Prospect Info: 2025 draft discussion

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This is looking like a poor draft after 15, abd that the 2nd round is closer to an average draft’s 3rd round.

Hearing that guys going in the top 5 projecting as 2nd liners does not give me much confidence.
 
This is looking like a poor draft after 15, abd that the 2nd round is closer to an average draft’s 3rd round.

Hearing that guys going in the top 5 projecting as 2nd liners does not give me much confidence.

I remember the scouts quotes on Nolan Patrick when he was ranked #1 and how he was a 2nd liner and it was an indictment on the draft class.

Then you had Makar, Heiskanen, and Petterson become stars. Then some good players on the 10-20 range as well.

Why do we put any stock into this?
 
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This is looking like a poor draft after 15, abd that the 2nd round is closer to an average draft’s 3rd round.

Hearing that guys going in the top 5 projecting as 2nd liners does not give me much confidence.

i really like the top 4 in this years draft. im not buying projected 2nd liners with any of them
 
Yzerman been drafting more overages lately and this draft expect even more of them get drafted by Wings.
Start scout some 19-21 year olds
This is a good speculation topic. What good overagers are out there? I went through my mock draft and checked whom went undrafted.

- Aidan Park, my 4th round pick from last summer. Doing well in USHL, 2nd most points in the league and heading to University of Michigan next season. I'd pick him again this summer, fits in "Draperplan" very well.

- Daniel Shlaine, didn't make my final list but he was in the discussions. 10th in USHL scoring and Minnesota-Duluth is his next address.

- Carson Pilgrim, my 6th round pick from last summer. A bit behind of Mazur's pace but Mazur already had one season played in USHL before he was picked. Heading to North Dakota.

- Lee Parks, double overager like Becher. Parks was nearly my first 7th round pick last summer but i took Shahan instead. Seems like a decent start in UMass-Lowell.

- Kaden Shahan, my 7th round pick from last summer. 6 goals and 6th best goal scorer in the team but also worst +/-. Plays for Univ. of Connecticut.

- Hugo Lejon, i took James Reeder in the 5th round over Lejon. And im actually surprised he wasn't picked, what's wrong with him? High scoring player in the junior leagues and currently 7 goals in 11 games in Allsvenskan.
 
This is a good speculation topic. What good overagers are out there? I went through my mock draft and checked whom went undrafted.

- Aidan Park, my 4th round pick from last summer. Doing well in USHL, 2nd most points in the league and heading to University of Michigan next season. I'd pick him again this summer, fits in "Draperplan" very well.

- Daniel Shlaine, didn't make my final list but he was in the discussions. 10th in USHL scoring and Minnesota-Duluth is his next address.

- Carson Pilgrim, my 6th round pick from last summer. A bit behind of Mazur's pace but Mazur already had one season played in USHL before he was picked. Heading to North Dakota.

- Lee Parks, double overager like Becher. Parks was nearly my first 7th round pick last summer but i took Shahan instead. Seems like a decent start in UMass-Lowell.

- Kaden Shahan, my 7th round pick from last summer. 6 goals and 6th best goal scorer in the team but also worst +/-. Plays for Univ. of Connecticut.

- Hugo Lejon, i took James Reeder in the 5th round over Lejon. And im actually surprised he wasn't picked, what's wrong with him? High scoring player in the junior leagues and currently 7 goals in 11 games in Allsvenskan.
I would take a chance on this kid: Will Felicio - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Also from strictly a stat watching perspective, these 2 look interesting:

 
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If we pick in the 18+ range how about the Chinese big kid ??? I dont know much about him and I'll have to look into it more but I seen him as a late 1st rounder possibility

Turns 18 only in the summer and says hes going to boston university with likely hutson,eiserman there

Its suppose to not be a deep draft so I wouldnt be against it unless someone intriguing drops when our turn comes

 

Read this and it’s hard not to see Brady Martin being very high on the Wings draft list.
I mentioned him earlier in the thread. He screams red wings pick, depending where theyre picking
 
I do Realguds draft at least once a day. I have a hard time picking someone other than Carbonneau first. Maybe Brady Martin if he’s available. I’m stuck on Carter Amico in the second. My next two picks are Arvid Drott and Mace’o Phillips in either order. After that I don’t know the players well enough
 
It looks like a not so realgud USNTDP draft year, but how are we feeling about Jack Murtagh and Cole McKinney? McKenna compared Murtagh to Leonard.
 
If we pick in the 18+ range how about the Chinese big kid ??? I dont know much about him and I'll have to look into it more but I seen him as a late 1st rounder possibility

Turns 18 only in the summer and says hes going to boston university with likely hutson,eiserman there

Its suppose to not be a deep draft so I wouldnt be against it unless someone intriguing drops when our turn comes

He’s a polarizing prospect with the “positive” side of that pole being size and skating. Those who have watched him a lot are mostly in the “negative” camp because he exhibits poor skill and low hockey IQ. I have little interest in a prospect when the argument is “big man skate well.” Granted he’s new to the OHL, so maybe he’ll have a wild stretch of improvement, but it’s not looking good so far. I’d definitely rather swing for the fences with a skilled guy than become mesmerized by size and athleticism.
 
He’s a polarizing prospect with the “positive” side of that pole being size and skating. Those who have watched him a lot are mostly in the “negative” camp because he exhibits poor skill and low hockey IQ. I have little interest in a prospect when the argument is “big man skate well.” Granted he’s new to the OHL, so maybe he’ll have a wild stretch of improvement, but it’s not looking good so far. I’d definitely rather swing for the fences with a skilled guy than become mesmerized by size and athleticism.
Fair enough, not going to pretend to know much about him but if were picking around 20ish I'd rather just take a chance and take a swing

Our scouts etc... would know more and I should probably check him out a few times since hes in the ohl.

We might have to draft a few dmen this year cause if wallinder is out of options we'll basically cleveland buium and anton Johansson left. Obviously depends when we draft and who's there
 
Fair enough, not going to pretend to know much about him but if were picking around 20ish I'd rather just take a chance and take a swing

Our scouts etc... would know more and I should probably check him out a few times since hes in the ohl.

We might have to draft a few dmen this year cause if wallinder is out of options we'll basically cleveland buium and anton Johansson left. Obviously depends when we draft and who's there
Wallinder has one more year on ELC after this one, Tuo and Viro are not waiver exempt starting next season.

The wings will draft a couple D this draft regardless, keep the cupboard as full as you can, while you can.
 
Wallinder has one more year on ELC after this one, Tuo and Viro are not waiver exempt starting next season.

The wings will draft a couple D this draft regardless, keep the cupboard as full as you can, while you can.
Isnt wallinder out of waiver options next season??? I have np keeping tuomisto around for 15-20 games as the 6-8th dman and see if theres anything there

Viro Is gone as far as I'm concerned maybe g.r player but I dont know if he'll have a shot here

Well I think the last few years we havent drafted many dmen so ya we have to start filling up younger dmen to hopefully make a run here in 3-4 yrs
 
Isnt wallinder out of waiver options next season??? I have np keeping tuomisto around for 15-20 games as the 6-8th dman and see if theres anything there

Viro Is gone as far as I'm concerned maybe g.r player but I dont know if he'll have a shot here

Well I think the last few years we havent drafted many dmen so ya we have to start filling up younger dmen to hopefully make a run here in 3-4 yrs

Here is the current draftees not yet signed...and their ages, the wings typically draft a mix of players, usually the best available at the time and out of the 7 spots, I would guess that a 4-2-1 ratio of F-D-G is loosely followed. The have used more higher picks for D since SY arrived, but even out of the 1st rounders he took

Raymond, Kasper, Danielson and MBN (4F)

Mo, Ed and ASP (3D)

Cossa (1G)

So a 4-3-1 ration, as he had some extra picks

The wings have basically graduated 3 defensemen and will likely have a 4th and maybe a 5th by the end of next season, all under 25.

A good steady stream of bottom 3 D-Men coming along is a good thing for cost control


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Here is the current draftees not yet signed...and their ages, the wings typically draft a mix of players, usually the best available at the time and out of the 7 spots, I would guess that a 4-2-1 ratio of F-D-G is loosely followed. The have used more higher picks for D since SY arrived, but even out of the 1st rounders he took

Raymond, Kasper, Danielson and MBN (4F)

Mo, Ed and ASP (3D)

Cossa (1G)

So a 4-3-1 ration, as he had some extra picks

The wings have basically graduated 3 defensemen and will likely have a 4th and maybe a 5th by the end of next season, all under 25.

A good steady stream of bottom 3 D-Men coming along is a good thing for cost control


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Is wallinder out of waivers next season though? I suspect he will be since he'll be 23

I was talking about the d prospect pool we have coming being limited. Pellikka we know will get a shot soon + wallinder

When I look after that I'd say its buium,cleveland and anton Johansson and not much else which is why I said I'd suspect we draft more.

Granted we drafted whipple and a few guys im not too familiar with but wouldnt expect much. Viro I suspect will move on tuomisto might get a shot next season as the 6-8th guy

Not worried about the forward or goaltending prospect pool and I love our future possible top 4 in edvinsson seider pellikka johansson but I'd say yzerman will try to replenish the d pool

I'd try and grab jiri Fischer's kid in saint Louis, 19 and by the time hed be ready would be 3-4 years. Maybe convince them to take wallinder

Anyways not too worried about the teams draft pool just noticed the d core is starting to thin out
 
Here is the current draftees not yet signed...and their ages, the wings typically draft a mix of players, usually the best available at the time and out of the 7 spots, I would guess that a 4-2-1 ratio of F-D-G is loosely followed. The have used more higher picks for D since SY arrived, but even out of the 1st rounders he took

Raymond, Kasper, Danielson and MBN (4F)

Mo, Ed and ASP (3D)

Cossa (1G)

So a 4-3-1 ration, as he had some extra picks

The wings have basically graduated 3 defensemen and will likely have a 4th and maybe a 5th by the end of next season, all under 25.

A good steady stream of bottom 3 D-Men coming along is a good thing for cost control


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I hope we sign Stange he's had a really nice season since transferring to Nebraska. Like to see what he brings to a pro game.
 

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