Miss sounds like a great 2C to slot behind Celebrini which would allow Smith to be a high scoring wing or elite scoring 3C.Misa and Martone just fought Thornton-Getzlaf style in an OHL game, seriously.
2025 NHL Draft: Lose a ton for Porter Martone
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The Nemesis
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At least they did it now and not a couple cashback when they were linemates.Misa and Martone just fought Thornton-Getzlaf style in an OHL game, seriously.
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I think he got the better of Martone in the scrap despite the size disadvantage too!
Misa would be a nice fit with Smith, let them rotate center duties.
Really and truly, any of Martone, Misa, and Schaefer would be great fits with the Sharks' current build, and Hagens may simply be the most talented of them all. No wrong choice.
I will say I think Misa has the lowest ceiling of them all, but he has so many NHL qualities that I feel he'll 100% translate to the NHL, similar to Celebrini (in the sense that he plays an incredibly complete and translatable game, not that he has Celebrini's upside).
What’s nice about Misa being higher floor and lower upside is that the Sharks don’t need him to be a 1C and savior. With Celebrini in that spot Misa would be a better 2C option than Smith.
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If you believe that Smith is strictly a winger, then my question would be why not take Hagens? I believe in Smith as a center long-term (while acknowledging that he's best developed on the wing right now), so Misa's versatility and fit with Smith is appealing. If you don't think Smith will ever be a center, than Hagens is probably the better choice as he's a pure center (Misa has played an awful lot of wing and isn't necessarily a guaranteed NHL center) and has more offensive upside.
Jargon
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I pray for Schaefer because it obviously fills our biggest need and Schaefer / Dickinson / Muhk (or Cagnoni) down the left side sounds insane but I feel like any of these 4 guys would be huge… if Celebrini and Smith don’t 7-goal-a-game us to the playoffs. 
I do think Smith is still a viable C prospect. I have Schaefer #1 but next is Misa due to his complete game and versatility. I would also draft Martone before Hagens. I just think he is too similar to Smith to just drafting above the other 3.
Getting Misa he could be on a line with Smith where they share C duties or you could just have insane depth down the middle and run Celebrini, Miss, Smith, and Bystedt when rolling 4 lines and then shorten the bench moving Smith with Misa.
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Hagens is a complete player too, make no mistake. People just act like he isn't because he's 5'10".
Yeah I just don’t know if I like a top 6 that has Eklund (5’11”), Celebrini and Smith (6’0”), and Hagens (5’10”) being ideal. Its a lot of skill but would need additional size.
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I think closer to draft time and around the combine you're going to start getting hit with the Hagens competitiveness narratives in waves. He's wired a lot like Macklin, he's feisty and is a huge competitor.
The WJCs are going to be fascinating, because personally I'm still flip flopping this core four.
What Martone and Misa are doing in the OHL is borderline historic, both are pacing for 130+ points and still ticking at ~2PPG. These are draft seasons that get you selected #1 in years where there isn't a generational or generational-adjacent talent up for grabs.
People are down on him because of his D-1, but Misa is 6'2, extremely dynamic and also has his own track record of being an exceptional status prospect. He's seventh all time in U17 OHL scoring behind only Gretzky, McDavid, Tavares, Spezza, Kirk Muller, and Linseman.
I don't think there's any right or wrong answer how you rank them and how they perform on the international stage and in their respective playoffs is going to do a lot to rise or sink them on draft boards come spring.
The only one that would shock me at #1 overall as of today is Martone and that's simply just due to the fact that he plays on the wing.
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While I totally get the desire to add size to the top-6, I feel like there's little functional difference between Hagens (who probably ends up listed as 5'11") and Misa (who is generously listed at 6'1") when it comes to physicality. I feel like unless a guy is especially weak (Gabe Perreault) or exceptionally strong (Mack Celebrini) the area between 5'11" and 6'1" is just nominal. The only guy who is going to add size and top line skill to a lineup from this draft is Martone.
Based on the past 3 drafts it’s fairly clear that the Sharks will always take their BPA (Celebrini, Smith) with their earliest pick, if that pick falls into the peak selection area. After that, they draft best combination of size and skill (Bystedt, Musty, Dickinson, Halttunen, Lund). This middle group I expect to get the most patient and nurtured approach from the organization. They need the size to hit on at least a couple. Then it’s lottery tickets with a projectable attribute or the ultimate boom bust guys (Havelid, Sahlin Wallenius, Cagnoni, Pohlkamp, Rimashevskiy, Svoboda, Roberts, Wetsch). This draft I would expect the Sharks are most hoping for Martone or Schaefer, but I think they’ll be happy with any of the top 4.
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For draft people, is there any reason to think Martone is just capitalizing on his size advantage and that he won't translate at a higher level?
I worry about a Slafkovsky situation where he doesn't actually have the skillset or IQ to be an elite NHL player but was a coveted prospect for his physical tools more than anything else, though I haven't watched a second of Martone's game so I maybe this isn't an applicable comparison
I worry about a Slafkovsky situation where he doesn't actually have the skillset or IQ to be an elite NHL player but was a coveted prospect for his physical tools more than anything else, though I haven't watched a second of Martone's game so I maybe this isn't an applicable comparison
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i cant comment on Martone directly, but i think Salf benefited from an exceptionally weak draft year. Take a look at who else was available. Shane Wright was the expected #1 most of the year, but he hasnt lit the league on fire. Cooley looks good but was he #1 good? Cutter and Jiricek have both been dealt.
I think all four of these guys will be long gone by the time the Sharks pick (barring lottery win). I bet they end up 10th overall and get baby eklund.
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There's a risk that he doesn't translate his game. He has shown high IQ in my limited watching but he has also shown some variability and some cave man decision making. He isn't he fastest player. Slaf is one possible outcome, either Tkachuk or Perry are the other comps often thrown out. Each top 3 fwd has criticisms. So far Schaefer seems to be immune.
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IMO no. He doesn't bully people in a way that he won't be able to do in the NHL. I think his hockey IQ and hands are both much better than Slafkovsky.
The main criticism of Martone I have is that his effort level seems to really wax and wane. For example, he was on the PK last night and made a great aggressive read to intercept the puck and try and carry it through the neutral zone. The play didn't result in anything, but he did kill some time with it up against the boards. But when the puck finally came free, he spent some more time tied up with the opponent and by the time he re-entered his defensive zone again, the guy he should have been covering scored.
I also don't think his shot is any better than average, and his skating certainly isn't high end, but the shot is adequate (his game is more centered around playmaking and dirty goals in front of the net) and the skating is powerful for a big man.
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hahaha, My bets are doing well! Over 63 is looking very good. winning the pacific and the western conference is a bit less likely, but at 200-1 and 250-1, I wasnt exactly expecting to win. That said, I wouldnt call those bets dead either. With a bit better shootouts and a few close games going the other way (like Ottawa), the sharks could be .500 or better.
This team is not going to be in the bottom 4 and have a shot at Martone, Misa, hagens, or Schaefer unless one (or more) of walman, grandlund, or celebrini gets hurt. then fogetaboutit.
I would expect to be 8-10th from the bottom in the 80 pt range by seasons end. something like 34-37-11. Eklund, is a very legitimate possibility for that pick in that range, as he is having a great year playing against men in the Allsvenskan. Smallish like his bro, but a fierce worker bee, and a guy that Grier might like to compliment the bigger prospects like Bystedt, Musty, and haltunnen. And the brotherly connection is a legit plus.
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I'm not sure how we're all gonna feel when the team is a borderline playoff dark horse and GMMG sells off at the TDL for one last shot at the lottery
Jargon
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I’m as happy as anyone with how the Sharks have been playing but I think we’re all going to get a little sobered up when they get trounced by a bunch of playoff teams in a row.
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They need to get knocked down just as much as they need the wins
Maybe. I wouldn’t be that surprised to see them compete well with those teams. If they get trounced then it will be a clear message, but they really haven’t been trounced, even by good teams, in the last month+. I think they will be very competitive with those teams, particularly if they can get reasonable goaltending and stay healthy.
Btw, I think Liljegren has also made a huge difference. Walman is a clear number 1. Liljgren looks like a solid top 4. Ceci is placing like a middle pair. I wonder if those guys can take some pressure off Ferraro and keep his minutes more like 18-19/gm which allows him to play his high energy hard working style without getting too tired.
