Red Sox/MLB 2025 Hot Stove - Mets land Juan Soto on 15-year, $765M deal

[LouJersey]

So Soto signed a bigger deal than Ohtani. Guess Mets fans should expect a 60/60 year with future pitching.

Teams were lining up to pay a pitcher 35+ million last year that never threw a pitch in the MLB, so 51+ million is fine with me. There were five teams ready to pay over 700 million, so why not the Mets? He and Lindor for better or worse should make for some fun baseball.

 

[chizzler]

Nothing will change until this ownership group sells the team. They just aren't capable are keeping up with modern day big market teams

I’m glad they lost. Mets will continue to lose. This type of money sinks teams. Anaheim???

 

[GlenFeatherstone]

Just a small part of me wants to see them strike out on everyone and watch the anarchy commence. Just a small part

 

[KOZ37]

Teoscar adds a power righty bat who’s excelled in Fenway and is a charismatic leader who’d be what they need - I liked O’Neill, great sign by Brez but he’s injury prone and reason why he got Come back player of the year.

My OF: Duran, Rafaela, and Abreu

Refsnyder 4th & Anthony on way.

They don’t really have a desperate need for an OF

They need a stud starter

If Teoscar comes in they likely need to find a way to dump Yoshida. I have a feeling Teoscar gets 3 years at this point. I like the player, but are they better off obtaining Arenado or Bergman just due to position and defensive capabilities?

 

[KrejciMVP]

I’m glad they lost. Mets will continue to lose. This type of money sinks teams. Anaheim???

Didn't they almost make the WS. The red Sox are a sunk franchise

 

[GatorMike]

 

[DKH]

Red Sox were 3rd in runs scored in 2024 even with Casas missing 3 months & Story 5 months

They need one of Fried or Burnes

Crochett is a stud but will cost prospects

I’d certainly hope they take a run at Guerrero

Teoscar would likely move Duran to CF or RF if they move Abreu

Some people think Abreu could blossom as he has advanced hitting skills

The Sox are a bit left handed, righties: story, Rafaela, Wong, Campbell, Grissom, Refsnyder

 

[LouJersey]

Red Sox were 3rd in runs scored in 2024 even with Casas missing 3 months & Story 5 months

They need one of Fried or Burnes

Crochett is a stud but will cost prospects

I’d certainly hope they take a run at Guerrero

Teoscar would likely move Duran to CF or RF if they move Abreu

Some people think Abreu could blossom as he has advanced hitting skills

The Sox are a bit left handed, righties: story, Rafaela, Wong, Campbell, Grissom, Refsnyder

Fried and Manaea. You'll be in the play-offs.

 

[DKH]

Fried and Manaea. You'll be in the play-offs.

I like both but realistically we get one

Eovoldi ???

Fried/Manaea/Burnes
Houck
Eovoldi
Bello
Crawford
Giolito

Flaherty, Fried, and Giolito all HS teammates

Pivetta still out there

I want fun chaos

Rooting for good moves and a fun baseball season

I’m Yankees I’m going wild next 72 hours

 

[CDJ]

Doesn’t surprise me. Would be paying a hefty price for intangibles with this move

 

[Morris Wanchuk]

Doesn’t surprise me. Would be paying a hefty price for intangibles with this move

I mean if you keep Abreau, DH Devers, and keep Casas I guess I am OK with it.

But if this pushes a Casas trade, 100% no.

 

[Shaun]

overpaying for bergman just for it to end up a disaster like story would be fitting

 

[GatorMike]

I'm not necessarily opposed to trading Casas, as long as they get full value.

 

[KOZ37]

I like both but realistically we get one

Eovoldi ???

Fried/Manaea/Burnes
Houck
Eovoldi
Bello
Crawford
Giolito

Flaherty, Fried, and Giolito all HS teammates

Pivetta still out there

I want fun chaos

Rooting for good moves and a fun baseball season

I’m Yankees I’m going wild next 72 hours

I am on board with Fried and trading for a starter. I know many don't want to give up prospects, but I consider it a reallocation of resources. That being said I wouldn't trade any of the top four aside from Mayer. I don't see as big a ceiling with him and he always seems to be dealing with one injury or another. If he gets a big arm like Crochet, or a Seattle arm like Gilbert or Kirby I'm in. I would also explore a Yoshida for Luis Castillo swap. Sprinkle in prospects where needed.

 

[DKH]

I am on board with Fried and trading for a starter. I know many don't want to give up prospects, but I consider it a reallocation of resources. That being said I wouldn't trade any of the top four aside from Mayer. I don't see as big a ceiling with him and he always seems to be dealing with one injury or another. If he gets a big arm like Crochet, or a Seattle arm like Gilbert or Kirby I'm in. I would also explore a Yoshida for Luis Castillo swap. Sprinkle in prospects where needed.

Same

I only deal Casas with Guerrero and extension

 

[yazmybaby]

I predicted about a month ago that Soto would sign with the Mets.
Their owner does not care how much they spend.
Last year their payroll was 348M, tops in the Majors, Mets payroll is already at 231M already after signing Soto. They still need to sign Alonso and other players.
I am so glad we did not sign him.
We can now spend money on Burnes or Fried ( need one), take a flyer on Buehler, starters are done.
Dodgers signed Conforto, paid him 17M.
I cannot see them paying Teoscar 25M to stay, their payroll is already at around 260M and still need to sign Kershaw.
We need a RH bat to replace O'Neill.

 

[KOZ37]

Same

I only deal Casas with Guerrero and extension

This would be appealing, but I do not see Toronto doing this before seeing how the season goes and if they can improve the team and get him signed. Not sure why Guerrero doesn't just bet on himself and hit FA. If he has a good season he will get stupid money at his age.

 

[yazmybaby]

Same

I only deal Casas with Guerrero and extension

I would be all in on a trade for Vladdy, was advocating this at the trade deadline.
Casas and add Abreu and another piece, as long as we sign him to long term extension.
He would hit at least 40 HR's at Fenway.

 

[Mr Cartmenez]

Crochet and Cease aren’t comparable pitchers (other than that they both pitched for the White Sox). Crochet’s market value is much higher, so don’t compare apples to oranges.

Aren't comparable? Value much higher?

Years remaining:
Cease: 2 seasons
Crochet: 2 seasons

Age when traded:
Cease: 28
Crochet: 25

fWAR / bWAR career:
Cease: 12.8 / 11.7
Crochet: 6.1 / 5.9

fWAR / bWAR past 3 years:
Cease: 12.5 / 11.8
Crochet: 6 / 5.6

fWAR / bWAR year prior to trade:
Cease: 3.6 / 2.4
Crochet: 4.7 / 4.1

fWAR / bWAR best season:
Cease: 4.5 / 6.4
Crochet: 4.7 / 4.1

162 game average:
Cease: 3.5 bWAR
Crochet: 3 bWAR

Cease' best season earned him a second place in CY voting. Crochet didn't even make the list.

While Cease had a down year before being traded, Crochet had a "down" second half in his 2024 campaign and is not yet known to be able to handle a full season. His 146 IP of last year is still way less than the previous years of Cease (165, 184, 177).
In what world do these stats make Crochets value "much higher"? That's laughable. Cease with his career stats blows him out of the water in anything but "What have you done for me lately". In a best case scenario, it may get closer due to the age difference. Depends on what teams value more. Cease' proven to be more durable and his best season beats Crochets in bWAR and is about the same in fWAR.

Who knows if someone panics and overpays for Crochet, but I just wanted to point out that they are pretty comparable with each guy having something you could value more or less.

So enjoy your apples and oranges.

 

[DKH]

I would be all in on a trade for Vladdy, was advocating this at the trade deadline.
Casas and add Abreu and another piece, as long as we sign him to long term extension.
He would hit at least 40 HR's at Fenway.

Yup

Dream land

Casas & Abreu for extended Vlady

Sign Teoscar & atleast one SP

Duran
Devers
Guerrero
Teoscar

1-4

Get the Duck Sauce ready

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Have the Sox been relegated to "leverage only" for free agent negotiations?

 

[sarge88]

overpaying for bergman just for it to end up a disaster like story would be fitting

If they have 700 million to spend on one guy -- does overpaying actually exist?

I mean, if Bregman comes here to solidify third, add a productive right hand bat, provide leadership and allow Devers to move to DH (or 1B if they move Casas) does it really matter if he gets 2, 3, 4, or 5 million more per year or that he gets a 5-year deal instead of a 3 or 4?

 

[Horton Hears A Woo]

Crochet and Cease aren’t comparable pitchers (other than that they both pitched for the White Sox). Crochet’s market value is much higher, so don’t compare apples to oranges.

And yet cease is ten times the pitcher crochet is

Red Sox were 3rd in runs scored in 2024 even with Casas missing 3 months & Story 5 months

They need one of Fried or Burnes

Crochett is a stud but will cost prospects

I’d certainly hope they take a run at Guerrero

Teoscar would likely move Duran to CF or RF if they move Abreu

Some people think Abreu could blossom as he has advanced hitting skills

The Sox are a bit left handed, righties: story, Rafaela, Wong, Campbell, Grissom, Refsnyder

Signing one of those pitchers isn’t enough… they need two

 

[bruins cup]

They blew it you can say what you want but Soto is 26 years old Superstar we are a big market team spending like a small market team they said all the stuff over the winter like they did last year we are going to be aggressive and time is now to land the big free agents and have delivered nothing the team is worse now than it was at the end of the season

 

[DKH]

And yet cease is ten times the pitcher crochet is


Signing one of those pitchers isn’t enough… they need two

You are 100 % correct but I’m desperate I want atleast one

The Yankees gotta figure are getting one and Lou tells me Mets are now after Burnes