that even if Anaheim is worse than us, Dostal is excellent and should win them a bunch of games they don't deserve to be in.

I don't think anyone but Chicago ends up worse than us because of that.
 
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We just gotta lose enough to get top four and I'm happy. I want Schaefer the most for positional need, but honestly I feel any of him and Hagens/Martone/Misa could end up having the best career. Although I think Schaefer and Hagens feel the most likely of the batch I would be over the moon with Martone or Misa.

After this draft, we probably need to get the hell out of the basement before any stench of losing culture starts to stick to the kids.
 
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Juxtaposer said:
What we have going for us is that even if Anaheim is worse than us, Dostal is excellent and should win them a bunch of games they don't deserve to be in.

I don't think anyone but Chicago ends up worse than us because of that.
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I’d take that bet. We had a horrific start, but really not bad of late. Why does everyone seem to think the sharks are such bottom feeders? 9-6-3, and pretty much every game very close. Does that really seem like a bottom feeder? I get that the level of competition is not the highest but it’s not like they are getting pure luck and the kids are improving.
 
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sampler said:
I’d take that bet.
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Holy moly, I just paid closer attention when looking at the December schedule. I don't think anyone should be worried about us being close to a wildcard on 1/1.
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That's what we all think, but it's gonna go something like this:

Washington: Win
Tampa: Win
Florida: Loss
Carolina: Loss
St. Louis: Win
Utah: Win
Winnipeg: Loss
Colorado: Win
Edmonton: Loss
Vancouver: Win
Vegas: Loss
Calgary: Win
Philadelphia: Win
 
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Washington: Loss
Tampa: Loss
Florida: Loss
Carolina: Loss
St. Louis: Loss?
Utah: Win?
Winnipeg: Loss
Colorado: Loss
Edmonton: Loss
Vancouver: Loss
Vegas: Loss
Calgary: Win
Philadelphia: Win

Looks good to me sign me up for that top 4 pick! Our wins have mostly been versus teams that are not Stanley cup contenders other than New Jersey and that's also a game where we did not deserve to win at all (Blackwood carry). Don't get me wrong the games we have had have been very fun and exciting but I am expecting the team to have a very rough month which is absolutely FINE, 9 out of the 13 games are against true Stanley cup contenders.

In terms of the standings I am quite confident we will be bottom 3, I want bottom 2 though to guarantee a top 4 pick. I am only mainly concerned about Chicago and Montreal being lower than us when all is said and done.
 
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vortexy said:
Washington: Loss
Tampa: Loss
Florida: Loss
Carolina: Loss
St. Louis: Loss?
Utah: Win?
Winnipeg: Loss
Colorado: Loss
Edmonton: Loss
Vancouver: Loss
Vegas: Loss
Calgary: Win
Philadelphia: Win

Looks good to me sign me up for that top 4 pick! Our wins have mostly been versus teams that are not Stanley cup contenders other than New Jersey and that's also a game where we did not deserve to win at all (Blackwood carry). Don't get me wrong the games we have had have been very fun and exciting but I am expecting the team to have a very rough month which is absolutely FINE, 9 out of the 13 games are against true Stanley cup contenders.

In terms of the standings I am quite confident we will be bottom 3, I want bottom 2 though to guarantee a top 4 pick. I am only mainly concerned about Chicago and Montreal being lower than us when all is said and done.
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You've got us going 3-10 (0.230) for 6 points. It's dire but possible.

If we hold serve on our points% of 0.426 we should get 11 points on the trip (5-7-1). Beat every non-playoff team (UTA, STL, COL) and steal 2 games out of the remaining 10, gets us to 5. That would be a pretty solid performance.

Our last 13 games, we played 5 playoff teams and went 2-3 (0.400) - MIN, NJD, NYR, DAL, LAK. We got outplayed in all of those games but stole 2. So assuming we keep a similar pace to the last 13, we would project to win 4 of 10 vs. playoff teams and go 3-2-3 pace (0.563) against everyone else in 3 games. Which is... 12-13 points. 6-6-1 or 5-5-3 at best. This would be an incredible performance.

My guess is we find a way to 4 wins and 2 OTL's, or 5 wins. 10 points out of possible 26 = 0.385 and pacing between MTL and CHI's current rate. We'll see.
 
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coooldude said:
You've got us going 3-10 (0.230) for 6 points. It's dire but possible.

If we hold serve on our points% of 0.426 we should get 11 points on the trip (5-7-1). Beat every non-playoff team (UTA, STL, COL) and steal 2 games out of the remaining 10, gets us to 5. That would be a pretty solid performance.

Our last 13 games, we played 5 playoff teams and went 2-3 (0.400) - MIN, NJD, NYR, DAL, LAK. We got outplayed in all of those games but stole 2. So assuming we keep a similar pace to the last 13, we would project to win 4 of 10 vs. playoff teams and go 3-2-3 pace (0.563) against everyone else in 3 games. Which is... 12-13 points. 6-6-1 or 5-5-3 at best. This would be an incredible performance.

My guess is we find a way to 4 wins and 2 OTL's, or 5 wins. 10 points out of possible 26 = 0.385 and pacing between MTL and CHI's current rate. We'll see.
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Ya even though I expect we will have a rough month, I don't expect too many blowout losses as this team has shown we can still put up a competitive effort and keep it close even against good teams. We have also seen a "never give up attitude" so I can definitely see a few OT/Shootout games where we can get an unexpected win or loser point loss. I like your estimate of 10 points.
 
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I’d bet on us being bottom 3 with Montreal and Chicago. Nashville is possibly that bad as well, but don’t think Pittsburgh, Philly, Anaheim, Ottawa, STL, or CBJ will be.

Any of the top 4 would be amazing, I also wouldn’t be totally against Desnoyers though I admit there is a gap. Remain on the Schaefer train though, dude looks incredible.
 
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Holy moly, I just paid closer attention when looking at the December schedule. I don't think anyone should be worried about us being close to a wildcard on 1/1.
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OOH OOH Mr Kotter - pick me, pick me!

I think Sharks get at minimum 13 points in DEC. Clean up some defensive zone puck management and win more OZ FO's will do the trick. I'll be back on 1/1...
 
I am legitimately concerned we don’t pick top 4 now. We 100% need at least one more blue chip prospect. Hoping, Grier trades off some guys at the deadline and we give a decent amount of games to Mukh, Cagnoni, Graf, Bystedt, etc to close out the season. Maybe bring in Dickinson, Musty, etc for some games too.
 
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