Red Sox/MLB 2025 Hot Stove - Mets land Juan Soto on 15-year, $765M deal

[DKH]

So sign them both! Easy peazy lemon squeazy right?

Then where they play - who goes

Bregman should be at 3B

Kyle Tucker rumors make no sense and I can’t imagine why he’d be available in any capacity. However, he’d be on the short list of players I would be ok with moving Anthony for if they had to

He’s a UFA after season - I would not trade for without extension

 

[GatorMike]

 

[Mr Cartmenez]

I am really curious what's going to transpire after they have practially been linked to all prominent free agents.

But even bidding a substantial amount on Soto, I am still not convinced that they are all out spending. They may take the prospect route allowing them to save money.

While I am not the biggest fan of Casas, these trade rumors about him, Abreu and prospects like Mayer is a little concerning (they already gave up some depth at the deadline last season). There is no need to trade any of these guys if they were doing their homework via free agency. It's about adding value to the franchise, not going sideways.

I am already prepared to be exceptionally disappointed once again. They won't do nothing, but just enough to not look clownish.

 

[KOZ37]

Then where they play - who goes

Bregman should be at 3B


He’s a UFA after season - I would not trade for without extension

Yeah I was being a bit cheeky there, but they do have many avenues they can take. It will be interesting to see what they decide to do. It should be a fun next week or two.

 

[Smitty93]

I am really curious what's going to transpire after they have practially been linked to all prominent free agents.

But even bidding a substantial amount on Soto, I am still not convinced that they are all out spending. They may take the prospect route allowing them to save money.

While I am not the biggest fan of Casas, these trade rumors about him, Abreu and prospects like Mayer is a little concerning (they already gave up some depth at the deadline last season). There is no need to trade any of these guys if they were doing their homework via free agency. It's about adding value to the franchise, not going sideways.

I am already prepared to be exceptionally disappointed once again. They won't do nothing, but just enough to not look clownish.

I think it's less about the idea that they're willing to spend money and more about who they're willing to consider spending money on. If you're a mid-20s, elite player (Soto, Yamamoto), they're willing to "overpay" in terms of their determined market value (though obviously not enough to actually win). But it's not like they decide we're willing to spend $XM on contracts this offseason.

They have a certain risk aversion with money where they're basically willing to throw money away if it's not going to hurt beyond a couple years. Like they'd rather pay $20M for a $10M player than $30M for a $20M player if the former is only for a couple years and the latter is 5+. The problem, of course, is that you get what you pay for, and you're not really getting better value, you're just protecting yourself from catastrophe, but if they had better pro scouting, that wouldn't be as much of an issue.

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

 

[KOZ37]

Not sure how much of it I believe, but it would be interesting for sure.

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

 

[KillerMillerTime]

How messed up is your life when you'd rather take less money to voluntarily live in Cleveland

Hate to break the news to you but more people live in Ohio than Mass...lol. In addition the rep Cleveland had from 40 years ago doesn't apply anymore. If your young and want a house p, your basically out of luck in Mass, not so in Cleveland area.

Incidentally I grew up and raised my family in Greater Boston but have lived in Metro Detroit since 2013, same applies.

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

 

[Shaun]

none of these rumors are appealing

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

 

[DKH]

Yeah I was being a bit cheeky there, but they do have many avenues they can take. It will be interesting to see what they decide to do. It should be a fun next week or two.

Fried

I think it's less about the idea that they're willing to spend money and more about who they're willing to consider spending money on. If you're a mid-20s, elite player (Soto, Yamamoto), they're willing to "overpay" in terms of their determined market value (though obviously not enough to actually win). But it's not like they decide we're willing to spend $XM on contracts this offseason.

They have a certain risk aversion with money where they're basically willing to throw money away if it's not going to hurt beyond a couple years. Like they'd rather pay $20M for a $10M player than $30M for a $20M player if the former is only for a couple years and the latter is 5+. The problem, of course, is that you get what you pay for, and you're not really getting better value, you're just protecting yourself from catastrophe, but if they had better pro scouting, that wouldn't be as much of an issue.

The pro scouting seems pretty good to me

Whoever made the call on the Houston deal for Vazquez hit a home run

Pivetta was a good deal

The great Hunter Renfroe yielded Hamilton and guy they were able to trade

Whitlock was very good as Rule 5

O’Neill was come back player of the year

Refsnyder solid righty bat

They F’d up not retaining Eovoldi & Wacha

Incredible bad decision called out by several people here - changed history as Texas without Eovoldi probably doesn’t make playoffs let alone win WS

If they are looking at Arenado that spells bad news for Casas

I’m afraid Casas is going to go for a pitcher and not liking this

Arenado not guy he was

Pissah

 

[EverettMike]

"But Triston Casas can literally go f*** himself," said one Boston executive who asked to only identified as "CB."

 

[LouJersey]

Jones is a stud. I gave him to @DKH to draft in his APBA league.

 

[FrankerC]

So far the winter meetings has us out on Fried, Crochet, and apparently Burnes wants a Cali team.

 

[BernieMcAvoy]

Legit horrified about what this organization might do in the next four days.

This is where i'm at now.


Predictably lose the Soto bidding war. I'm all for Fried but seems like he's going to be a Yankee. I'm not against trading Casas if it gets them a legit top of the rotation starter but almost everything else being talked about blows.

Would just add more to the insurmountable evidence that this ownership group don't care anymore and aren't serious about adding proven high end talent. Too many big spenders and the money these players cost is too much for their taste

 

[DKH]

 

[FrankerC]

Only noise those fools are making is the chair screeching on the floor each time they get up to shake someones hand

 

[BradPark22]

Only noise those fools are making is the chair screeching on the floor each time they get up to shake someones hand

I have faith in Theo, not so much Kennedy.

 

[Fenway]

I never knew @Gee Wally was a Yankees fan

 

[Morris Wanchuk]

Arenado + a prospect for Yoshinda 50% retained is a better deal that whatever Bregman will get. No Thanks.

 

[ON3M4N]

pitching, pitching and more pitching

Houck fell off a cliff last season in the 2nd half. Bello was good but not great and Crawford is a back of the rotation guy and who knows what we have in Giolito.

Call me greedy but I want Burnes & Crochet

 

[LouJersey]